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SlowBurn68
03-07-2008, 10:12 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-W5-ZN0l9io

Airmail109
03-07-2008, 10:20 AM
Nahhhh we dont hate you guys, its all in jest

roybaty
03-07-2008, 10:41 AM
I actually think a lot of people agree with this and I'm American. Fit an finish are issues for American vehicles, plus waaay to many have large vehicle they don't need. If you're someone who hauls stuff on a daily basis, for instance a contractor, that's all fine and dandy.

Some one where I work bought a Ridgerunner, it's freakin' huge and there is no reason she needs it. It annoys the hell outta me. If you don't need a HUGE vehicle why get one?

gizmo60
03-07-2008, 10:43 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

ploughman
03-07-2008, 10:59 AM
You see alot of these:

http://www.grosvenorgarage.co.uk/images/warrior_001.jpg

On the roads of the UK at the moment, partly because their design means they are tax (http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/newl200/van_tax.asp) efficient. While they might not be the size of an F150, they're still boats.

SeaNorris
03-07-2008, 11:06 AM
Also its something of a recurring thing in Top Gear, definitely something that works in the show anyway!

Cajun76
03-07-2008, 11:11 AM
I would comment but I'm too busy fending off bear attacks and eating only one of three kinds of bread in the US.....

BUGGER OFF, BEAR!!

SeaFireLIV
03-07-2008, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by roybaty:
Some one where I work bought a Ridgerunner, it's freakin' huge and there is no reason she needs it. It annoys the hell outta me. If you don't need a HUGE vehicle why get one?

Guess it ain`t just men who need big show-off sex symbols then.

As for the thread title... It`s the English tongue of cheek jesting. And yet, I know some abroad will watch this and still say `F U` to the rest of us , cos they`ll take it all way too personally. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
03-07-2008, 11:16 AM
Wow, thats really cool looking, why don't we get cool vehicles like that in the states. I agree that you should buy the kind of vehicle you need, and no bigger. I hear eveyone complaining about how much they spend on gas and how they want to get a smaller vehicle, and then when they do get a new one it's some other big monstrosity! WTF m8?! I drive an 84 Pontiac Fiero, very fuel efficient, my fiance drives an '08 Mitsubishi Lancer that is also fuel efficient. We had a 2000 Chevy Blazer that ate gas like for breakfast, lunch, dinner and every hobbit meal in between. We don't miss it a bit, lol.

Rjel
03-07-2008, 11:51 AM
I disagree about fit and finish on American made vehicles, at least as an across the board statement. I bought a new Chevy pickup last fall as did my brother in law. Both trucks are, IMO, the best made vehicles we've bought. Head and shoulders above the junk made in the late 70s and early 80s.

DuxCorvan
03-07-2008, 12:30 PM
Well, I don't know how's that seen outta Spain, but, here, specially in the eighties, American cars were normally only seen in movies and we all loathed their looks. I mean, they were huge blocky things with laaarge hoods and trunks. I hated those enormous metal surfaces (What were they for? Sleeping on them? Landing choppers?), and I assumed it sure was too easy to park anywhere in the USA, for I could not park one of those wheeled platforms in my city in a million years. I guess it was like in the movies: they always find a suitable parking right in front of the door of anywhere they go.

Fortunately, American cars have evolved a lot since then, and now are much more attractive -and rational looking- than the steel-sheet-fest of the 70s and 80s. But I hate pickups, vans and SUVs.

With the time, I've learned to hate also the typical Euro egg-shaped small city cars which look like sized-up Isettas. I feel like a sucker when driving them.

I also dislike the automatic transmission of the American cars. I know it works just fine, and that it makes much easier to learn driving, but, hey, I'm used to manage transmission on my own: I like the sensation of control -just like using CEM in Il-2.

Pirschjaeger
03-07-2008, 12:51 PM
One word: Git

Don't worry about what that show host says. He's a git.

But there are a few points to make about N.A. cars in general. Personally I find many to be a waste of space. Yes, I've often complained about the interior and inconsistency of the jams.

My first Eurocar was a Saab. My last N.A car was the one before the Saab. Personally I prefer Eurocars.

But I should point out to Europeans that N,A. cars have a special place in N.A. culture. No one asked for an efficient vehicle.

Urufu_Shinjiro
03-07-2008, 01:10 PM
Yes, we do sort of have an unconcious desire to be steve mcqueen and race our 600hp cars around town, lol. I mean, who else but americans would make a drag racing chevetee FFS!
http://www.classicchevysusa.com/carpics/sands-chevette.jpg

Pirschjaeger
03-07-2008, 01:15 PM
http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/FritzFranzen/Pinto.jpg

Breeze147
03-07-2008, 01:32 PM
I have a '99 Dodge Dakota, 4x4, extended cab. Ol' Blue. Bought her brand new. Love her to death. You have live in the American south to understand.

han freak solo
03-07-2008, 01:47 PM
"...if this were America it'd be full of people doing whatever it is they do ... incest mostly..."

Harsh. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Considering the US population is over 300 million and the UK population is over 60 million, the odds should be in favor of the Americans committing a wee bit lest incest than ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

roybaty
03-07-2008, 02:11 PM
Do you haul stuff around with it as a routine? I'm not against people owning large vehicles so much as people owning them without a real need.

As for it being a southern thing, we have plenty of large SUVs/pickups here in the Northeast.


Originally posted by Breeze147:
I have a '99 Dodge Dakota, 4x4, extended cab. Ol' Blue. Bought her brand new. Love her to death. You have live in the American south to understand.

I_KG100_Prien
03-07-2008, 02:15 PM
Well, the stereotypes are there for a reason.. People live them every day. Why not make fun of it?

I'm sure every one of us Americans has seen some Hummer H2 (god I hate those things) rolling around with 22 inch rims, and low profile tires. Vehicles that are advertised as, and supposed to be about off road driving being rendered incapable of such. Further being driven by someone who doesn't know what 4x4 (or 4WD) stands for.

How many of us have seen some idiot in a 4WD SUV /Pickup sitting in a snow drift by the side of the road? Stuck there because they think that 4WD means they can still do 75MPH when there is snow and ice on the ground. They don't know that it's about more control, not more traction...

Then there are the people who drive some high performance Muscle/Sports car who will never take it to a track.

What it boils down to is folks drive what they like even if it makes sense or not. However, it is a good source for some cheeky humor. It's funny because its TRUE.

TheGozr
03-07-2008, 02:16 PM
n 2005, the population of Europe was 728 million or 11% of the world population. It has been growing from 500 million after World War II, peaked in the early 2000s at more than 700 million and has since then begun a decline.

Cajun76
03-07-2008, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
"...if this were America it'd be full of people doing whatever it is they do ... incest mostly..."

Harsh. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Considering the US population is over 300 million and the UK population is over 60 million, the odds should be in favor of the Americans committing a wee bit lest incest than ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Thank goodness for family reunions. On the first Saturday in April I'll be down to DeQuincy for one. Good times, good times.

Airmail109
03-07-2008, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
"...if this were America it'd be full of people doing whatever it is they do ... incest mostly..."

Harsh. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Considering the US population is over 300 million and the UK population is over 60 million, the odds should be in favor of the Americans committing a wee bit lest incest than ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

No but you see Han, we're all compact into one little area so we have lots to choose from.

You guys are spread out over a far larger area http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

ploughman
03-07-2008, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
...

You guys are spread out over a far larger area http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Not at all, some Americans are quite svelt.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Clarkson's an opinionated twit who loves to take a stereotype and bend it, but he's the funniest thing on TV.

Pirschjaeger
03-07-2008, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:

No but you see Han, we're all compact into one little area so we have lots to choose from.

You guys are spread out over a far larger area http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Now you know why they have pickups with gun racks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Low_Flyer_MkIX
03-07-2008, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:
...

You guys are spread out over a far larger area http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Not at all, some Americans are quite svelt.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Clarkson's an opinionated twit who loves to take a stereotype and bend it,... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. You Americans ought to hear his one-liners about German sat nav.

MB_Avro_UK
03-07-2008, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aimail101:

No but you see Han, we're all compact into one little area so we have lots to choose from.

You guys are spread out over a far larger area http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Now you know why they have pickups with gun racks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've taken the liberty to alter your sig PJ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"Borders, although illusory in nature, are made reality by ignorance,prejudice and politicians."

And don't take the Clarkson guy seriously. He has similar things to say about European cars. But it's humour and he can be entertaining at times.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

R_Target
03-07-2008, 05:25 PM
It's the pioneering Wild West spirit...for a pioneering Wild West stallion.

LMAO. Who writes this stuff?

SlowBurn68
03-07-2008, 05:28 PM
I have owned nothing but Volkswagen's all my life - But I do think that American made cars and trucks have come a long way from days of the K-car and Pinto.

In fact - I wouldn't mind owning a Chrysler 300.

http://imgs.idnes.cz/ak_aktual/A031229_SAM_1024CHRYSLER300C01_N.JPG

Dance
03-07-2008, 05:29 PM
As Aimail wrote really, don't take yourselves so seriously, everyone gets to be the butt of a joke sometimes.

SlowBurn68
03-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Dance:
As Airmail wrote really, don't take yourselves so seriously, everyone gets to be the butt of a joke sometimes.

Sorry about the post title - I know it's all in jest.

ploughman
03-07-2008, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by SlowBurn68:
I have owned nothing but Volkswagen's all my life - But I do think that American made cars and trucks have come a long way from days of the K-car and Pinto.

In fact - I wouldn't mind owning a Chrysler 300.

http://imgs.idnes.cz/ak_aktual/A031229_SAM_1024CHRYSLER300C01_N.JPG

Everytime I see one of those I keep on thinking, 'hey, a Bentley...OMFG!'

Dance
03-07-2008, 05:33 PM
The French get a pretty hard time too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Badsight-
03-07-2008, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
You see alot of these:

http://www.grosvenorgarage.co.uk/images/warrior_001.jpg

On the roads of the UK at the moment, partly because their design means they are tax (http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/newl200/van_tax.asp) efficient. While they might not be the size of an F150, they're still boats.
the humble L200 & Hilux

they have been changed into what they are because thats whats sells

marketers & designers decide what new cars are going to be like

if you could see the first 2WD model Hilux next to the latest F150 wannabee 2WD model , you would be surprised by the size differance

& those huge panels cost a Fortune when you dent them . that is , heaven forbid , you actually left tar seal whilst driving them

people end up getting what they deserve - they want to be in a larger taller 'car' than everyone else . makes them feel "safer"

roybaty
03-07-2008, 08:43 PM
Every time the market declines so does my IRA, seeing cars I can't afford makes me consider a govt. job. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

mortoma
03-08-2008, 05:46 AM
I'm american and I don't buy hugemongous vehicles. Problem here is that people, especially men, think that a vehicle they buy has to convey their manhood or be an extension of their sexual image. I have never thought that so I buy small, fuel efficient cars. I don't have to buy a huge truck because I think it's more "macho" or a sporty fuel gussler because it will impress others. I am not trying to compensate for a small *****, never have had to do that because I'm not insecure like most american males. I know lots of guys that have huge redneck pickup trucks that never haul more than their groceries!!

I just bought a new Honda Civic LX Sedan, my first mileage test netted me 38.1 miles per gallon with mostly highway driving. Heck, even the color of it is not all that "manly". But I don't care.

horseback
03-08-2008, 02:46 PM
I've owned a couple of pickups, and a few small and medium sized cars, and I like pickups more.

Why? When you need to carry a big load, or something that won't fit in a car, it's right there. It's a job asset for a man who sometimes has to carry test equipment or tools to a remote jobsite.

On the road, people see you. You rarely have to worry about some numbskull failing to yield right of way. A pickup that hasn't been washed since 1999 tells the roadhog that I won't care nearly as much as he will if he runs into me with his freshly polished two year old Lexus.

There's also the view. You're above the roofline of most of the cars on the rosd, and you can see what's going on ahead of you in plenty of time to protect yourself, especially in heavy traffic conditions. Another facet of it is the safety of sheer size. You'll 'win' most collisions.

Finally, there's only enough room in the cab for me and my ****. Hardly anybody I know would think of calling me up at the last second and asking me to pick them up for work when there are so many other guys who have nice clean seats in their Camrys and Accords...

cheers

horseback

JSG72
03-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Yeh!

The past few answers. Are fairly conclusive.

Now! Where is America?

Pirschjaeger
03-08-2008, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by JSG72:
Now! Where is America?

I believe it's still in this man's pocket.

http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/FritzFranzen/bush_turkey.jpg

M2morris
03-10-2008, 03:37 PM
I have a smaller-size truck; a Chevy S-10,4.6L Xtra cab with a ZR2 4X4 suspension, but I also have a Ford focus car that gets good mileage. Whenever I need to move something I have the truck to use, but the car is used most often.
As far as the video with the arogant host; I really think that the damaged interior of that F-150 was staged.
I once had a GMC truck that I had taken to Italy when I was in the military and let me say that the Italians looked at me in that thing like I was a freak from outer space or something. It was also nearly impossible to park the thing anywhere as the streets there are so narrow since the cities were designed with horse-drawn carts in mind before there were any cars. I finally bought a small Fiat 126 with a 650CC 2 cylinder engine and I putt-putted around in that little car with no problem. But once back in the States, my GMC truck was again able to fit in to the environment.

Whirlin_merlin
03-10-2008, 04:25 PM
Come on guys it's pure Clarkson, very tongue in cheek all that buisness about Britian being too sofisticated, expresso, fancy bread and whot not. Don't forget the final reason that it's not suitable for the UK is that some thieving little chav will nick your shopping from the back.
Please view it in the maner it's intended.

han freak solo
03-10-2008, 04:47 PM
That show is funny as h3ll whenever I happen to get to see it.

Just this weekend was one of the best ones I've seen, when the three imbeciles try to cross the English Channel in homemade amphibious vehicles.

The small pickup with the humongous outboard engine actually made it.

Good stuff there. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif