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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:11 PM
This is total BS UBI.

a dedicated server is susposed to be able to run from a local station via direct IP

I want to host games on my server not UBI's junky things that will not let me do so behind a router.

Heck even Red Baron had a dedicated server abilty!

This community has stuck by you inspite of your total unwilingness to provide a simple item.. SERVICE!!!!

This commuity needs to have a dedicated server software that alows us to host via Direct IP and do CO-Ops etc.

WE don't want to use your junky site we want to host on real computers that can actually provide bandwidth and a more stable connection.

300 megs and 9 hours wasted downloading more junk from your site.

I suspose today you will put out a note stating Opps we uploaded the wrong file our bad. here is another 300 meg download for you sorry.


Get it in gear UBI or give it up!! your making OLEG look bad!!!!


L8r

Spot-Off

anyways the post monitors will scrub this message so it says UBI is great and not let this truth out.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:11 PM
This is total BS UBI.

a dedicated server is susposed to be able to run from a local station via direct IP

I want to host games on my server not UBI's junky things that will not let me do so behind a router.

Heck even Red Baron had a dedicated server abilty!

This community has stuck by you inspite of your total unwilingness to provide a simple item.. SERVICE!!!!

This commuity needs to have a dedicated server software that alows us to host via Direct IP and do CO-Ops etc.

WE don't want to use your junky site we want to host on real computers that can actually provide bandwidth and a more stable connection.

300 megs and 9 hours wasted downloading more junk from your site.

I suspose today you will put out a note stating Opps we uploaded the wrong file our bad. here is another 300 meg download for you sorry.


Get it in gear UBI or give it up!! your making OLEG look bad!!!!


L8r

Spot-Off

anyways the post monitors will scrub this message so it says UBI is great and not let this truth out.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:22 PM
I won't be as critical but I will agree that a dedicated server is supposed to be able to run from a local station via direct IP.
That's why Half-Life one is still out there and being played to date!



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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:19 PM
I am afraid I have to agree with this one.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:26 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't UBI shoot themselves in the foot with the 1.01b patch, first? As I understand, that made hosting (through the game) tricky for direct IP, tricky for HL, and more reliant on GameSpy or UBI Lobby, right?

So this latest bullsh!t is just that original problem compounded, isn't it?

Oh, and GameSpy? UBI, get real.

Sorry I'm not more versed in the dedicated server. I stopped playing this piece of sh!t after they mangled it and I became unable to run my scripted server maps. I don't mind tweaking stuff but there's not enough hours in the day to keep up with the f_ckups UBI's putting out lately so I gave up, hoping they'd one day fix it. That was months ago.



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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:27 PM
I play RvS and that has Coop against AI but how would this work in IL2FB ? I still can't get to grips with it.

Scripted DogFights no problem but COOP can someone tell me how it would work i.e. would it be triggered to FLY when enough ppl joined or would it be a rolling WWII scenario and change map if all the objectives were complete ?

BTW - Thank god its UBI that stinks I thought it was my feet phew.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:29 PM
You are WRONG Spot_On!

Its 320 Mb to download!
And it's getting tragic, what was so hard to understand and respect about the users wish for a dedicated server? Marketing and account clearly had a finger in this decision. The users wont take kindly to this that's for sure.

Master

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:30 PM
YES UBI DOES STINK (LIKE ME) well hippo lobby has more peolpe than ubi only resson why i go to ubi is friends

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 05:23 PM
Why should I want a dedicated server if I can't make it work in a LAN without the stuff going to walk through Internet? It's the same we had before, minus the hosting PC. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Thank you for the software, but... what a bluff. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Thank God I didn't download that thing. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 05:37 PM
Oleg has said it works irrespective of Ubi.com. Now I haven't DL'ed it (only 1 PC so no good to me) but could it be you guys haven't set it up right?

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 05:46 PM
If it came with a decent read me maybe we could see if it was set up right lol...

every guru i heard tried it could get it to buzz...


S!

Thanks Ian.

Spot on

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 06:17 PM
ianboys wrote:
- Oleg has said it works irrespective of Ubi.com. Now
- I haven't DL'ed it (only 1 PC so no good to me) but
- could it be you guys haven't set it up right?
-
- _____________
- Ian Boys
- =38=Tatarenko
- Kapitan - 38. OIAE
-

No, you cant bypass the ubi.com service, no way. If you try to join via direct IP in multiplayer mode you get the following error message:

"Connection attempt to remote host failed. reason: Only TREE network structure is supported."

And since hosting via router does not work at ubi.com for many people the server is just useless.

The hosting via router problem was introduced at ubi,com when 1.1b came out. It also affects people using ICS or with more than 1 network card installed, see also:
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=yyjuv
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_ts&id=zwefm
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_ts&id=zwefj


schofei

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 06:39 PM
I just hpe they don't pull this kind of crap with the add on.
The ZUIKAKU SENTOKI TAI could be torpedoing your ship next.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 07:33 PM
Can I just get this right....

This dedicated Server HAS to run through an online service and won't work on a private LAN?

That is crazy, surely not! That means theres no LAN parties.

There must have been a mistake.



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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 07:52 PM
Cpt-Madcowz wrote:
- Can I just get this right....
-
- This dedicated Server HAS to run through an online
- service and won't work on a private LAN?
-
- That is crazy, surely not! That means theres no LAN
- parties.
-
- There must have been a mistake.


I would love to say "You is wrong", but you got it right.

Even if you want to run the so called "Deditcated" Server on a private LAN, the Server and the Clients have to go through ubi.com.

Silly but true!

schofei



Message Edited on 09/24/0306:52PM by schofei

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 09:08 PM
Sounds like some marketing-types forced the release. I'd rather just run a 1.1b server without sound and with minimal gfx settings.
PS. Haven't tried the d.server yet, and probably won't. I dloaded it alright but thank god I did it at work.


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:13 AM
ianboys wrote:
- Oleg has said it works irrespective of Ubi.com. Now
- I haven't DL'ed it (only 1 PC so no good to me) but
- could it be you guys haven't set it up right?

Ian I have to say the documentation with it is well below an acceptable standard - there appears to be no way to launch it apart from going through UBI.

I have to agree with the others this looks like a complete non event and a major disappointment. I had our provider at Netwings ready to go with dedicated machines and plenty of bandwidth for servers but I currently have NO intention of proceeding with the idea.


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:18 AM
those are harsh words for such a dumb want, but sill it would be neat to have. but alot of times i cant get dedicated servers to work. you can still fly direct through IP (have to give/get IP from/to people though but it works great)

well my name was spelled wrong

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 04:49 AM
That is not the worst of it. UBI has capped there player connections at 16 players over at UBI.
You must use UBI game service and are limited to only 16 players.
No direct IP, no hyperlobby.
I really do appreciate the effort UBI but I am truly surprised by this. I must say that I am dissapointed. I only hope that the third party people can figure out how to "tweak" this and make it "fully functional.



Message Edited on 09/25/0312:51AM by Targ

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 05:28 AM
OMG!

You guys really are cowboys!

Why dont you make a thread that says:

"Is there anyway to make the dedicated server work i.e Hyperlobby plz plz?" ? ?

Maybe I´ll answer in that thread.
But you guys should be ashame of yourself, crybabies!

The dedicated server is a gift from god!
Is this the way it should be treated?

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YES you CAN host the dedicated server in hyperlobby or standalone.

If you seek, you shall find.

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 06:51 AM
pettergul are you going to let us know how or is there anything in the HL forums or on mudmovers?


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 06:55 AM
ianboys wrote:
- Oleg has said it works irrespective of Ubi.com. Now
- I haven't DL'ed it (only 1 PC so no good to me) but
- could it be you guys haven't set it up right?
-
- _____________
- Ian Boys
- =38=Tatarenko
- Kapitan - 38. OIAE
-

Didn't Oleg say they had agreement with Ubi so it's bound to their game-service? But I am sure it *can* run without it... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 06:59 AM
nt

Message Edited on 09/25/0306:13AM by Heuristic_ALgor

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 08:59 AM
Hehe, u go Petter! Keep them sweating, That's just fair when they are bashing something before they know any facts. That'll learn them a lesson /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Cheers mates, and rememeber... don't be rude


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:01 AM
Schoolyard/playground. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have a dedicated server hosted by a good gaming service with massive bandwidth waiting for this opportunity. And the only help I can find here are petty squabbles.

Clearly the "readme" is not sufficient, and as neither Peter nor anyone else, provided this "secret" information, I take it that it's not available.

Great shame to miss out on such an excellent opportunity.

Can't critise too much as I love the game and Dedicated Servers are not always easy to develop when they have so many variations to cover.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:39 AM
Gul as in Gulible

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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 12:10 PM
Petter Gul

I would really love to know how to host this without going through UBI.

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 04:35 PM
Petter_Gul wrote:
- OMG!
-
- You guys really are cowboys!
-
- Why dont you make a thread that says:
-
- "Is there anyway to make the dedicated server work
- i.e Hyperlobby plz plz?" ? ?
-
- Maybe I´ll answer in that thread.
- But you guys should be ashame of yourself,
- crybabies!
-
- The dedicated server is a gift from god!
- Is this the way it should be treated?
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- YES you CAN host the dedicated server in hyperlobby
- or standalone.
-
- If you seek, you shall find.
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
-
-
-
- /Petter_Gul
- CO, Flygflottilj 16
- #1 Swedish Virtual Squadron
- http://www.f16vs.tk
-
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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 05:56 PM
I have to agree with the negativity here. It seems like Ubisoft is strictly a "bu$ine$$" and only looks at it's customers as numbers\figures on charts and graphs not PEOPLE who have stood by them and bought their games from the beginning.

They have put out some truly great titles but their support for the software is more than lacking. It always seems like their intentions are good (see SH2) but the games never seem to reach their full potential because of other interests\deadlines.

I picture in my mind some guy named "Bill" head CEO of UBI who sits behind a desk in a room with walls covered in charts and graphs, papers stacked to the ceiling on his desk and not one thought of video games running through his mind, only bu$ine$$ decisions and deadlines. One can only wonder what LOMAC has in store for us...!!

There seems to be too large of a gap between the authors and the publisher. I truly believe 1C Maddox is ultimately dedicated to their IL-2 titles but they are seemingly losing the balancing act trying to deal both with UBI's deadlines and their customers wishes. An example of this would be the K4 rudder\P-47 roll rate issues.

Its too bad because Oleg doesnt have many other options. Both Microprose and SSI have gone under and I think I am correct when I say that UBISOFT is the only company that still publishes simulation game software for home computers. Lets be real folks, flight simulators and simulation games in general are not nearly as popular as they once were.