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JG27_Dacripler
03-26-2005, 01:24 PM
It have been awhile since I posted here but I suppose it is because I am getting a little annoyed with the behavior with the individuals playing online.
3 years back a salute was customary from what I thought. Now if you shoot someone, you will hear a F&^K you /cheater/ lucky shot or something to that respect.
Nobody gives a **** about anyone and it is apparent in every server and "yes" I have flown yours one time or another so don't sell me a line- I've heard them.
I switched over to Half-life/ Far Cry /Red Orchestra for awhile until the patch fiasco is over but will catch a flight from time to time. These games have the same loud mouth idiots as much as we have .. But our average age of players are most likely 15 or so years older.. Hmm.. So much for maturity..

In Summary: Wake up and give consideration, Even the No0bs have started a progressive spiral.. It sounds like the CFS zone chat all over again so..

Sorry, Sparks and the TgD guys, my apologies for you having to deal with this stuff. Time is due: Eliminate the **** and let them go elseswhere. lowering standards will not improve the server -- keep it strong an dump the azzwipes that disturb your gameplay..

Just my words .. Flame me

S! To the players that send the right message.

RedDeth
03-26-2005, 01:35 PM
personally and this is not just me i hate when people salute me if they shoot me. its like spitting in your face after you just got punched.

but what you are saying is you would prefer they salute you after you shoot them instead of calling you cheater. now that i can understand and is cool. to salute the guy that shot you if he did a fantastic job and just didnt swoop into a dogfight in progress and shoot willy nilly.

i like it best though when they call me a cheater as this states to everyone in the server two things.

1 That i am better than that whiner.

and

2 that guy is a real loser and now everyone knows it

RedDeth
03-26-2005, 01:38 PM
oh and if it really bothers you when they say stupid things after you shoot them just do like i do.

start arguing with them till they drag you down to their level and your C.O. gets pissed at you.

that works for me most of the time.

QUACK

JG27_Dacripler
03-26-2005, 02:15 PM
I tend to agree with you when you are shot down then saluted. At first it was humiliating but then some pilots gave it out of respect for a well-flown match. Other times it became habit and customary.
I don't know, but it was a hell of a lot better than having a drawn out chat-fest going on in a server and it worked out better than what we have now..

I've saluted everyone in your squadron as you have me in one form or another.. Face it- we have all been killed by one another. More or less depending on the pilot.
When I devoted myself into the closed pit servers full-time shortly after GK did (before he was AFJ) I notice they were much more inclined to the salute..Closed pits were just better. Seldom were the attitudes and it was a much more comfortable place to fly.
Anyway, I hope you understand my drift. Tell Blackhart, "hello" for me as he is missed by the JG27..One fine stick for sure S!

p1ngu666
03-26-2005, 02:40 PM
i dont tend to S! ppl cos im not like that, ill S! back sometimes.

personaly i think its pointless to S! if all they did was get shot

i am know for my bad moods also http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

BBB_Hyperion
03-27-2005, 05:19 AM
Well this "Salute" issue has been out a while .

While in the old days you could be sure that the other guys are respectable guys from the flightsim community ,it wasnt a problem to salute everyone.
But as the sim did meet the mass market more and more guys not from the pilot, engineering or hobby historians etc club entered the sim. Thats just a fact no rating if that is good or bad.

The full real servers were safe for a time but today as the esc refly (to avoid getting downed) agenda is even present on the fr servers its definitly clear old days are over and the developement to airquake can be seen easily as how serious some take their stats and play this sim as replacement for a egoshooter.

Now you can find "Salute" on the most unfitting events possible.
Some even use it when vulching .

Pretty popular is the reinvention as better "hi" too.

For myself i restricted that to guys that deserve it.

List of things that IMHO dont deserve a salute back.

Subcategories
-DF took less than 3 minutes.
-bounce at takeoff , air etc.
-attack with superior numbers.
-spray around at 0.8 km and shoot a wing off or damage plane inable to df.
-teammate engagement ruins a long df doesnt matter if enemy or friendly
-crashing into my plane cause of lack of flying ability or ammo

No real df or in other words everything where the other guys didnt need to work hard for its goal isnt worth to be given extra credits.

List of things that IMHO deserve some extra credits .)

-Fighting and winning in situations with enemy numerical superiority
-Using worse equipment and still succeed
-Turning situation from disadvantage to advantage.
-letting a already beaten plane bail out , land safely
-df in fair conditions that takes longer than 5 minutes

F19_Orheim
03-27-2005, 05:42 AM
I just shoot down and shut up, even though I might giggle by myself..... OR get shot down and mutter... No need for saluting but I would love to get rid of the online rudeness.... in game and here....

ImpStarDuece
03-27-2005, 06:01 AM
I generally salute anyone that shoots me down, unless it is an obvious kill steal or a gang up situation. I will also salute anyone that gives me a really good fight, whether I win or lose or we end up unable to finish it;

I got into a high altitude scrap (6000m+ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) in a MkVIII with a pilot in a K4 on 334th_Dedicated (Guadalcanal map)on Friday night. I have flown the server a lot recently and knew this guy was a pretty dedicated K4 specialist. We merged slightly off angle and he was very slightly above but I somehow managed to actually turn the fight my way. I had nothing but my .303 ammo left having gotten 4 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Blues doing some B'nZ work earlier in the sorty. We jockeyed for at least ten minutes directly over the Red base, getting up towards 8000m back down to 5000m and then up over 6000m again. I had position over him for most of the fight but never got him into killing range of my .303s and couldnt bring myself to waste ammo. I ended up wimping out and asking for a draw, even though I was pretty sure I could of cripppled/killed him, because I was low on fuel and ammo and to my suprise he agreed.

I didn't ~S~ then but looking back at it I can easily say that it was the single best dogfight I have ever gotten into. I think that the vast majority of pilots out there are simply unaware of the ettiqute that the salute involves. I have played IL2 since it hit the shelves in Australia I didn't know about the ettiqute of it AT ALL until I got online about 6 months back and I still think I am learning. I think that generally the missuse stems from ignorance rather than a bad attitude. I have found myself more willing to use it now that I fly on fewer servers. You meet the same people repeatedly and have a little more respect for them because of that. If the same dogfight had occured on a server that I dont normally visit I think I would of pushed the kill on that K4. But because I had flown with/against this guy previously we both had a measure of respect for each other.

As the community gets larger and larger its hard to maintain that same level of closeness. Annonimity and competition seems to bring out the worst in people. That, combined with the occasional noisy rotten apple, end up causing a lot of friction. Some people take this too seriously and others display a serious lack of respect. My little brother is an amazingly good Counter Strike player, but the attitude in that (admittedly HUGE) community is WAY different from that of a flight sim community. I've got him online a few times in some of the newbie servers and almost choked at the amount of trash talk that he considers a 'normal' part of any game. I might do that stuff with some mates on the rugby field but not in a game where sarcasm is a little hard to interpret. I think that there is a real seperation from peple who play this as a 'game' and people who play this as a 'sim'. It's part of a shift in the attitude of the community.

With PF having an American focus (it hasn't been released in Japan as far as I know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif) maybe it is bringing with it some of the attitudes of the 'causal, teenage, American gamer'. A younger group who don't really care about the historical correctness or community but just use it an another 'game' to blow some leisure time on.

Swivet
03-27-2005, 06:16 AM
1 That i am better than that whiner.

and

2 that guy is a real loser and now everyone knows it

Anyone who whines or throws it in your face that he or she made a kill or whine when they get killed are just lil punks. As a matter of fact i am not going to waste anymore time typing about such garbage. We know who they are, and they know who "they" are. Sore losers and bully's will always meet my gunsights http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Arm_slinger
03-27-2005, 06:22 AM
Take out the salute thing as well, i detest it. I find it patronising and takes the piss

VW-IceFire
03-27-2005, 06:23 AM
I still salute pilots who salute me. But its rare...seems to have disappeared for the most part.

Da_Godfatha
03-27-2005, 08:56 AM
The problem with the Salute thing is this, too many wannabe heroes flying F4UFO`s or Spitfires like to use it. Sorry guys, certain planes do not impress me when they shoot me down. Use a F2a or a Hurricane, THEN I will be impressed.

Another thing, IMHO there is way too many "Magic Bullets" online now. Not everybody can kill you with a 1 second burst!. I know, I know,all the Super Pilots will tell me, "But I can!!!"

Maybe the next patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif (if it ever comes out), will fix alot of the strangeness that is online.

SeaNorris
03-27-2005, 09:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
I generally salute anyone that shoots me down, unless it is an obvious kill steal or a gang up situation. I will also salute anyone that gives me a really good fight, whether I win or lose or we end up unable to finish it;

I got into a high altitude scrap (6000m+ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) in a MkVIII with a pilot in a K4 on 334th_Dedicated (Guadalcanal map)on Friday night. I have flown the server a lot recently and knew this guy was a pretty dedicated K4 specialist. We merged slightly off angle and he was very slightly above but I somehow managed to actually turn the fight my way. I had nothing but my .303 ammo left having gotten 4 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Blues doing some B'nZ work earlier in the sorty. We jockeyed for at least ten minutes directly over the Red base, getting up towards 8000m back down to 5000m and then up over 6000m again. I had position over him for most of the fight but never got him into killing range of my .303s and couldnt bring myself to waste ammo. I ended up wimping out and asking for a draw, even though I was pretty sure I could of cripppled/killed him, because I was low on fuel and ammo and to my suprise he agreed.

I didn't ~S~ then but looking back at it I can easily say that it was the single best dogfight I have ever gotten into. I think that the vast majority of pilots out there are simply unaware of the ettiqute that the salute involves. I have played IL2 since it hit the shelves in Australia I didn't know about the ettiqute of it AT ALL until I got online about 6 months back and I still think I am learning. I think that generally the missuse stems from ignorance rather than a bad attitude. I have found myself more willing to use it now that I fly on fewer servers. You meet the same people repeatedly and have a little more respect for them because of that. If the same dogfight had occured on a server that I dont normally visit I think I would of pushed the kill on that K4. But because I had flown with/against this guy previously we both had a measure of respect for each other.

As the community gets larger and larger its hard to maintain that same level of closeness. Annonimity and competition seems to bring out the worst in people. That, combined with the occasional noisy rotten apple, end up causing a lot of friction. Some people take this too seriously and others display a serious lack of respect. My little brother is an amazingly good Counter Strike player, but the attitude in that (admittedly HUGE) community is WAY different from that of a flight sim community. I've got him online a few times in some of the newbie servers and almost choked at the amount of trash talk that he considers a 'normal' part of any game. I might do that stuff with some mates on the rugby field but not in a game where sarcasm is a little hard to interpret. I think that there is a real seperation from peple who play this as a 'game' and people who play this as a 'sim'. It's part of a shift in the attitude of the community.

With PF having an American focus (it hasn't been released in Japan as far as I know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif) maybe it is bringing with it some of the attitudes of the 'causal, teenage, American gamer'. A younger group who don't really care about the historical correctness or community but just use it an another 'game' to blow some leisure time on. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well some people are just like that. Personally S! starts to do my head in. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Cdn401HARRIER
03-27-2005, 09:34 AM
A DOGFIGHT IS LIKE A BOXING MATCH.1vs1 AND SOMEONE WILL WIN 99.9% OF THE TIME.AFTER YOU DOWN YOUR OPPOSTION OR HE DOWNS YOU THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A SALUTE IT IS GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP.EVERY TIME YOU STEP IN THE RING THE GUY ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE ENEMY. AFTER WINNING A FIGHT YOU ALWAYS GIVE RESPECT.

personally and this is not just me i hate when people salute me if they shoot me. its like spitting in your face after you just got punched.

YOU SHOULD'NT HAVE LET HIM HIT YOU

SeaNorris
03-27-2005, 09:37 AM
you know i think this S! thing is lame.

Get on with it. It's a ****ing game after all.

diomedes33
03-27-2005, 09:50 AM
When ever I see someone do something that I respect or admire I will tell them, "Nice Shot," "Great Flying," etc ... I don't like the ambiguity of the salute. My personal reasons for commenting on a fight are the same as BBB_Hyperion's.

I usually salute back when someone salutes me. However, when I'm running on TS and my keyboard isn't very accessible, its kind of a PITA to type two characters. Luckily 99.9% of my engagement take less than 3 seconds (the good and the bad).

SeaNorris
03-27-2005, 10:18 AM
I say good kill and that.

PBNA-Boosher
03-27-2005, 10:49 PM
I always salute out of respect for my opponent, whether I did the shooting down or they shot me down. I try not to kill, rather I try to disable as much as I can of the enemy plane, to make it useless in combat, so they have to fly home or bail.

I believe that in our simulated air combat, respect is earned, not immediately given. If you fly fairly, regardless of skill level, and don't kamikaze your way for kills and points in a DF server.
(in coops it's a different matter. I see "tarans" in coops as useful, but only if you can survive and if the other pilot can survive as well. Ripping the wing off an enemy with your wing when you run out of ammunition to stop them from bombing their objective is a heroic thing to do.)
Shooting of parachutes does not earn respect

Stealing kills does not earn respect (I'm talking about if you rip a guy's wing off and your team mate still tries to shoot him)

Shooting wounded does not earn respect.

Disrespectful language and accusations do not earn respect.


Whether you consider yourself one or not, everyone here has the potential to be an Arthurian knight of the sky. It is our actions, what we choose to do in our simulated air combats, that earn this respect. A Luftwaffe flier who escorts a heavily wounded P-38 back to his airbase deserves the utmost respect, as it would the other way around. A P-38 pilot who keeps shooting at a Bf-109 with giant holes in its wing and fuselage, and also is streaming smoke and flames does not deserve any respect.

All of us do agree- war is brutal, there is nothing that can stop the brutality of war but the end of war itself. But what we can do is minimize casualties. Would not these boys, some only 18 years old, a German, an American, an Englishman, A Finn, all be friends with the same passion of flight had a war not been started?

We must all act like comrades, though we simulate ourselves on two opposite sides of the front lines in one of the most brutal of human conflicts.

diomedes33
03-27-2005, 10:55 PM
Boosher for President!!!!!!!


Sorry couldn't resist. I agree with everything you said.

-HH-Quazi
03-27-2005, 11:12 PM
A S! is not spitting in your faces. Cussing you and calling you names is more like spitting in your faces than a S!. A S! is just a quick way to let your opponet know, "Thanks for a good fight m8." Whether you did the shooting or got shot down. Just my thoughts. I guess my age is showing eh? HEHEHE

RedDeth
03-27-2005, 11:35 PM
dacripler we need to talk on pm ......

cough...

quack

BuzzU
03-27-2005, 11:45 PM
You can always turn off chat.

Badsight.
03-28-2005, 12:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedDeth:
personally and this is not just me i hate when people salute me if they shoot me. its like spitting in your face after you just got punched. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>couldnt put it better myself

i understand how many see it as respect , i dont really

Mackane1
03-28-2005, 12:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
I always salute out of respect for my opponent, whether I did the shooting down or they shot me down. I try not to kill, rather I try to disable as much as I can of the enemy plane, to make it useless in combat, so they have to fly home or bail.

I believe that in our simulated air combat, respect is earned, not immediately given. If you fly fairly, regardless of skill level, and don't kamikaze your way for kills and points in a DF server.
(in coops it's a different matter. I see "tarans" in coops as useful, but only if you can survive and if the other pilot can survive as well. Ripping the wing off an enemy with your wing when you run out of ammunition to stop them from bombing their objective is a heroic thing to do.)
Shooting of parachutes does not earn respect

Stealing kills does not earn respect (I'm talking about if you rip a guy's wing off and your team mate still tries to shoot him)

Shooting wounded does not earn respect.

Disrespectful language and accusations do not earn respect.


Whether you consider yourself one or not, everyone here has the potential to be an Arthurian knight of the sky. It is our actions, what we choose to do in our simulated air combats, that earn this respect. A Luftwaffe flier who escorts a heavily wounded P-38 back to his airbase deserves the utmost respect, as it would the other way around. A P-38 pilot who keeps shooting at a Bf-109 with giant holes in its wing and fuselage, and also is streaming smoke and flames does not deserve any respect.

All of us do agree- war is brutal, there is nothing that can stop the brutality of war but the end of war itself. But what we can do is minimize casualties. Would not these boys, some only 18 years old, a German, an American, an Englishman, A Finn, all be friends with the same passion of flight had a war not been started?

We must all act like comrades, though we simulate ourselves on two opposite sides of the front lines in one of the most brutal of human conflicts. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Dolemite-
03-28-2005, 01:31 AM
The way I see it is: the person who IS shot down should be the first to S!, if he doesnt S!, then there is no salute at all.

I agree that S! someone after you have shot them down is kind of being an a** hole.

LeadSpitter_
03-28-2005, 01:55 AM
hey dacripler sry but this is a biggest whine post I seen in awhile. Im just wondering who the hell cares about language on servers. I mean really i see these people say we play to the highest standard of running a clean server. We are better then everyone else server blah blah.

bollox, these people can not take a joke, they do it just to flex their server admin muscles like they are some gods.

F that, servers with trash talk are fun and it adds to the game, and the really annoying people makes you want to kill them more in the game. When I get shot down, I say lucky shot sometimes, or say i was taking a leak afk good kill as a joke to people, So what theres nothing wrong becuase its joking around. Most the people get that its a joke.

I actually enjoyed flying against goodknight and joke around, same with pappy and remus all good pilots at the game. Its funny and makes the game more enjoyable then a bunch of il2 priests barking commands making a non action packed flight or climb even more boring.

It adds to the game and for the yougins, their fathers or mothers can drag the chat window off the screen.

I think the whole S thing is ridiculous some of these rooms the whole chat is

S
S
S
S
gk
S

and even worse its always the guy who got the kill who S's even if its a vulched, ridiculous.

If someone says S to me good fight ill say it was a lucky swing of the rudder by me.

Take a break from the game for two weeks if you let such little things bug ya man.

Badsight.
03-28-2005, 02:01 AM
this from a guy who doesnt like extra chat over comms ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

man theres nothing worse than people who cant being shot down & try to spoil everyone elses fun

JG54_Arnie
03-28-2005, 02:34 AM
When starting to fly this sim I actually liked the S!, salute. Still do when cool dogfights evolve, but its pointless when using it after every kill or quick engagement.

Then, when I do use it it is mostly in combination with a comment about the fight, how nice it was or whatever.

And yeah, when chat bothers you, just dont read it, simple as that. And let the whiners whine, its not worth a response. Especailly since typing takes you out of the game and makes you vulnerable. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

F19_Ob
03-28-2005, 02:49 AM
Luckily there's still some mature people out there....even young matures.
Sadly only a few bad behaving pilots is needed to ruin a good atmosphere.
Personally I'm not so bothered with things directed towards me ,Its like pouring water on a duck.
However I get more irritated when Its directed to others and especially if the other guy then feels forced to quit. That leaves a bad taste.

The best medicin is to fly with friends. Good company also makes u immune to most forms of idiosy, exept in a group of cretins.
I also avoid starting or continuing arguments.
Sometimes a bad atmosphere can be lightenend by throwing positive messages around to other players.
Well done!
good kill!
That seems to work.

If nothing helps and I get really mad I'll take a break before I say something I regret and that happens on occasion.


--------------------------------------
Optional contemplation if u have the time...
My oldest brother gets mad for nothing and just cant hold his irritation back, while I can take about anything without blinking. Like two sides of a coin. My younger brother is somewhere between us.


I remember when I was a kid, playing and competing with others without thinking about it.
I noticed how it got way more serious whenever some girls were watching. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
When I was old enough to form my first concious thoughts about the "competition" matter I felt very embarrassed over how simple it was in structure.
Later, after some learning, I saw how easily we could be grouped with baboons and other fellow-inhabitants in any way, even the competition thingy was the same. (no offense ment. I like baboons).
I love nature but I will fight the competitionaspect as much as I can until last oosing breath. ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif )

What I try to say is that we all have it in us and it will at some point pop out its uggly face.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

A Forum like this is great...anyone can vent their issues...

Monson74
03-28-2005, 04:47 AM
Personally I prefered things the way they were when this was a gentlemens' game. I learned the online simming etiquette back in the RB3D days & found it to be a great gaming environment. S! means 'no hard feelings' & that you respect the other pilot regardless of who won the fight - this has nothing to do with winning or losing - it's simply an indication that the fight is over & you accept the outcome. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

sapper78
03-28-2005, 04:56 AM
Well... the thing that bothers me, is that on some servers, people dont seem to have any manners... I´ve noticed, that this goes with some servers, which have "easy settings" external view on (exept UK dedicated), for example. I have never had this kind of problems with greatergreen, or warclouds (for example)

the saluting is one thing, but there are other things as well... for example, when i join a server, i tend to say hello or good evening, etc to everyone... it´s pretty rare that someone replies... When i leave the server, i usually thank everyone for the good fight... hardly no one replies... I mean, i´m not loosing my sleep over this matter, but it would be polite to reply.... right? (unless you are engaged at the moment)

Another example: i spot two enemy b-25´s heading our towards our field, and send a chat message to my team "2 b-25 closing our field, heading 250, alt 2100" maybe 1 time out of 5, someone bothers to copy that... after all, it would be nice to know, am i gonna fight those 2 b-25´s all alone, or is some one coming to assist me?

How about combat then? Too many times, when you get behind some bogeys six, there´s one of your own team firing over your shoulder... that pisses me off.... Or, when you get your bad guy in flames, and it is clear that no way he can keep up fighting, someone of your own team fires a couple of machine gun bursts at him, and the kill goes for him...

Usually, when flying on some decent server, like warclouds or greater green, after i´ve messed up my enemy´s ailerions or got his engine pulling a black smoke, i leave him alone. With the servers, i´m whining about, if you want those points, then you are gonna have to follow that guy all the way to the ground, and keep on firing....

Ok ok, when i´m flying with my own squadron, i dont really care who gets the points, as long as the bad guy is going down... but when flying without my squaddies, i really would like to have those points, that i deserve....

Am i a whiner, or do i have a point?

There´s particularly one server, which i´m pointing at, but i´m not saying any names... those of you who have flown there, know which server i´m talking about...

stubby
03-28-2005, 05:54 AM
It really isn't a big deal. The only folks I actually send chat messages to are those I actually have a repore or history with. I'll acknolwedge them when the time comes but everybody else, I don't even know what they type since I like to totally minimize the chat window. It's just a waste of good screen space. I typically find that servers running with most of the difficulty settings 'on' are much more cordial. The best environments are still full-real coops. You don't get any nonsense. Quake servers running on 'easy' is typically where you get the a-holes. Bottom line, minimize the chat window to nothing and enjoy the game. If a trees falls in the forest and you don't see it ...

Mackane1
03-28-2005, 08:24 AM
The only online etiquette I care about is shoulder shooting. I set my controlers up so I never have to reach for the keyboard again. Who the hell wants to worry about typing ANYTHING while you're flying. I salute no one and expect no salute in return. It's easier that way.

sapper78
03-28-2005, 10:43 AM
What surprised me most when i started playing il-2, was how great atmosphere, most servers had... how people interacted with each other... a good sportsmanship, if you like... Am i just a sentimental old fool, or was it really like that, back then?

It seems that there are more and more players, who are lone wolves, who only play their own game, and screw the teammates? In (for example) call of duty, that´s nothing new, but i´ve always thought il-2 players are more mature than that...

Stiglr
03-28-2005, 10:47 AM
The problem I have with the "S!" thing is, it's too easily cast off and to my eye does seem dismissive and insincere.

If you truly wish to salute/belittle your adversary, take the time to type a REAL message about the engagement, like, "Gotcha!", or "Sorry, that move won't work against me!" or "Wow, you really made it hard to get in that last shot!" or something that shows more than the ability to send one of those "numbered messages" from the icon buffer.

Even something as simple as "nice fight" is better than "S!" Of course, one could always program any of these messages into the auto text numbered fields.... but still, it's all in the presentation.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BBB_Hyperion
03-28-2005, 03:56 PM
Lol for fun tried it a while ago to "Gotcha!" answer came "Cheater" .)

BaldieJr
03-28-2005, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
You can always turn off chat. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats what I do.

TheStriker_p51d
03-28-2005, 05:29 PM
being from cfs1....crip...no one ever saluted...and i never really will....no need to rub it in, the silent treatment does well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif