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DIRTY-MAC
04-12-2005, 01:38 PM
In what order would you put these fighters in turnrate?

Many of these seems pretty close to eachother

Spit
Ki-84
Yak1
Yak3
Yak9
Hellcat
F4U
P-40
Lagg3
La-5
La-7
P-39
Bf109

Clan_Graham
04-12-2005, 02:27 PM
Do a Google search for HARDBALL'S AIRCRAFT VIEWER.
After you install it have a look around.
It does a side-by-side comparison of all the planes in the game.
Including turn rates.


BTW....I can't believe the P-40 made your list !!!!!!!! And the G6 !!!!!!!!!

Von_Zero
04-12-2005, 02:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Yak3
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Bf109 G6
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
lol? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

DIRTY-MAC
04-12-2005, 03:16 PM
yeah yeah I know what U mean http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

anyway

Ok what about only the "top turners" of them?

VW-IceFire
04-12-2005, 03:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DIRTY-MAC:
In what order would you put these fighters in turnrate?

Many of these seems pretty close to eachother

Spit
Ki-84
Yak1
Yak3
Yak9
Hellcat
F4U
P-40
Lagg3
La-5
La-7
P-39
Bf109 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In relative order (its very hard to say for sure):
Yak-3
La-7
Yak-9(some)
La-5
Spitfire
Bf109
Hellcat
Ki-84
P-39
F4U
Yak-1
P-40
Lagg-3

They are all decently good at continuous turns. Most of the late war versions are worse than the earlier models except the Yak-3 which is far better than the 9 which is better than the 1.

ElAurens
04-12-2005, 06:03 PM
The A6M2 would be very near the top...

But the real money is on the I 153....

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ImpStarDuece
04-12-2005, 06:10 PM
Monowing: nothing beats the Ki-43-1a. And I mean NOTHING. It will actually out turn some of the biplanes (CR.42 especially)

Biplane; Gladiator, provided you can keep a litttle speed up it will just keep on whipping around and around and around. Probably the best turner in the game.

I'd place a sizable bet on the Ki-84 out turning the Hellcat though, I got out turned in an FM-2 last night. Slow spped continous turn at about 300m. Thought that I could sucker the guy and use the FM-2 great turn rate but he was in firing position after about 2 revolutions.

EnGaurde
04-12-2005, 06:18 PM
yeah ive chopped many a hellcat outta the sky with the ki84.

no contest.

DIRTY-MAC
04-13-2005, 03:51 AM
I looked at Hardballs aircraft weiwer
and found that many of those I mentioned above are very similar in turn, but I must say that I don´t know how much to trust the weiwer, because many things in it seems a bit off,
how excact is it in game, regarding the fighters that I mentioned above?

whitetornado_1
04-13-2005, 06:20 AM
If you read FLIGHT JOURNALS special edition
on SPITFIRES (summer 2005)
Comparing the Spitfire Vs Hurricane issue on page 26 last paragraph righthand corner the
Hurricane had a smaller turn radius than the
Spitfire.

Sure would be nice to have the 40mm cannon
and rocket combo the Hurricane had. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

http://www.flightjournal.com/fj/index.asp

439th_Wtornado http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VFA-195 Snacky
04-13-2005, 10:06 AM
P38

CAPT_COTTON
04-13-2005, 10:50 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

I153 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif
I153
i153
I153
KI43 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And iam sticking to it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Atomic_Marten
04-13-2005, 12:51 PM
Gladiator J8A will eat everything in turn (I must admit that I didnt try it against human ctrled P11). By far. KI43? Nope..
I've play one pacific map online on UK_dedicated, and must say that I have catched KI43s while in Gladiator in 2 turns (average)..http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif -- I figure that it is becuse of course, J8A has smaller turn radius on normal combat speed, but also even much smaller turn radius on *very low speed* compared to KI43..

About continuous turning with specific aircraft, I really can not tell for sure (if excluded biplanes and P11C), but I would try first with LA7 for sure (maybe Spit and also Yak3 have and initial advantage, maybe smaller turn radius in first few turns, but it is doubtfull who is winner after first, lets say 4 turns, when all energy is worn)..

Wilburnator
04-13-2005, 03:29 PM
The Gladiator seems best to me. I love the Ki43, and it turns wickedly tight, but tighter than a Gladiator? Not with me at the controls at any rate, lol.

DIRTY-MAC
04-13-2005, 06:40 PM
these planes I knowv for shur out turn almosty everything but what about those I posted

Daiichidoku
04-14-2005, 12:36 AM
best turner is J8

best monoplane turner is Ki43
then A6M2/M3
then....
surprise surprise...the Go-229!

Badsight.
04-14-2005, 01:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DIRTY-MAC:
I looked at Hardballs aircraft weiwer
and found that many of those I mentioned above are very similar in turn, but I must say that I don´t know how much to trust the weiwer, because many things in it seems a bit off,
how excact is it in game, regarding the fighters that I mentioned above? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>it has very little to do with how FB plays

raaaid
04-15-2005, 04:40 AM
the best turner in proportion with speed is the la7

holded turning rate is better with flaps on in this plane which is contradictory with reality

same for the yak

in reality russian planes wouldnt outturn so well the 109 because other else there wouldnt have been such scores for the germans

WB_Outlaw
04-15-2005, 05:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by raaaid:
in reality russian planes wouldnt outturn so well the 109 because other else there wouldnt have been such scores for the germans <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In reality, turning performance had little to do with WW II air combat.

Also, just because the enemy in front of you is turning doesn't mean he knows you are there and is trying to evade you. That's why combat reports of "this aircraft out turned that aircraft" are 99.99999999999% useless.

-Outlaw.

WOLFMondo
04-15-2005, 06:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by raaaid:
the best turner in proportion with speed is the la7 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really?!? The La7 at higher speeds doesn't turn particularly well at all.

Badsight.
04-15-2005, 06:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by raaaid:
in reality russian planes wouldnt outturn so well the 109 because other else there wouldnt have been such scores for the germans <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>wow dude , just wow

best turn time for the Yak-3 was 17 seconds

best turn time for La-7s was 17-18 seconds

best turning Bf109 was the f4 = 19 seconds , over 2 seconds slower & all other models didnt turn as good as the F4

the high Scores the German Aces got during WW2 had little to do with how we play this game

raaaid
04-15-2005, 07:44 AM
what are your sources to say that numbers

russians will say their planes were better and germans will say the same about theirs and this is a russian game

heres an interesting independent view:

http://freespace.virgin.net/john.dell/spitcom.htm

what seems amazing to me is how people is so faithfull as to belive that this game is so realistic that reality must have been the game way when truly this game is very far from reality in many aspects

and that is not help to improve the game

Badsight.
04-15-2005, 07:51 AM
lol that web-page , no Bf109 ever out-turned its same year Spitfire

if you think that I think this game is realistic then guess again

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>russians will say their planes were better and germans will say the same about theirs <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>ahh yes but better in what way >?

the late war La's & Yaks were the best turning late war fighters at low alt , im not saying at high speed but at their best turn speed , which is where the best turn figures come from

please give up the view the Bf109s were dominant turners , theres no reason at all to believe it . & please dont see how FB plays & try & relate it to RL combat during WW2