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PhysicsInWar
03-31-2008, 03:12 PM
Hi guys,

I have been trying and trying to play this game since 3 years ago, but I still cannot get anything improved. So basically I am still new to the game.
I try to setup the control but then I see tons of button such as pitch control, trim control, and more. I don't know what those button for and I cannot even come up anymore key to setup different control.

One of my biggest problem is I cannot do simple things such as take off and landing and aim and shoot. I have tried to watch all the training clip provided but I still cannot do what they did in there. Basically every time I in the plane, around 5-10min then it crash or stall.

So can anyone give me some advices and set me up for some drill? I would greatly appreciate you.

Thanks

PhysicsInWar
03-31-2008, 03:12 PM
Hi guys,

I have been trying and trying to play this game since 3 years ago, but I still cannot get anything improved. So basically I am still new to the game.
I try to setup the control but then I see tons of button such as pitch control, trim control, and more. I don't know what those button for and I cannot even come up anymore key to setup different control.

One of my biggest problem is I cannot do simple things such as take off and landing and aim and shoot. I have tried to watch all the training clip provided but I still cannot do what they did in there. Basically every time I in the plane, around 5-10min then it crash or stall.

So can anyone give me some advices and set me up for some drill? I would greatly appreciate you.

Thanks

K_Freddie
03-31-2008, 03:35 PM
I WOULD recommend getting/reading the 'PRIVATE PILOTS HANDBOOK' with regard to the physics of flying and flight control.

After/before that I'd recommend Bearcats Nuggets Guide (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9121094645).

It looks like we'll have to guide you .. step-by-step... but not to worry, the best combat pilots start here.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

As we go, be specific about each problem/request...

buzzsaw1939
03-31-2008, 03:48 PM
It sounds like you lack a flight stick, I would say you can never enjoy this game without it!

Xiolablu3
03-31-2008, 03:51 PM
Remember that a WW2 plane has a thrust ratio of less than 1:1, ie it hasnt got enough power to point the nose at the sky and fly straight up.

Try and think of it as a glider with a little more power, gain height slowly by pointing the nose just above the horizon.

Once you are at a decent height (maybe 2000m) now you can try and pick up a bit of speed by pointing the nose down a little (using gravity)

Practice zooming around at high speed for while, using gravity and zoom climbs to help you.

You do have a joystick dont you? You cannot simply hold the keys down without stalling. I played with keyboard for a while and its a case of tapping the keys rather than holding them down to turn and climb/dive. Much better with a joystick though.

K_Freddie
03-31-2008, 04:03 PM
BUZZ sounds right.. we always take for granted everbody has the right equipment..
1)Joystick and throttle
2)Rudder Pedals
3)Track IR

..in other words.. many dollars later - but it's worth it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

OMK_Hand
03-31-2008, 04:12 PM
Hi PhysicsInWar.

"Pilot Elementary Training: RAF Flying Cadets' Handbook"

http://ww2airfronts.org/Flight%20School/basics/lessons/...tes/cadet_note1.html (http://ww2airfronts.org/Flight%20School/basics/lessons/cadet_notes/cadet_note1.html)

Not only good advice for the game, but also a rich slice of history cake...

strider1
03-31-2008, 06:13 PM
In case you didn't catch it in Bearcat's Nuggets' Guide, you can't do better than Joint-Ops Virtual Combat School at Here (http://www.joint-ops.com/).

Totally free, these great and knowledgable folks offer "out-of-the-box" instruction on IL2. Everything from setting up your controls, installing Teamspeak and getting your rig set for performance to a series of progressive flying courses with a precise and logical curriculum that start at the basics and run to Advanced. It will save you months of fumbling around by yourself. Lots of copyrighted downloadable materials similar to the guides mentioned above. Monthly events. Specialized aircraft training in your favorite crate so you can get the most out of it with a solid knowledge foundation. Lots more, all with a great group of people whose mission is to help you and to have fun.

I know the Basic Flight School for April is full but they are taking applications for June now. Several of the mods here are members.

Keep coming back here, too. Great info from helpful people here at all times. An excellent knowledge base in past posts on all aspects of the sim, just use the search function.

Be prepared to read and practice a lot. A steep learning curve but is well worth the effort. Hope that helps you, m8. Clear skies!

Strider1

Zeus-cat
03-31-2008, 06:55 PM
Try my training campaign "Straight From the Farm". It shows you how to takeoff and land from grass and then from an aircraft carrier. It also tells you some of the basic functions you need to map. You can find it at Mission4Today at the link in my signature.

M_Gunz
04-01-2008, 12:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by K_Freddie:

3)Track IR

..in other words.. many dollars later - but it's worth it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

TIR -or- one of 3 FREE alternatives that only require webcam and maybe one IR LED (more won't hurt)
on a hat.

Not everyone has that extra over $150 for TIR.

M_Gunz
04-01-2008, 12:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhysicsInWar:
I try to setup the control but then I see tons of button such as pitch control, trim control, and more. I don't know what those button for and I cannot even come up anymore key to setup different control. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just about this; you don't need to use everything on the controls setup page. You should remap
most of it anyway to suit yourself.

Your joystick should have at least a throttle. That means the number keys are fair to use for
something else like prop pitch or fuel mixture depending on what you can put on your HOTAS.
The arrow keys are fair to remap since you have a stick, if you can't HOTAS trim then the arrow
keys are naturals for trim.

It goes right down the line like that, what you can put onto stick and throttle you use those
keys for something else.

And you do know that Shift, Alt and Ctrl key combinations are allowed even if not highly desired?
Save those for things you don't need quickly, Ctrl-arrows are good though since the right Ctrl
key is right next to the arrow keys.

If you have a crud stick and not much bucks, look into Saitek AV8R stick rather than other cheap
sticks. You can even build pedals, there's a thread here and many websites showing how.

SeaFireLIV
04-01-2008, 02:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhysicsInWar:
Hi guys,


I try to setup the control but then I see tons of button such as pitch control, trim control, and more. I don't know what those button for and I cannot even come up anymore key to setup different control.


Thanks </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok, forget trim, pitch and all that stuff. Just make sure you have the basics: A joystick with a hatswitch for looking around, or a mouse to look around. Make sure you have your throttle (if not joystick) set on keyboard, flaps and gears - it should all be set up, but check just so you know what the default keys are.

That`s it. Go fly around. start a campaign against AI.

Don`t worry about knowing everything, in real life, many pilots (the ones on the defensive) went up knowing very little about their aircraft and literally learned or died on the job.

Once you become more used to flying, you`ll soon be ready to learn more.

Walk before you run.

DanKurt
04-01-2008, 06:11 AM
What alternitives to TRack IR exist? I certainatly would be interested in a DIY project.

Skoshi Tiger
04-01-2008, 08:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DanKurt:
What alternitives to TRack IR exist? I certainatly would be interested in a DIY project. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

FreeTrack is one

http://www.free-track.net/english/

My brothers set one up for about $15 in an hour or two, and is as happy with that as I am with my TrackIR! Its worth a go!

PhysicsInWar
04-01-2008, 03:03 PM
Thank you folks for all your value replies. I am saving up to buy the Saitek X52 stick. Now I jsut play it on my laptop, haha not even with a mouse, just the touch pad.

Seriously, if I want to fully enjoy and master this game, I need to put more money in it.
By the way, what is the track TIR?

Where can I find the link to make my own pedal?

Taylortony
04-01-2008, 05:44 PM
Track Ir is a device that clips on your monitor and you wear a baseball hat with a reflective strip on it, as you turn your head around the screen image follows it in the cockpit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

see

http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/


All you need is a joystick as this will improve your game 1000% over the control you have, flying this using a full size keyboard is nigh on impossible, what you are attempting is bordering on madness http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As for pedals do a search of this forum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DD_crash
04-04-2008, 09:49 AM
This (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/3821084134) is the thread you need. I converted an old stick to pedals and it worked very well. Lots of other ideas in the thread as well http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif