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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 03:25 AM
I'm sure this has made the rounds several times since Jan.1, but I just saw something that reminded me about the Wright Bros. Contraption that flew at Kittyhawk...
Since aviation in General is such an amazing thing, and has advanced so fast in thew past hundred years, I thought it would be interesting, to say the least, to hear what you out there think was the most influential aircraft ever.


My Picks: Sea:F9F Panther Land:B-17 General:Of course, the Wright Flyer. Thanks in advance for any replies! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 03:25 AM
I'm sure this has made the rounds several times since Jan.1, but I just saw something that reminded me about the Wright Bros. Contraption that flew at Kittyhawk...
Since aviation in General is such an amazing thing, and has advanced so fast in thew past hundred years, I thought it would be interesting, to say the least, to hear what you out there think was the most influential aircraft ever.


My Picks: Sea:F9F Panther Land:B-17 General:Of course, the Wright Flyer. Thanks in advance for any replies! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The Young Lions in the Forest suffer and lack, But thoser who know the Lord Shall not want of any good thing. Keep your tongue from Evil and your lips from speaking deciet. Depart from evil, do good and pursue it!

>Psalms

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 03:33 AM
Don't forget the 14 Bis and Santos Dumont..../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



Brazil Salutt !

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 03:33 AM
Hard call.
Let's see, there coud be the Il2, it was the most produced A/C ever, and had a great part in the war, there could be the Me262, for already known reasons, but IMHO, the 109. Can't tell ya why, just like that.
General, .. well, except the Flyer, I think it was the "Coanda 1910", It was the first jet, created ofcourse by Henry Coanda).

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 03:35 AM
Either the Curtiss pusher, JN-4 or the Me 262.

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 03:42 AM
Saylor_BR2 wrote:
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- Don't forget the 14 Bis and Santos Dumont
Don't mean to be rude ,but more exactly what Santos Dumont did?

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 04:26 AM
http://www.farthestshots.com/photos/apollo/apollo16/schede/A019.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 04:29 AM
Say, HAL shouldn't you be turned of right at the moment? Wait for your reactivation in 2010, will you. And no, this picture of yours does not count as a plane. Bad AI, bad, bad AI.

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 04:34 AM
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/x15/image2.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 04:53 AM
Regarding Santos Dumont, he did the first powered flight that actually took off on its owm power, not being assisted by catapult launches or similar things... The plane tas the 14-bis.



Ja te atendo, Tche!

Message Edited on 07/13/0301:54AM by dolfo-NK

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 05:06 AM
X15
B17
Me262
B29
Mig30
Fokker Dr1
Gotha BOmber(ww1)
The blimp
Spruce Goose
B-2 Spirit
F-4 Phantom

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 05:37 AM
dolfo-NK wrote:
- Regarding Santos Dumont, he did the first powered
- flight that actually took off on its owm power, not
- being assisted by catapult launches or similar
- things... The plane tas the 14-bis.


Hmm, not really. Traian Vuia was the first to succed an autonomous take-off, six months before Santos-Dumont.

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 05:51 AM
What about Lindbergh's Ryan N.Y.P.?

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 06:04 AM
Huckebein_FW wrote:
- dolfo-NK wrote:
-- Regarding Santos Dumont, he did the first powered
-- flight that actually took off on its owm power, not
-- being assisted by catapult launches or similar
-- things... The plane tas the 14-bis.
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- Hmm, not really. Traian Vuia was the first to succed
- an autonomous take-off, six months before
- Santos-Dumont.
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Can I know where you read that exactly?

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 06:56 AM
F1NaZZ1 wrote:
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- Can I know where you read that exactly?


There is plenty of info on the web, but try this page, it has nice details about the plane.

http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/vuia.html

Vuia used for control the incidence of the wing, which was the main quality and problem of the plane: getting an correct AoA for a sustainable flight. First plane Vuia1 did not have enough wing area though, problem corrected in Vuia2.

XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 07:06 AM
Which plane had the most influence on history?

I would say the Hawker Hurricane.


Which plane had the most influence on future aircraft?

I would say the Me-262 because I believe it influenced future designs of the U.S. and USSR.

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 08:25 PM
Huckebein_FW wrote:
- dolfo-NK wrote:
-- Regarding Santos Dumont, he did the first powered
-- flight that actually took off on its owm power, not
-- being assisted by catapult launches or similar
-- things... The plane tas the 14-bis.
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- Hmm, not really. Traian Vuia was the first to succed
- an autonomous take-off, six months before
- Santos-Dumont.
Very Correct. Unfortunately, his flight wasn't oficially recognized, cuz, the oficials that should be present didn't arrive and Vuia decided to take off without their presence.



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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 10:46 PM
what about the morane saulnier monoplane flew by roland garros in 1915. the very first plane that used synchronised
machineguns that fired through the propellor and changed aircombat drasticaly.

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