View Full Version : @ Bunkerrat - The goodies have arrived

05-31-2007, 10:43 AM


05-31-2007, 11:58 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif Droooolllllll!!!!!

05-31-2007, 12:21 PM
Yeah that's a few bucks right there.
Quite the atomic looking video cards, two? I take your setting up a raid.

05-31-2007, 12:24 PM
awsome ....looks like a weekend build huh?...crossfire should be simple mine went fine the mobo had no problems with it at all your going to like the mobo it's got a lot of room overclocking options ...and a new enermax psu too ..cool 800 watt? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifhave to post a pic when it's done ...i should too ...let me know how it goes man..

05-31-2007, 12:34 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif Hardware

05-31-2007, 02:18 PM
@ Messervy:

New forum rules you have to respond to - I need your home address, where you keep your PC kit and what times you won't be at home please ASAP.

Oh, and do you have any vicious dogs? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Great looking kit there! FOUR hard drives? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

What case it all that lovely stuff going into?

05-31-2007, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by bunkerratt:
awsome ....looks like a weekend build huh?...crossfire should be simple mine went fine the mobo had no problems with it at all your going to like the mobo it's got a lot of room overclocking options ...and a new enermax psu too ..cool 800 watt? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifhave to post a pic when it's done ...i should too ...let me know how it goes man..

BTW it`s 1000 watts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

05-31-2007, 02:55 PM
@ RJ

I`m having airconditioning installed in a flat tommorow and then I`m not leaving the house till winter....sorry

The case is this:

Disks are Western Digitals 2 x 500 GB and 2 x Raptors 150 MB.

No dogs anymore, sadly.
A year ago I lost my best friend ever :

05-31-2007, 04:48 PM
did you get the vapochill unit?

05-31-2007, 08:29 PM
Whats the big deal? there just Graphics cards.

06-01-2007, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by bunkerratt:
did you get the vapochill unit?

Not yet!

I`m afraid I`ll have to ditch the current case because there is hardly any space left.
I don`t think I`ll be able to bring the tube over those monster cards.
Otherwise it will be quite crowded place as well.
Today I checked and between the end of the cards and conectors for the disks there is perhaps a trace of a milimeter of space.

06-01-2007, 07:22 AM
right that's why i went with the monster case here...room to work in ...i had the same problem before ..no roon between the card ends and the harddrives lot's of space now ...look into the big typhoon cpu cooler by thermaktake..."before" you assemble the system...it has to mount from the back of the mobo...be cool to see what it'll do on 3dmark 06 ..iv'e got this tweaked now and an avarage 3dmark score is about 6030

06-01-2007, 07:32 AM
What CPU and RAMs are you having?

06-01-2007, 07:39 AM
intel p-4 775 3.4ht em64t oc'd to 3.75 thermaltake big typhoon cpu cooler
2gb ocz crossfire edition pc2 6400 800mhz memory

06-01-2007, 07:52 AM
Aha...this will be interesting! 2.66 vs 3.75 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 and 4GB Corsair 8500 C5.

I wonder how far the Quad will go (with or without Vapochill).

06-02-2007, 11:25 AM
this is what it looks like ...

06-02-2007, 11:42 AM
You could use a larger screen though.... http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/munching_out.gif

Oh, and like your map on the wall too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-02-2007, 12:12 PM
20.5 widescreen is fine with me ..

06-02-2007, 12:24 PM
@BR = That is THE biggest case I have ever seen! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Do you still have your Screenshot Comp certificates on your wall?

@ Messervy = You'll have to post a photo of your set up when it's ready too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

*RJ can see a new thread coming...*

06-02-2007, 12:45 PM
@rj yes i do i'll get two or 3 more pics of the wall stuff ..lol..and yeah...the case is huge...it makes everything else seem small but it has lot's of room ...

06-02-2007, 01:41 PM
That case is dinky! My case is almost as tall as my (large) desk. Plus I have 4 internal HDD's & 2 external! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif I have far too much animae and music and games!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I need a new CPU though... say that turns up next Monday along with my new monitor! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

2 monitors....

One playing SH3, one playing Hitman Blood Money

The possibilities.... on games like C & C 3!!
One building my base, one watching the supposidly secret advancing enemy troops! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

I am also quadroupling my RAM at the same time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

When I do an upgrade, I do an upgrade!

Now what else can I put on my mmm I think it is 4 terrabytes of HDD space? I have all of Madlax, Noir, Neon Genesis Evangelian, Ghost in the Shell ~ to name but 4 of the close to 50 series I have... I also got Space Above & Beyond somewhere. I think that is on DVD though.... really should watch that again sometime.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

My computer may LOOK old, but that is just cos I can't be arsed buying new perpherials! (mouse, keyboard, monitor, case etc)


I lie! I have a 286 laptop in my loft! all 8mb of ram and 256 mb of hard drive http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Still runs though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I also got a 486 and a P166 (I think), mind you, I blew up the hard drive on that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I miss playing Great Naval Battles and sinking the Royal Navy surface fleet. I one sailed the Bismarck, Turpitz, Scharnhorst and Genisnou (sp) up the Irish sea looking for a target. I found and sunk the Hood, Repulse & Revenge! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

I'll post a pic if I remember, after I have had my new windows installed and had a re-arrangement of my house. Somebody remind me about this next month. It should all be done by then! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I digress anywho. Anybody know where I can get a dual chipset motherboard that'll support two Athlon 64 X2 6GHx processors and let's say 4 gigs of RAM? I'll also be wanting to plug in my current high end graphics & sound cards that my current PC struggles to run! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

<--- Has even better games he wants to capatalise on the graphics of!

hehe I have money to burn, but I should really spend it on that new bathroom I need at home not PC's!!

06-02-2007, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by bunkerratt:
20.5 widescreen is fine with me .. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/bigeyes2.gif

Good Lord! It's the cabinet! It's gigantic!!! http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/bowdown.gif

I rest my case then! http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z15/subject_rod/smilies/rotfl.gif

Nice gear! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-02-2007, 03:49 PM
Does NORAD know you've got this, they might just want it......
I'm toying with upgrading but how much did this cost if you dont mind me asking.
Presently running an AMD athlon XP3000+, 2.17 Gig, 1 gig ram and an NVidea 6600.

06-02-2007, 04:33 PM
MY GOD !! My wife would Bobitize me if I spent that much cash for my computer toys ! Tell me the secret of how you gents get away with it ! PLEASE !!!!! Then again... I bought the damn boat over the winter and told her how much fun the " Family " was going to have on it. Maybe... just maybe if I buy one part at a time...hmmmm... That is one big time setup...bravo to you ! But the screen does look a tad small next to that monster case.

06-02-2007, 07:25 PM

i guess a good ballpark figure would be in u.s dollars total in parts and operating system..about $2500.00

intel p-4 775 3.4ht em64t oc'd thermaltake big typhoon cpu cooler
asus p5w dh deluxe motherboard
twin 100 gb hdd's raid 0 sata
ati x1950pro 256pcie x2 crossfired
creative x-fi extreame music soundcard
enermax 600 watt psu
dvd r=rw dldf x2
11 in 1 usb card reader
2gb ocz crossfire edition pc2 6400 800mhz memory
cooler master musketeer 2
logitec 5.1 surround speakers
saitek eclipse keyboard
logitec tracman rollerball mouse cordless
xp pro sp2
20inch viewsonic vx2035wm
thermaltake armor va8000bws black steel case
lcd ambeient temperature readout x2
turtle beach earforce hpa 5.1 headset

06-03-2007, 06:56 AM
Right....I`ve changed my mind.
Tomorow I`ll go on a hunt for Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition Link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133037).

It`s simply futile to hope I`ll cram everything, including the Vapochill hose inside my case.

$2500 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
Yeah it`s cheap over the pond.

My bill so far (PSU,CPU,Mobo,OS,2xGPU,4XHD) is: €3.342.

Add to that another €1800 (RAM = €615, Vapochill = around €600 Case=??? and the new 22" LCD which I bought two weeks ago for €399).

Err.....over $7000. http://foolstown.com/sm/vis.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/mog.gif

06-03-2007, 07:13 AM
OK, ......Since I have no problem demonstrating that I'm still living in the past (hardware wise); .....I'll ask what might seem like a basic question:

Can someone explain to me (in words of two syllables or less) how TWO graphics cards are implemented in a single monitor system, and what the advantages are???

(....or have I misunderstood the whole thing, and people are not using two cards??)


06-03-2007, 07:19 AM
I hope this helps: Demo (http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/modedemo.html)

06-03-2007, 07:32 AM
Crossfire 2900XTs?

*feels those pangs of envy*

Perhaps one day for me. My X1900XT is still holding on, so I can't justify it (PC gaming is not for those with small pockets, heh).

06-03-2007, 07:40 AM

Thanks! .....That demo cleared things up!

What do you look for in the motherboard specs to know if it's "Crossfire Capable"?? (I am assuming that ATI is not the only source for motherboards for this application.)


06-03-2007, 07:46 AM
No, no....It`s very common nowadays.
Ati calls it Crossfire while the Nvidia chaps call their version SLI.

Basicaly every motherboard manufacturer is sure to make you notice it supports either Crossfire or SLI.
Basicaly you need two PCI-express x 16 slots.

06-03-2007, 07:51 AM
the mothermoard that we are both using is crossfire certified by ati and made by asus ..i belive dfi makes a few crossfire mobo's as well as i'm shure do others i how ever am loyal to asus for quality you will also need a psu thats crossfire ready too ..as you can see ..the new ati cards are bridged internaly ..with the 2 carmel colored bridges ..no need for the external dongle ..also you need to check the memory and see if it's going to run with crossfire .......in the end..all i can say is ..ROCK SOLID ..BUILD IT TWEEK IT KNOW IT ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-03-2007, 07:54 AM
messervy..your going to like the case man http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-03-2007, 08:00 AM
i how ever am loyal to asus for quality

Yup! ....I always buy ASUS!

I have built numerous "White Box Specials", but I have never been involved with building such a "Graphics Oriented" specialty system.

Very interesting!

06-03-2007, 08:19 AM
Yup! ....I always buy ASUS!

As have I. Had 3 now and I consider them to be the best http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-03-2007, 09:10 AM
in a motherboard the thing that is first is the chipset on the board and what cpu you want to run ...not all boards are good for gaming ..so do the research ...see what parts that you have now that can be used in the new build disk drives floppy psu gpu or cpu coolers ...case...and so on ..next would be a sata harddrive ..or pairs of ...i run twin 100gb's in raid 0 ...now that we have all the stuff .comes the case ...yes fellas in this instance..size does indeed matter...heat builds up fast running twin graphics and overclocking both and the cpu as wellso we get a bigger cpu cooler.......ok see where this goes?...i call it 1/4 mile drag racing of computers ...it's like crack but made of pc parts and performance.....

06-03-2007, 09:51 AM
next would be a sata harddrive

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but I've given in BR and got myself a Seagate SATA HD, 320gb, 16mb buffer and 8.5ms seektime. I've got Norton Ghost too but frankly I'm too scared to do the transfer myself - it's bound to go wrong - you know RJ and PC's....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

06-03-2007, 11:11 AM
lol..not a hijack man...cool on the hdd ..you see a better performing system right off ..just be carfull with the sata connector to the motherboard they are not as rugged as a ide connector..br forewarns rj of a jamboproof weakspot! br's old mobo has 7 sata connectors..an odd number 7 huh?..well it had 8 ..oops...so after a look at the recipets for just parts alone here it's $2725.00 ....so i'll call it $3000.00 with builders and install /tweek /setup .....plus tax!!!

06-03-2007, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Realjambo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yup! ....I always buy ASUS!

As have I. Had 3 now and I consider them to be the best http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same here. I'm extremely happy with my Asus A8R32-MVP....though I wish I could actually run 2 2900XTs crossfire. Imagine running FSX on full details with no lag....beautiful.

06-03-2007, 03:09 PM
$2500!........ Thats about 1800 English.......
I cant be @rsed to check but I'm betting that kit over here would go at least 2500 or about $3500........ Probably more.
I'd never get that past the wife either, and I haven't got a boat.

06-04-2007, 10:16 PM
Top system mate, cool, im hoping to build me a new sytem soon, its the way ahead, thanks for the phots, gives me a few ideas, cheers.

06-06-2007, 02:36 AM
@ Bunkerrat
I have ordered a Vapochill unit. The closest seller is in Germany.
All I have to do now is wait for a week or two then WE BUILD! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

06-06-2007, 08:49 AM
cool..bet your waiting to get on with it ....waiting for the pics..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by bunkerratt:
be cool to see what it'll do on 3dmark 06 ..iv'e got this tweaked now and an avarage 3dmark score is about 6030

I decided for a little trial build to see if things are working.
It's 3 AM here and I don't have the energy to fiddle with Photobucket.

I must say I'm having serious problems with Silicon Image Raid controler. (been to Asus forum just to find out I'm not the only one - the longest thread there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif).
I have it bookmarked and I'll dive into it in a few days.

ICH7 Raid 0 was no problem.
There are issues with Corsair 8500. I got it up to 1066 but the latency is still crappy. Nowhere near advertised 5-5-5-15.
Yesterday I had put the sticks into my old rig and the timmings were 3-4-4-12.
I'll start addressing this when everything is finished.

Now for the good part.

I've only installed ONE (1) HD 2900 XT and ran 3D Mark 06.

The Score........OVER 9000.

......ok here's one picture:

During early stage of temporary connection

06-08-2007, 08:28 PM
awsome scores.....sweet...probs with the controler huh?..bummer..i just retuned this one and now run an avarage of 6103 ...wait untill tyou get both gpu's in crossfire ...keep the progress reports comming man..cool.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-09-2007, 03:11 AM
For breakfast or better instead of having one I installed the new catalist drivers and the improvement is significant.

Still only one GPU. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

06-09-2007, 07:51 AM
that looks real good... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

06-13-2007, 04:27 PM
Here is an update.

Not much has happened.

I'm still waiting for Thermaltake Armor (those guys are incompetent).

Vapochill unit is on the way (so they say - but they are Germans so I guess that holds water).

I did some tinkering and connected the second HD 2900 XT and started OC'ing.

Here's a default score:

And comparison chart: (Started as 56586st fastest)


Then I worked my way up on X10 multiplier. I had to switch from 3:5 to 2:3 somewhere in between thus enabling me to change latency from 5-5-5-15 to 4-4-4-12.
(although advertised this board doesn't boot at 533/1066).

I'm still having everything set on the table with stock cooling, so I played safe and stopped at 3.2 GHz and 1281 FSB.

3D Mark score:

Comparison chart: ( reached 3059th fastest score)

Here are some benchmarks from Sandra:

Note: This one is a bit odd.

Raid O on ICH7 works fine but I'm having hell of a time getting E_Z Raid to work

I haven't touched GPU's for overclocking yet and they are 1/3 underclocked

ATI Overdrive sucks in Vista. You can't unlock processor, only memory.

Anyway this is going to be a real killer system once I got it running as it should.

06-13-2007, 05:55 PM
all i can say is awsome man....killer scores.....are you using the 7.5 drivers or 7.4 ..hell with scores like that i guess it doesn't really matter does it ?lmao....sweet system ..keep me up to speed on the progress ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif....i didn't mess around with the e z raid ...i made the raid drivers floppy from the motherboard disk ..then went about installing the o s i still like raid 0 also i tried out the new 7.5 cat drivers ...overdrive works but the fps in sh4 dropped ...belive that?..and the dam green lines around the frame in sh4 are back with af turned..so if i'm in sh4 i use the 7.4 drivers if i'm running other apps i use the 7.5 drivers so i can engage the overdrive if i want to http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

06-13-2007, 09:22 PM
BEFORE YOU INSTALL THE MOTHERBOARD IN THE THERMAL TAKE CASE YOU NEED TO INSTALL THE 4 TRANSPARENT MYLAR STRIPS TO THE CASE ...or you could short out the motherboard it's in the manual ...on the last pages ...it shows the locations of the mylar squares it's also on the thermaltake site ..it took me awhile to find it ..but it's there ..so is the manual in pdf format if you need more info on that let me know...but you must install the mylar be for you install the motherboard...i allmost forgot to tell you about this... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

06-14-2007, 02:32 AM
I had set up the Raid 0 (SATA 1, SATA 3) the same way but I still have two WD 500s to connect. One SATA is occupied with Optical drive (SATA 4).
So, if I tranfere Optical to JMicron I can use Sata 4 and E_Z Raid 2. This works but it is a devider Raid (it splits one Intel Raid port and fools it into thinking it is one drive combined with E_Z port.

I have read lots of stuff on forums and people with two working Raids are few and far between.

It says on ATI site that proc Overdrive for HD 2900 XT is not yet supported.

As for mylar strips BIG THANKS!

06-14-2007, 11:03 AM
The case has arrived.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Just look at the size of that box http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


Now where is that damn Vapochill unit. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

06-14-2007, 11:25 AM
thats the same thing i said....holy****.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

06-14-2007, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by bunkerratt:
20.5 widescreen is fine with me ..

Good Lord! It's the cabinet! It's gigantic!!!

Only 20.5" widescreen?

Just got my new monitor and boy is it big! It stretches 1/3 the way across my desk! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I just measured the desk at 1750mm wide, with a right angle on the end 900mm from the user side of the desk!!

OMG! My monitor stretches about 1150mm across my desk!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

OK I lie, 2 with different desktops, but still run by the same computer, mouse, keyboard etc http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif 17.5" Llyama and a 22.5" widescreen Llyama side by side! 40" of monitor (and I am getting a third shortly ~ I wonder if I can rig all 3 up to one PC....?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif )

I get lost moving my mouse about! 1450 pixels high by about 3000 wide! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

pmsl sorry but I now need to try out my new monitor with part of my anime collection! I got to shut up lol!! I'm gonna try SHIII out on it tomorrow after shoppin! It promises to be loads of fun!!

06-14-2007, 03:55 PM
Pictures, young Doenitz, pictures!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

06-15-2007, 01:19 AM
I am re-decorating Messervy (and still re-building a computer!) lol

When I have got my new windows put in, then I will be willing to post pictures lol. My computers will ACTUALLY be acessable - well kinda lol!

Say anybody wany a mmm 40GB HDD I think. I kinda fried it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif I can't even get windows installiation to detect it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

BTW @ Messervy ~ My camera batteries are also dead I just found out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

07-13-2007, 10:53 AM

Vapochill is on the way. http://foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif

Will be here on Monday.

This week I managed to get waterblocks for my HD2900's.
Here is how they look:
On Monday I start building. Hopefully I didn't forget something since I'll flip out completly if I find I'm missing something as trivial as thermal compound in the middle of the nigh.

07-13-2007, 11:00 AM
cool they look good too i ...and it's not funny about the thermal paste ...i did that once ...a few thousand dollars worth of parts in the boxes and i ahh forgot a 10 dollar tube of paste...looks like your ready to get it done keep the updates comming man..should look awsome when it's done ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif