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Grue_
01-16-2006, 01:39 PM
http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...1dbcf4f6b443e171e718 (http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4112&sid=a0a9de1767a81dbcf4f6b443e171e718)

Found this over at the WoV forum. The most authentic 109 flying today and it's an Emil that flew in the BoB!

There's a nice display video floating around the web called bf109e.wmv if you can find it.

Here is the owners web site:

http://www.therussellgroupairshow.com/index.php?page=messerschmitt_109

jeroen_R90S
01-16-2006, 02:04 PM
Cool! Nice find! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

voyager_663rd
01-16-2006, 02:49 PM
I guess this is old news (to me anyways). Posted about it a long time ago. Their air show was this past summer.

Here's the 109 that ran. They also had a spit and a hurry (spit in the background right). The 109 was a brute, the spit like a cadillac (sound-wise).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/voyager_663rd/2me109.jpg

I've got a movie of the 109/spit/hurry start up and a second of a flypast. Awesome power. If you have a big mailbox, I can post it to you (big file).

Lubcke
01-16-2006, 03:08 PM
would you please send it to me.
my e-mail: vonlubcke@yahoo.ca

tomtheyak
01-16-2006, 03:09 PM
Fantastic! Thanks Grue!

Hey, if you want a skin of this airplane head over to VWA (click my sig).

my pal Bear_Boradins done a great version in an Ed russel skin pack.

Pirschjaeger
01-16-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by voyager_663rd:
I've got a movie of the 109/spit/hurry start up and a second of a flypast. Awesome power. If you have a big mailbox, I can post it to you (big file).

bf109g2@gmail.com or fw190a4@gmail.com http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I´d love to see it.

Fritz

VW-IceFire
01-16-2006, 04:27 PM
I was there at that airshow in Niagara Falls. Fantastic display! The 109E was a pure joy to watch and hear flying over the airfield.

JG52_Helgstrand
01-16-2006, 04:49 PM
Someone needs to send this to Oleg...

"The aircraft is very tail heavy, so turning it on the ground is impossible without forward stick and some power."

"Due to the tail-heaviness of the 109, you can use the brakes quite hard with no worries about the tail coming up."

Taylortony
01-16-2006, 05:20 PM
You know that John Romain has a bit of an unofficial nickname........... they call him "The Shetland Pilot" on behalf of his height.

Suprised they didn't know on that thread that the Oleo pressure is different in both legs, the Spit is the same, indeed so it the tyre pressures to compensate for the torque effect when on the ground....

p1ngu666
01-16-2006, 05:49 PM
chuck the file on some free hosting, filefront seems pretty good to me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

voyager_663rd
01-16-2006, 09:07 PM
I went to filefront, can't find a way to upload a file for hosting.

Will post a few more pics when photobucket website comes back online.

The startup sequence for the 3 birds is about 30 mb. Can your mailbox hold something that big? I"ll have to split the file into 3 10mb parts to be able to send it though.

Lemme know.

p1ngu666
01-16-2006, 11:06 PM
http://freespace.filefront.com/1

u haveto sign up, but its a 2min job, and the hosting is better than any other free ones ive stumbled across

Pirschjaeger
01-17-2006, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by JG52_Helgstrand:
Someone needs to send this to Oleg...

"The aircraft is very tail heavy, so turning it on the ground is impossible without forward stick and some power."

His tailwheel was lookt, I have proofs. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Originally posted by JG52_Helgstrand:
"Due to the tail-heaviness of the 109, you can use the brakes quite hard with no worries about the tail coming up."

Aluminium gets liter with time, be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fritz

LStarosta
01-17-2006, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:

Aluminium gets liter with time, be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fritz

Sounds like you've had a liter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Petey78
01-17-2006, 07:01 AM
What surprised me was that John Romain describes a stable approach at 130kmh, forgive me if I'm wrong (I haven't flown the Emil much on this sim) but I can't think of any Bf109 variant that will flare safely after an approach at 130kmh, normally the elevator is so mushy at that speed (if the wing hasn't already dropped) that the aircraft just pancakes in. Maybe it's the absence of armour, weaponry, ammunition and full fuel tanks enjoyed by modern warbird pilots that make the aircraft that bit more polite to fly.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Pirschjaeger
01-17-2006, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:

Aluminium gets liter with time, be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fritz

Sounds like you've had a liter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, 3 before the first. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Fritz

Arms1
01-17-2006, 09:15 AM
more pics here

http://photobucket.com/albums/y294/simpilot1/

Unknown-Pilot
01-17-2006, 10:19 AM
Niagara Falls! Slowly I turned ... step by step ... inch by inch ...



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Pirschjaeger
01-17-2006, 11:34 AM
Arms1, those pics are nice. That firetruck in the background is a cold reminder of the frequencies of accidents at airshows.

Fritz

voyager_663rd
01-17-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
http://freespace.filefront.com/1

u haveto sign up, but its a 2min job, and the hosting is better than any other free ones ive stumbled across

Uploading now. The sign-in changed my name (I typed in the underscore but when it processed, it had been deleted). Fixed now. There will be 2 files.

The plane pics I would have shown here are basically the same as already done in the link 2-3 posts b4 this one. Got a few of some Lewis guns I'll post here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/voyager_663rd/211917vickers303.jpg

Some old motorcycles if someone voices an interest as well.

Here's the startup sequence for the three:

http://files.filefront.com/1Warbird_Start/;4628876;;/fileinfo.html

and the takeoff:


http://files.filefront.com/2Warbird_Takeoff/;4628884;;/fileinfo.html

Grue_
01-17-2006, 12:41 PM
Thanks Pingu, I've uploaded a couple of videos here:

http://files.filefront.com/bf109ewmv/;4628893;;/fileinfo.html

And here:

http://files.filefront.com/109E_4_Engine_Warm_upwmv/;4628931;;/fileinfo.html

voyager_663rd
01-17-2006, 01:35 PM
NIce to have a place to upload for peeps to dl from but man, the download takes forever and a day to get started.

JG52Karaya-X
01-17-2006, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by JG52_Helgstrand:
Someone needs to send this to Oleg...

"The aircraft is very tail heavy, so turning it on the ground is impossible without forward stick and some power."

"Due to the tail-heaviness of the 109, you can use the brakes quite hard with no worries about the tail coming up."

That's what I actually noticed in IL2 as being correctly modelled mate... you can apply a lot of brake without the 109 nosing over! (relative to other planes such as the Spit which was nose heavy)