View Full Version : The clouds parted,the angels sang,& the light shined...

11-24-2004, 07:29 AM
right down on my computer last night.

I had made the mistake of buying a brand computer ( a p4 2.8 ghz). But it had no agp slot. So I had been forced to use a ati 9200. Well I bought a new mobo and a 9800 pro and a new 19' lcd monitor.

All I can is I nearly had a heart attack.

Needless to say I didnt get any sleep last night.
For those of you who were in the same boat as me, I highly recommend you get a new mobo and card. You can get them cheap on-line. The LCD monitor makes a big difference.

11-24-2004, 07:35 AM
Good to hear wade... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

11-24-2004, 07:37 AM
No AGP slot!?!?

Wasn't a PCI-E slot at all was it? Couldn't of been a regualr PCI slot they wouldn't make them anymore would they?

11-24-2004, 09:22 AM
Good to hear Wade. Sure miss flying with ya. You always made great missions.

11-24-2004, 09:34 AM
I'm with Nige. U sure it wasn't PCI-Express slots?
A 2.8 P4 sold without an AGP slot just seems too weird.
Must've had PCI-Express slot.

11-24-2004, 09:38 AM
if it did have a pcix slot in it, you just shot yourself in the foot and payed for a downgrade http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

11-24-2004, 09:50 AM
lots of oem computers still come with no agp slot. Its sad but true. Go look inside an e-machines. My buddy bought one, he was all proud of his new 3ghz PIV computer. Then I explained that the intergrated graphics and the 256 meg of ram would not play the new HL2 game he bought with it. We looked inside and he had only 3 pci slots (one already filled with a cheap modem) and no agp slot. SOL, time to return it, whoops,. best buy wants 20% restocking fee. Not very nice of them, is that?

11-24-2004, 09:59 AM
Time to call one of em Sopranos guys. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

11-24-2004, 10:03 AM
It brought a tear to my eye's when I fired up my first mission as well.

11-24-2004, 10:09 AM
I avoid store bought computer for that very reason. Many of them, especially those on sale or have really good prices, have on board sound and video with no provision for disablement and replacement with real video and sound cards. Even if they did, by the time I bought upgraded cards it would no longer be much of a bargain. I just buy all the parts and put them together. It isn't nearly as hard as it used to be now that plug-n-play actually works.

11-24-2004, 10:25 AM
I hear ya, a friend of mine gave me her less than 2y/o PC, cool. I wanted it to replace my old Gateway P3 933 till the new Athon64 939/PCI Express stuff I've been waiting for comes out. Turns out it's an e-machines 1.8Ghz Celeron with PCI slots only, no AGP, it sucks! I posted both system specs on a couple of tech sites and was informed I would actually be 'downgrading' to use the newer PC!, bummer.

.....Oh, I left out the best part, my old P3 933 finally took a dump last night, it's porked. Now I'm stuck with the pee-machines for a while, I dont think it's even worth loading PF onto it, oh the humanity!


11-24-2004, 01:50 PM
Yea, I am now convinced that we, who at least know something about PCs simply through these forums and being fans of IL2 now have a distinct advantage over the standard public who just buy whatever`s on sale at a store.

In fact, I believe Stores actively target the `standard knows nothing about PCs` buyers because they`re not as fussy and easily deceived. Even if something`s wrong, the standard customer`s not going to notice until too late or think it`s their own fault!

11-24-2004, 03:43 PM
Most definitely on that, Seafire. I bought my new mobo based on info gleaned directly from these posts. Furthered it all looking things up on the various PC mags around. Two weeks prior to the release date, I came home with a P4 3.2GHz, 1Gb RAM, and an X300SE (hey... i didn't have all the money in the world http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif).

I late thx to all the PC-savvy types passing on their experience and advice.

11-24-2004, 04:43 PM
Yeah, Seafire, I know what you mean. I've made myself a name amongst my PC-illiterate friends and work-mates by helping them buying and installing their rigs. I'm just the run-of-the-mill FB nerd around here, but they consider me a kind of ultimate megabrained cybergenius or something. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It's a good way to earn points with the chicks, you know. "Don't worry, I'll go to your home and install it, and then I'll explain you the basics. You just put beers in the fridge..." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If I let them choose alone, they'll likely be cheated by the common 'hard cheek' retail boy with an unsold relic in the store... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

11-24-2004, 04:59 PM

Great to hear of your good fortune. NowI will certainly echo tully, stangers, and others comments. Get back flying and dont be a stranger we got some cachin up to do.

<--- sends the monkey over with drinks while he takes some parts of your plane. Hmm ya really didnt need those wing bolts did ya? HHEHEHE Bet that will be a big suprise for ya when ya try to takeoff. :-))


11-24-2004, 10:36 PM
No agp slot on e-machines is not really true. I have an amd2400+ and when i bought it about 1 1/2 years ago for $469.00 came with an agp slot. You can buy the cheapo but ask if it has agp so you know , some do. Now if i could just get myself to upgrade my fx 5200 which cost me $39.00! If i wasn't such a cheapskate!!