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WolfK33
04-12-2005, 12:29 AM
Last night I kind of stumbled over this one while zapping channels, a german black and white WWII Sub movie from 1957 called "Haie und kleine Fische" (Sharks and little fish).

It tells the story of a young Kriegsmarine cadet who begins his career in 1940 aboard a minesweeper wich gets sunk in the english channel. There´s a little side-story about him falling in love with the minesweeper-flottila commander´s wife.
When his ship is sunk he saves the flotilla-commanders life, who a little later in the hospital finds out about the cadets love to his wife. After leaving hospital the cadet, now a F¤hnrich, get´s transferred to a U-Boot (a Typ VII apparently, no number told) who´s Captain is an old friend of the minesweeper-flotillas commander, wich makes for some severe tensions between them. Won´t tell you the ending here as not to spoil it for those of you who don´t know and want to watch it.

Now, don´t let all that love-story stuff above fool you !

The movie starts out looking like a pretty typical 1950´s german comedy/romantic movie, wich almost made me zap away again if not for the WWII naval-theme and the lack of anything better on TV, but pretty quickly turns into a grim (anti-) war-movie, at the latest after the cadets transfer to the sub.

But what makes this one not only a good but great war-movie is that almost all the battle-scenes are real-life WWII footage, cut into the played scenes so well that they really fit and you almost don´t notice.
There are really great shots, like for example one of U-47 ("my" boat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) with the snorting bull on the tower surfacing, Mosquitos dropping torps, torpedo-hits on merchant-vessels, waterbomb and hedgehog runs and so on...

The played scenes are also very realistic, and historically pretty accurate.

One funny thing is, at one time in the movie while they´re stationed in france the U-Boot´s officers spend an evening in a place I´m 98.7% sure is the same place the legendary party at the beginning of Das Boot took place...

I hope I didn´t bore you, but I´ve never heard of this movie before, and keeping in mind that it´s from 1957, when there almost wasn´t such as thing as "special effects" this one is right up there with Das Boot for me.

And please excuse my not so good english this morning, but I´m just coming off a 14h night shift (Yes, I got a job where you can watch submarine movies on duty sometimes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) and really gotta go to sleep now...

So, do yourselve´s a favor and watch this movie.

Night,

Wolf

http://www.unzeit.de/poster/Haie_und_kleine_Fische/Haie_und_kleine_Fische_150.jpg

TASKFORCE1x1
04-12-2005, 12:52 AM
Kewl http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

NietzscheMadMan
04-12-2005, 01:13 AM
Too bad I don't read sub-titles. Guess I'll just have to learn to speak German.

But, there's not enough room in the brain so I'm going to have to dump Spanish or ancient Greek. I live in the American midwest, so Spanish comes in handy and I'm a philosophy student so ancient Greek is important...

Darn. Why can't foreigners just talk American?

Just kidding. I'm going to check this one out.

WolfK33
04-12-2005, 07:32 AM
Oh,no english version available ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Ugh,ancient Greek, I had the "pleasure" of having to learn this (without success I have to say)from 9th to 11th grade... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif until moving to another state and so having to change school "saved" me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
But those few fragments of it that are left, combined with the (fragments of) ancient Latin (5th to 11th grade...) came in handy learning all those medical terms in paramedic-school...

But as a philosophy student you will like the movies protagonist, he and his buddy love philosophy, especially discussing Schopenhauer´s view on the women when they´re loaded... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

GertFroebe
04-12-2005, 07:50 AM
Erich Topp was the professionl advisor for this movie.

Cpt-Arild
04-12-2005, 10:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NietzscheMadMan:
Too bad I don't read subsub-titles.
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sub-titles....sub...submarine..lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WolfK33
04-13-2005, 12:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cpt-Arild:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NietzscheMadMan:
Too bad I don't read _sub_sub-titles.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


sub-titles....sub...submarine..lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A really sub-perb sub-titled sub-marine movie whose sub-stance is the depiction of sub-merged naval warfare with a sub-standard sub-plot about a sub-ordinate sailors love-problems with not much relevance to the movie´s sub-jacent sub-ject. Watch it. Sub-ito!

Aaaahhh, stop it !!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

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govnar
04-13-2005, 03:48 AM
I fell asleep somewhere in the middle of film, although I would have loved to see it completely. What happened to that dude that was flirting with his superior's wife? Plus, there was one sailor that quite disrespectfully pointed out the captain's (?) foolish actions when they got attacked during the first waves. What happened to him? The storyline was not that bad, ... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DR-DirtyHarry
04-13-2005, 06:08 AM
i have to look out for that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif