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Don_X
03-14-2006, 02:07 PM
Lots of ststs info and pictures at this site.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Don_X/FI/banner.gif (http://pratt.edu/%7Ersilva/sovwomen.htm)

CapBackassward
03-14-2006, 02:39 PM
Yes it is. Thanks.

I was a history major in college. One of the great things about the World Wide Web is that there are a lot of excellent history pages from all over the world to be found. And they are the reason why I sometimes show up for work blury eye and lacking sleep. I have set up more than one night reading a history page (oftentimes WW1 or WW2 aviation)until I realized how late it was.

Rick

wayno7777
03-14-2006, 08:26 PM
I wonder if Boosher knows of this site? Excellent site, btw....

Vuco1
03-15-2006, 03:50 AM
Hm, I found this on that page.
Quote from Night Witches:
"The Po-2 would pass often undetected by the night fighters' radar, because of the mildly radar absorbing nature of the canvas surfaces, and the fact that mostly they flew near the ground.<span class="ev_code_RED">German planes equipped with infrared seekers</span> would not see the little heat generated by the small, 110 horsepower engine."

Infrared seekers on ww2 planes, wtf?

CapBackassward
03-15-2006, 04:23 AM
Yes. Germans made the first breakthru in infrared technology during WW2. However, the US and British took it further and faster than the Germans. By 1945 the US were using infrared sniperscopes on rifles in the Pacific.

Rick

Waldo.Pepper
03-15-2006, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Vuco1:
Hm, I found this on that page.
Quote from Night Witches:
"The Po-2 would pass often undetected by the night fighters' radar, because of the mildly radar absorbing nature of the canvas surfaces, and the fact that mostly they flew near the ground.<span class="ev_code_RED">German planes equipped with infrared seekers</span> would not see the little heat generated by the small, 110 horsepower engine."

Infrared seekers on WW2 planes, wtf?

The Germans found that IR seekers on night fighters to be inferior to their RADAR and it fell into dissuse.

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=199

Their is an IR telescope on the Mosquito NF Mark XXX and Mark 36... but it too was little used.

By the end of the war the German Army has three IR systems that I am aware of. An IR searchlight and driving aid mounted on some of their halftracks. An IR light mounted on the Commander's cupola, and drivers vision slit, on some Panther tanks. An an IR scope mounted on some of their Mp44/StG43 Assault Rifles.

http://www.geocities.com/desertfox1891/nightfightingpan...fightingpanthers.htm (http://www.geocities.com/desertfox1891/nightfightingpanthers/nightfightingpanthers.htm)

http://www.forum.fun-online.sk/files/stg44vampyr.jpg


By 1945 the US were using infrared sniperscopes on rifles in the Pacific.

I didn't know about that use CaptBackassward. Have you got a reference?

EDIT found it myself! Cool!

http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/m1irsnip.htm (http://www.rt66.com/%7Ekorteng/SmallArms/m1irsnip.htm)

Vuco1
03-15-2006, 01:56 PM
Well I knew Germans had and used "active" (active means it iluminates the target whit IR) IR "searchlight" in combination whit IR scopes, but, newer heard of "passive" IR seekers (passive means they pickup IR generated by the target) used in ww2.

Seems, you learn someting ney ewery day.

Don_X
05-29-2006, 04:56 AM
So the Russians made the first stealth bomber then.