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PaulWF
07-03-2009, 02:32 PM
A small PDF on the P-40.

http://www.angelsandairspeed.c...wtopic.php?f=1&t=296 (http://www.angelsandairspeed.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=296)

Please note that I am running an IL2 1946 4.09 mod 1.1 server featuring this aircraft and the Zeke - both subject of the two latest 'in combat' PDF's.

Server name is : Zeke_vs_Warhawk
TS: ts.angelsandairspeed.com:8220 pw:aaa

Ba5tard5word
07-03-2009, 03:04 PM
Nice, I really enjoy reading these .pdf's you have made. They provide good general advice for the planes. I only recently began flying the P-40 and it really is a great plane.

PaulWF
07-03-2009, 03:13 PM
I've gotten tired of late war aircraft all the time - tends to end up being a drag race and also more forgiving energy management wise as you have better aircraft for getting it back.

I like the P-40 - but only against it's contemporaries where it stands a chance. Being able to tote a bomb on it is pretty good too.

ElAurens
07-03-2009, 04:30 PM
I might suggest not using the term "mercenary" to describe the American Volunteer Group.

Just a word to the wise.

PaulWF
07-03-2009, 05:04 PM
definition of the word mercenary(a): serving for wages in a foreign army;

American pilots being paid to fly for the Chinese army.

Bearcat99
07-03-2009, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
I might suggest not using the term "mercenary" to describe the American Volunteer Group.
Just a word to the wise.

That's what they were... mercenary is not a dirty word..

As for the P-40.. I like it as modeled in this sim... all variants... it is stable... has good guns... and like Paul said.. against it's contemporaries it is a formidable weapon.

WTE_Galway
07-03-2009, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:

As for the P-40.. I like it as modeled in this sim... all variants... it is stable... has good guns... and like Paul said.. against it's contemporaries it is a formidable weapon.

As it was in real life.

I have posted this following list before but it can't hurt to repost. In the hands of a competent pilot the P40 was a very viable fighter indeed:


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RAAF pilot Clive Caldwell's kill tally with the P40 before switching to Spitfires.

Note that quite a number of the kills are 109F's, two of these 109F's were flown by Knights Cross holders, the "non kill" slipped in between 18 and 19 is listed because the pilot (who got the plane home but later died of the wounds) was an experten with 69 kills ....



1 26/6/41 Bf 109 destroyed Capuzzo (a)

2 30/6/41 Bf 110 Destroyed (shared) off Tobruk (b)

3 30/6/41 Ju 87 Destroyed off Tobruk (c)

4 30/6/41 Ju 87 Destroyed off Tobruk

5 7/7/41 G.50 Destroyed Gazala

6 16/8/41 G.50 Destroyed (shared) Convoy patrol

7 29/8/41 Bf 109F Destroyed Sidi Barrani

8 27/9/41 Bf 109 Destroyed BuqBuq

9 28/9/41 Bf 109 Destroyed Bardia

10 23/11/41 Bf 109 Destroyed Tobruk

11 23/11/41 Bf 109 Destroyed Baheira (d)

12 5/12/41 Ju 87 Destroyed S El Adem

13 5/12/41 Ju 87 Destroyed S El Adem

14 5/12/41 Ju 87 Destroyed S El Adem

15 5/12/41 Ju 87 Destroyed S El Adem

16 5/12/41 Ju 87 Destroyed S El Adem

17 12/12/41 Bf 109 Destroyed Derna-Tmimi

18 20/12/41 Bf 109 Destroyed S Barce

... 24/12/41 Bf 109 Damaged (e)

19 21/2/42 Bf 109 Destroyed Derna-Gazala (f)

20 14/3/42 C.202 Destroyed NW Tobruk

21 14/3/42 C.202 Destroyed (shared) NW Tobruk

22 23/4/42 Bf 109 Destroyed Bir Hacheim



(a) Bf 109E of I/JG27, flown by Lt. Heinz Scmidt;

(b) Aircraft of III/ZG26;

(c) Ju87s of II/StG2, flown by Lt. Wagner and Uffz Walz;

(d) Leading Bf 109F of four; Hpt Wolfgang Lippert, Kommandeur of II/JG27 and Knight's Cross holder, bailed out;

(e) Bf 109F of III/JG27 damaged. Bullet hit Oblt Erbo Graf von Kageneck, 69 victory 'Experte' and Knight's Cross holder, who died of wounds in hospital on 12 Jan, 1942;

(f) Bf 109F of II/JG27; Lt Hans-Arnold Stahlschmidt crash landed;

CarlingWood
07-03-2009, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
I might suggest not using the term "mercenary" to describe the American Volunteer Group.
Just a word to the wise.

That's what they were... mercenary is not a dirty word..

As for the P-40.. I like it as modeled in this sim... all variants... it is stable... has good guns... and like Paul said.. against it's contemporaries it is a formidable weapon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


It should not be, but it is turning into one because of what is happening in Iraq. Truck towers and criminals charged with assault are being hired by different "Private Security" Companies over there. They have no ROE (Rules of Engagement". They are not effected by any laws, Iraqi or American. They often fire their weapons for fun; often killing innocent Iraqis without any consequences. These are the kind of people that is turning "Mercenary" or "Merc" into a dirty word. There is a man that is charged with assault in 2 different states. Now he earns 600 dollars an HOUR with a company called Crescent. No rules, no laws, no briefings. Weapons free, no consequences; a criminal.


lol sorry for the little lesson, but I think ElAurens is right, some family or descendant of the vets might be offended; after all they were very much soldiers and honorable people. They should not be described with the same word as criminals with ak that has no laws affecting them.

Trefle
07-04-2009, 03:21 AM
Thank you mate , i will read it cause i enjoy flying the P-40 from time to time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif