View Full Version : Nooby question from a nooby

07-25-2005, 09:30 AM
Hi all

I've come to these games late I know, so please be patient with me. I have installed IL-2 and also Forgotten Battles and they seem very daunting, question is are there any hand-holding type write-ups. I'm not looking for walkthroughs as such, just something to look after me for a few early missions?

07-25-2005, 09:38 AM
I don't know about what you are asking for, never heard of it but you'll need lots of patience to learn to fly well. It takes a long time but worth the effort.

Try to see if there are any IL-2 pilots in your area. I think most of the guys like meeting each other and you can learn a lot from them.

Just post another thread with your city's, town's, village's name as the title. I live in Beijing and did this about 3 years ago. I've met about 100 pilots from 5 different squadrons this way.

Good luck dude. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


han freak solo
07-25-2005, 09:43 AM
This site will hold your hand.


Welcome! Have patience and enjoy the challenge!!

07-25-2005, 09:43 AM
Well, there aren't really any walkthroughs because the missions are never identical. What problem(s) are you having? I cut off a lot of the features like complex engine management, because it was too much to deal with. If you choose the highest rank when setting up the new campaign, you have command of the rest of your squadron. This way you can at least have somebody to watch your 6, and can call for help if needed. It will also let you tell one squad to hit ground targets while you fly cover or you tell them to cover you while you go after the bombers.

07-25-2005, 10:35 AM
Ask around this forum for help. A bit more specific question would be nice because this sim is very complex.

Great to have a new person in this community! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

07-25-2005, 12:34 PM
Many experts would say to bite the bullet but Id recommend having all settings at easy....

07-25-2005, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by SlithyTove:
Hi all

I've come to these games late I know, so please be patient with me. I have installed IL-2 and also Forgotten Battles and they seem very daunting, question is are there any hand-holding type write-ups. I'm not looking for walkthroughs as such, just something to look after me for a few early missions?
My advice is to spend the next several hours of playtime (whenever you get the chance) flying in the Quick Mission Builder (the QMB). This is where I learned to fly and then fight. Slowly work your way through flying different planes on different missions (air to air, air to ground, etc.). Find the ones that you like and fit your skills best and work your way up through them.

When you get a chance, then start flying some of the single missions included with the game. Start trying to complete entire missions by flying, attacking, completing the objective of the mission, and returning to base. Then you will have got to the point where offline campaigns and online servers are going to be challenging but possible.

I'd recommend checking out my Single Mission pack which is 91 missions for the RAF, USAAF, Luftwaffe, and VVS which gives you the four major airforces and their assorted aircraft to start off on. AEP 2.04 or a PF merged install will do nicely to be able to play all the missions.

Go here to get it: http://www.flying-legends.net/php/downloads/listings.ph...e_number=3&cat_id=23 (http://www.flying-legends.net/php/downloads/listings.php?page_number=3&cat_id=23)

-HH- Beebop
07-25-2005, 05:25 PM
Welcome aboard SlithyTove.

The key is practice, practice, practice. After that practice some more.

*han freak solo's link is a MUST! A lot of excellent info there.
*Pirschjaeger and Icefire have good recommendations as well. I'd do both.

It is a daunting sim but very rewarding. This is without a doubt, the best flight sim available today. soon you may become addicted, and a pleasent addiction it is too.

You've come to the right place for help. Just ask. When I found this place I got tons of help. This is a great community.

(BTW, love your username, just don't let anyone catch you gyring and gimbling in the wabe!) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

07-25-2005, 05:30 PM
http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/happy/1055.gif Welcome.

07-25-2005, 10:50 PM
Sorry Slithy-T, forgot to say welcome. We can do this in two ways:

A) a warm hug and a big wet kiss. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


B) a couple of cold beers and many cheers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Take your pick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif beer, beer, beer, choose beer.


07-25-2005, 11:33 PM
Welcome aboard.
In addition to the airwarfare link above, try these two:

Sturmovik Essentials (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=51910959)
SimHQ's air combat library (http://www.simhq.com/_air/acc_library.html)

07-25-2005, 11:37 PM
Because you will probably end up asking this anyway, Shift+F1 is what you press to centre your view on the gunsight.

Ok, now you're set. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

07-26-2005, 01:46 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome guys, much appreciated and your advice is taken. Ice-Fire's recommended download Sinle Mission pack is for Forgotten Battles, should I forget about IL-2 and just start with Forgotten Battles?

Also, while watching the training video in IL-2 the plane eventually crashes while I'm sat watching it. I patched it to v.1.2, is the Instructor a worse pilot than me, hard to believe?

07-26-2005, 02:20 AM
The original IL2 has a bunch of missions that aren't in FB, but other than that FB contains all content included in the original. If you want to save some disk space you can copy all the original IL2 missions to the corresponding mission folders in FB and they'll mostly work fine. It's up to you whether you keep both installs or ditch IL2 in favour of FB.

The training missions are .trk recordings, the same as any saved missions you make using the "Save Track" button at the end of a mission. They are recordings of the mission start conditions and exact control inputs for the player aircraft. For proper playback they rely on the aircraft responding exactly as it did when the track was recorded, but the patches change the flight model. Consequently IL2 the training missions only work properly in the original unpatched version of IL2 Sturmovik (ver1.0).

07-26-2005, 08:13 AM
Welcome on board. Nice to have you with us.

My recommendations:

1. Uninstall IL2 and keep IL2:FB. Copy the IL2 missions to the FB missions folder if you want them. They are nice!

3. Use the Quick model builder and set up some simple challenges: Fly a fighter or IL2 of your taste and shoot down some unarmed bombers.

4. Use simple settings at first and turn on more difficult settings (e.g. realistic gunnery) after a while. Turning on difficult settings to soon is very discouraging and boring.

5. Get the ACE Expansion Pack (AEP) and Pacific Fighters (PF) to make a merged install. Finally patch it up to 4.01m. Then you have the latest and the greatest and can join online games.

Have som patience, and soon you will be a new ace in the not so friendly online skies.

Good luck

07-26-2005, 04:26 PM
You said nooby twice in the subject lol thats nooby in itself http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif nah just playin! If ya want, i would really njoy going through different planes and combat maneuvres with ya. I really like talkin about maneuvres and dogfights. Also, let me just say that you are better off learning from the start in the cockpit and with limited ammo and fuel. And u will need a half decent stick to learn with. U can pick one up for 30 or sumink.

Then as we all say, go into Quick mission builder and set up a fight with some enemys but set their ordnance to empty, then they will take you through maneuvres but not shoot at you, so that will teach u how to use the stick and familiarise u with the flight models. Remember, stalls happen for a reason, watch your airflow and speed! Good luck and welcome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif