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bladencrowd
06-15-2009, 05:32 PM
Abu'l Nuquod for me. Not only did he poison people, he ordered his guards to shoot the remaining survivors http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif.

Skaevola
06-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Sibrand. The other targets were just sort of subtlely evil (and sometimes not even that, after you find out what their real intentions were). But Sibrand was an actual paranoid psycho who killed a priest for no other reason than because he was utterly delusional. He was seriously, seriously insane.

UbersoftLol
06-15-2009, 06:02 PM
Sibrand, Because he made me drown trying to kill him http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
And drown as in EXCATLY 25 TIMES http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif!!!1

EDIT: WTF lol we both voted for sigbrand, but poll results were 2 votes on William de Montferrat and none on Sigbrand

bladencrowd
06-15-2009, 06:26 PM
The percents are over not under. Look at Tamir. Percent is over him.

godsmack_darius
06-15-2009, 07:15 PM
Majd Addin definatly, coz he killed to enjoy, and all that Jazz,
William seemed pretty kool, coz he was ratsioning the food for the people
Sibrand was just Paranoid, so I dont blame him, seeing as thouh he knew that he wasnt going to an after life after Altair got to him, he thought their was nothing beyond, and Abu'l Nuqoud was just insane, by poisoning everyone, and he is gay too lol

altairego
06-15-2009, 07:29 PM
Majd addin. deliberately evil. cause he loved power.

godsmack_darius
06-15-2009, 07:34 PM
What he said http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Xanatos2007
06-15-2009, 09:54 PM
Majd Addin... "I killed them because I could! Because it was fun!" There was no reason behind his madness. It matters not how many people you kill or how, otherwise Altair would be the bad guy. But it's why you do it. The others believed they were doing good or lacked self control. Majd Addin accused people of wrongdoings and killed them for his own pleasure.

UchihaKarasu
06-15-2009, 10:00 PM
^ AGREED!!!!!!
I was very, very happy to take him down.
One of the few missions where I didn't go...."hmmm, whoops"

Xanatos2007
06-15-2009, 10:10 PM
He was also the most challenging to assassinate. Getting to him undetected was very tricky, and in order to start again I had to kill myself... which took ages! Still, it was satisfying. He's also the closest target to a bureau.

Cpt_Yanni
06-15-2009, 11:29 PM
i think the evil doctor was also bad!

Serenity9066
06-15-2009, 11:51 PM
I don't know about you guys but Sibrand was the funnest to assassinate. I thought he was funny.. Someone had to kill one of the scholars, and that person was going to die a seriously terrible, and horrible death XP.

Xanatos2007
06-16-2009, 12:02 AM
Has anyone tried to throw Sibrand into the water? When I play Assassin's Creed next, I'm gonna try.

Tela
06-16-2009, 12:05 AM
I'm surprised no one has said this yet: You have a pretty serious spoiler in the thread title. Alot of people have already finished AC1, and so would know about Al Mualim, but there could still be those who haven't yet floating around... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

MeAltairLol
06-16-2009, 12:18 AM
Tela, it's been almost a year and half since Assassin's Creed came out... spoilers aren't an issue any more, there's been plenty of time for someone to finish the game.

DearDirty
06-16-2009, 04:16 AM
None of them. They all believed that they were doing the right thing for the masses. Sure its utilitarian but logically it works. There is no such thing as 'Evil' unless its in a Disney film.

To some extent, they're kind of right, people aren't exactly the best at looking after themselves. Riots, murders, car crashes. Not to mention social psychology like The Bystander Effect. A woman was murdered in a street in New York in the 70's over the space of 3 hours and onlookers did nothing because they believed someone else would.

People are pretty weird. Taking away their free will may not agree with you, but if you're trying to save everyone from themselves...

Ahh, I guess I mean no one does anything with the intention of being 'Evil'.

Cpt_Yanni
06-16-2009, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Has anyone tried to throw Sibrand into the water? When I play Assassin's Creed next, I'm gonna try.

nice idea ... i'm also going to try it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Antonsenon
06-16-2009, 06:07 AM
Talal for me. He was a slave handler

Stormpen
06-16-2009, 07:07 AM
Majd Addin! He was the only guy who didn't say he 'was doing it for the greater good'.

Remember?

ALTAIR : So, you did it for the people?
M.A.: For the people?! No, I did it because I could!

Xanatos2007
06-16-2009, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by DearDirty:
None of them. They all believed that they were doing the right thing for the masses. Sure its utilitarian but logically it works. There is no such thing as 'Evil' unless its in a Disney film.

To some extent, they're kind of right, people aren't exactly the best at looking after themselves. Riots, murders, car crashes. Not to mention social psychology like The Bystander Effect. A woman was murdered in a street in New York in the 70's over the space of 3 hours and onlookers did nothing because they believed someone else would.

People are pretty weird. Taking away their free will may not agree with you, but if you're trying to save everyone from themselves...

Ahh, I guess I mean no one does anything with the intention of being 'Evil'.

Her name was Kitty Genorvese(spelling?), I remember that story. The one thing worse than evil men is the indifference of good men. "All that is required for evil men to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

Majd Addin did believe in order and dicipline, "Dissident voices cut deep as steel, they disrupt order. In this I do agree with the brotherhood." But that's not why he killed them. He was just mad with power. The others had good intentions, but their minds were poisoned and could not be convinced. Which is what makes the Piece of Eden so dangerous; it corrupts the mind. Thing of it as the One Ring.

revoltingbunny
06-16-2009, 07:22 AM
I chose Jubair... I mean... he was going to burn every book in Jerusalem or Damas... I don't know which city... abut he would've left alot of generations un-educated. But that's just me...

katz_bg
06-16-2009, 09:11 AM
I think Majd Addin is the ONLY evil target of the nine. He enjoyed killing and didn't care about other than his own benefit. The rest are misguided, but mean well

MeAltairLol
06-16-2009, 10:09 AM
I agree with DearDirty, with maybe the exception of Majd Addin...

EDIT: 600 posts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Black_Widow9
06-16-2009, 12:06 PM
I though that Garnier wasn't just a leg braker. Didn't he screw with their heads too? I thought that all the crazy people around were because of him? If that's the case, he's got my vote.

katz_bg
06-16-2009, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Stormpen:
Majd Addin! He was the only guy who didn't say he 'was doing it for the greater good'.

Remember?

ALTAIR : So, you did it for the people?
M.A.: For the people?! No, I did it because I could! Actually it was:

Altair: You killed people simply for believing differently than you.
M.A.: Of course not! I killed them because I could! Because it was fun!

yeap, he's evil.

Serenity9066
06-16-2009, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Has anyone tried to throw Sibrand into the water? When I play Assassin's Creed next, I'm gonna try.

Someone try this and tell us if Altair drowns when he "assassinates" him. Y'know like he does with every major boss with his wrist blade? That could be interesting.

Losk_
06-16-2009, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by katz_bg:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stormpen:
Majd Addin! He was the only guy who didn't say he 'was doing it for the greater good'.

Remember?

ALTAIR : So, you did it for the people?
M.A.: For the people?! No, I did it because I could! Actually it was:

Altair: You killed people simply for believing differently than you.
M.A.: Of course not! I killed them because I could! Because it was fun!

yeap, he's evil. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I always took that dialogue to be more a reflection on the player. How many ppl playing the game did the same thing to countless NPCs :b

My vote is for Jubair, destroying knowledge and censorship is definitely evil.

KZarr
06-16-2009, 03:11 PM
For me it's Talal the Slave Trader.

It was really sad to see the slaves locked up in his "mansion".

UbersoftLol
06-16-2009, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Serenity9066:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Has anyone tried to throw Sibrand into the water? When I play Assassin's Creed next, I'm gonna try.

Someone try this and tell us if Altair drowns when he "assassinates" him. Y'know like he does with every major boss with his wrist blade? That could be interesting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just did this and threw him off his ship drowning him without being detected, and the mission failed kuz it said Target Escaped http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif... Lol !!

Worth a try i guess http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

bladencrowd
06-16-2009, 06:20 PM
strange how William hasn't gotten any votes even though he killed 2 innocent men for no real reason.

Xanatos2007
06-16-2009, 11:43 PM
That and he also killed 3,000 Saracen prisoners. Good point indeed...

katz_bg
06-17-2009, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by bladencrowd:
strange how William hasn't gotten any votes even though he killed 2 innocent men for no real reason. well they did break the rules. but having those 3000 prisoners slaughtered does seem a bad solution.

bladencrowd
06-17-2009, 08:58 AM
When he kill 3,000 prisoners?

Thretimesb
06-17-2009, 09:37 AM
^^^ He kills 3,000 prisoners anecdotaly, we never see it. Richard mentions it to him (us).

This topic finally brought me out of lurking in the shadows. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jubair was most evil by a slim margin IMO. One of the greatest tragedies in history is the burning of the Great Library at Alexandria.

He is followed closely by Garnier (where's your Hippocratic oath, doctor?) and then by Talal (slavery is just evil).

Luis-D
06-17-2009, 02:01 PM
I don't know about you guys but Majd Addin, is obviously the most evil for me.

Majd Addin executed lots of people but what makes him evil is why. When you kill him, he says that he killed those people just for fun and because he could.

That's just sick and saddistic which makes him much more evil and insane than Abul in my opinion.

Serenity9066
06-17-2009, 03:16 PM
Yeah Sibrand was just stupid. Not necessarily evil. He lost his mind under made up pressure, and structures, and as a consequence did something stupid.. which got him killed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
He knew and feared something bad was about to happen to him, and decided he needed to do something drastic.
OBVIOUSLY an old man can't be the assassin. Ugh. This is why I liked killing him.

I'm not really sure who I think is the most evil. Evil is a word you can't use to describe bad men your comparing, who all did equally wrong things. That's the great thing about the game. You think with Altair as he progresses through the game learning new things.

There really is a lesson in there somewhere. What video game gives you that? lol Another http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif to the makers.

Silhouette1991
06-18-2009, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Serenity9066:
Yeah Sibrand was just stupid. Not necessarily evil. He lost his mind under made up pressure, and structures, and as a consequence did something stupid.. which got him killed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
He knew and feared something bad was about to happen to him, and decided he needed to do something drastic.
OBVIOUSLY an old man can't be the assassin. Ugh. This is why I liked killing him.

I'm not really sure who I think is the most evil. Evil is a word you can't use to describe bad men your comparing, who all did equally wrong things. That's the great thing about the game. You think with Altair as he progresses through the game learning new things.

There really is a lesson in there somewhere. What video game gives you that? lol Another http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif to the makers. I'm sorry to interrupt your opinion,but people do stupid things when they are scared,right?What would you do if you were in his shoes?And not to mention that in those times,assassins had many conections (I read that long time ago).For me,Sibrand and William were the best characters in the game,William listening to his orders,and Sibrand that was just scared of death,which eventualy got him.Jubair and Majd Addin were the worse characters in the game,not to mention,the most evil.

Serenity9066
06-18-2009, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Silhouette1991:
I'm sorry to interrupt your opinion

How dare you interrupt my opinion on a forum! Jeese! What are you thinking?! Can't have any more input in the conversation after my awesomely overrated insight. No! What's wrong with you? Seriously. How could you? I think I'm going to go cry in a corner now.

EDIT: I think Altair was the best character of the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.. my opinion though.

EDIT 2: Actually I can't decide between Altair and Desmond. How 'bout Desmond/Altair? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Silhouette1991
06-19-2009, 10:34 AM
EDIT: I think Altair was the best character of the game Wink.. my opinion though.
I meant beside Altair and Desmond ofc http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif.