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salty_monkey
12-15-2010, 07:46 AM
So i have 5 specialist watchmen uptop, including senior officer and 3 NCOs. Imagine my suprise when I hear rounds pinging off hull and a shell exploding in water. I come up top and see a destroyer about 10 yards away, upon which I am given a "SHip SPotted" shout.

What the hell have they been doing up there? answers on a postcard to... seriously though, not spotting a ship until its on top of you , no excuse, even if visibility is 500 meters, which is what the current weather is.

Max_Schnell
12-15-2010, 08:30 AM
Yup, I have had the same thing happen. I have also been submerged and when I check the sonar there were loud and numerous swooshes in the water. The stinkin' operator didn't pick any of it up. Even when I set the dial to the loudest noise and clicked on the check mark he still couldn't hear hit. Very frustrating.

Also, I believe when the green bar above a station is full, then that is the maximum amount of coverage for that station. I believe that if you have one actual watchman and three sailors and the bar is totally green, then that is probably all the coverage you'll get. It won't improve matters to have four petty officers qualified as watchment, the coverage is still going to be the same. They might better serve as torpedo men, sonar, etc.

I could be wrong about all this. I'm basing my opinion purely on my own observations, but I still agree with you on the frustration when the crew can't see it or hear it.

I await our peers feedback, I'm sure you and I are not the only ones.

Good Hunting!

Schnell

Mittelwaechter
12-15-2010, 08:44 AM
Jump to the bridge by surprise and you'll recognize your watch did not observe the horizon at all. They get their binos up quite fast and try to look busy but I doubt they are doing their job as ordered. The watch officer on duty seems to be very crew-friendly and you should have a stern talk to him.

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I like this little uncertainity in SH3 - a surprise is possible anytime. It doesn't happen often but it happens.

Kielhauler2010
12-15-2010, 08:51 AM
What time compression were you running at when you got 'bounced'? Also, what year and what enemy ship class was it and where? Not that you probably had time to ID the thing? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Through my experience running at higher TC INCREASES the chance of being caught with your pants down. You are much less stealthy, and your crew have less time to react to threats.

To give you an example. When I run at low TC my watch crew (bless their little cotton socks) spot aircraft at long or medium range. At high TC they don't report aircraft until they are at short range. One of the reasons I creep about at x32 or less these days. Make the patrols more tedious but safer.

If you were caught after late 1941 chances are you were detected first on his radar. Bad weather now serves the enemy, not us.

Exactly the smae thing happened to me last two patrols (I never learn). Early '42, low vis., Hunt class DD screaming out of the fog at 350m! Hit my boat a glancing blow and I crash-dived and got away. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

I do believe that, although the green bar is maxed-out, you can still improve the efficency of any station with more qualified personnel on duty.

KH.

Paul..Siegmann
12-23-2010, 01:45 AM
There were a few times that after seeing the warship mark on the nav.map so close to my U-Boot - I heard no warnings from my crew on the bridge. When I got out to have a look myself - I usually managed to spot the unit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Also, das kommt schon...
And one more thing that makes me crazy is that after being submerged, when you surface again, the matrosen and maaten move to the bridge automatically and the WO - does not! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
I got to move him manually! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Yes. And if the ship is spotted and no WO present on the bridge - then the crew do not report the coordinates of the spotted unit and you got to sweep through the horizon yourself... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Kielhauler2010
12-23-2010, 03:30 AM
The thing that annoys me about the watch officer is when he is placed on the tower he just stands there with his hands in his pockets. When I go to the tower station, I have to double-click on him to get him to start work! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

As Mittelwaechter said the watch crew just stand around talking until YOU arrive on the bridge and then they get busy.