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Jediteo
10-18-2005, 02:12 AM
Now again a consumer question

I'm thinking about buying the track IR, instead of the X52 (got a logitech extreme 3d pro now)

so my question is
should I get the track IR 2 (is much cheaper about 64$ or 500 SEK)
or should I get the track IR 3 PRO (170$ or 1300 SEK).
Is it really worth the extra cash
or should I buy a x52 for 170$

help please

xorrox
10-18-2005, 03:22 AM
I've noticed a considerable improvement when I went from Trackir1 to 3, but even 1 was quite playable. I would think that Trackir2 should work just fine. The question is: will you regret not getting Trackir3 when the new version of the sim supports the vector extension? Also, take a look at ebay. I got a new Tir3Pro + vector extension for 130 Euros awhile ago.

If money is tight, you might also want to consider getting a used X52 in good condition from ebay. It's a nice stick. I didn't even know I was a decent pilot until I got it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

stansdds
10-18-2005, 03:49 AM
I spent the money for the Track IR3 Pro with Vector Expansion and am very happy with it. IL2 doesn't support vector expansion, but the panning motion is very smooth and reliable. With sims like MS Flight Sim 2004, you can use the Vector Expansion and being able to lean out and look down the side of the nose is helpful with tail wheeled aircraft.

AFJ_Viper
10-18-2005, 03:56 AM
TrackIR3 for sure and hopefully like the guy said above Vector Expansion, that should be compatible in Battle of Britain i havent purchased VE just yet though will be cool though

Maple_Tiger
10-18-2005, 04:35 AM
If I were you, and I'm not, I would buy both. This way, you would have Track IR 5.
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IAFS_Painter
10-18-2005, 05:38 AM
I use TrackIR 2.
If I could afford it, I'd get TIR 3, and vector expansion.

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-18-2005, 06:27 AM
I went from TIR1 to TIR 3 PRO w/VE and I would recommend the 3 PRO to anyone interested in any kind of sim.


TB

missiveus
10-18-2005, 09:04 AM
I got the Track IR 3 non-Pro that's still compatible with the Vector Expansion, which I bought as an add on for BoB2. Problem with TIR2 is that you can't add VE, which only works for TIR 3/3Pro. If cost is an issue, get the non-Pro TIR3, and VE later when 1C Games sim supports it (or if you have other sims that support it. IMO, TIR is as important as rudder pedals for flying: You don't need them to fly, but what a difference!

SparrowThree
10-18-2005, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Maple_Tiger:
If I were you, and I'm not, I would buy both. This way, you would have Track IR 5.
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POST OF THE DAY!

han freak solo
10-18-2005, 10:22 PM
First up, I have a TrackIr2. It's done me well for over a year.

Second up, TrackIr users that wear eye glasses, a question for y'all. Do y'all have issues with the reflection off of your glasses being picked up by the TrackIr camera?

I've posted before how my vision has gone to h3ll. I see better with glasses now. I even have the glare reducing/low reflection lenses. But, when I tilt my head up, the TrackIr camera picks up enough of my lenses to screw things up.

Is TrackIr 3 better at dealing with glasses than TrackIr2??????? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Freelancer-1
10-18-2005, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:

I've posted before how my vision has gone to h3ll. I see better with glasses now. I even have the glare reducing/low reflection lenses. But, when I tilt my head up, the TrackIr camera picks up enough of my lenses to screw things up.

Is TrackIr 3 better at dealing with glasses than TrackIr2??????? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/lasik/

Do it for the love of the game

notamuppet
10-19-2005, 10:23 AM
Hi as a Track IR user (with glasses) I can tell you that glasses CAN give probs BUT it can be cured by using a cheap boom mike with the reflectors stuck on the mike part. As its closer to the IR unit it improves the tracking as well!

SparrowThree
10-19-2005, 10:46 AM
My Track IR + Spectacles issue is that when I turn to check 6 I am looking around my glasses. Kind of annoying.

I use a home made Track Hat and have no problems with TIR picking up the reflection off of my glasses.

han freak solo
10-19-2005, 12:50 PM
Hmmm. I too have a homemade track hat. I'll try and post a pic of it tonight. Perhaps y'all could post some examples? Please?

Lasik? AAAUUGH!! I don't have the insurance for such a procedure!

han freak solo
10-20-2005, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Hmmm. I too have a homemade track hat. I'll try and post a pic of it tonight.

I lied. I must have deleted my pics of the hat.

missiveus
10-21-2005, 06:38 AM
TOAD's solution:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1

I used a homemade setup before I bought the VE clip: A baseball cap with a 4-6" dowel attached to a ball covered in reflective material. Works great.

polak5
10-21-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
First up, I have a TrackIr2. It's done me well for over a year.

Second up, TrackIr users that wear eye glasses, a question for y'all. Do y'all have issues with the reflection off of your glasses being picked up by the TrackIr camera?

I've posted before how my vision has gone to h3ll. I see better with glasses now. I even have the glare reducing/low reflection lenses. But, when I tilt my head up, the TrackIr camera picks up enough of my lenses to screw things up.

Is TrackIr 3 better at dealing with glasses than TrackIr2??????? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif


Hey man how about some contacts, not only will it help in game. But also helps us blind guys, of looking less nerdy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

han freak solo
10-21-2005, 05:56 PM
Actually, that's the only way I can use TrackIr effectively.

After 24 years of wearing contacts, my eyes are starting to "reject" them. I now see better with glasses even when the glasses are a weaker prescription than the contacts.

This just happened this year when I broke through the 40 year old barrier.

polak5
10-25-2005, 02:07 AM
what really sux for me while using contacts, is that i forget to blink sometimes..Then my eyes get all dry and i gota put on eyedrops...then i have one on my 6!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Hologram3
10-25-2005, 07:29 AM
I wear glasses, and I just got the TrackIR3 with VE a couple of days ago. I haven't noticed a single problem with reflections, but maybe that's because I'm not familiar enough with it to notice. There are occasional glitches, but I think it may have more to do with my jerky head movements than with my glasses.

I will say that TrackIR completely revolutionized the game for me. For the first time I have a true sense of situational awareness, and for the first time I'm flying with cockpit view enabled. I used to prefer Wonder Woman view, because it was the only way I could hope to see anything before it shot me down, but now I don't even like it anymore. I've been flying with full cockpit and no icons for the last couple of days and having more fun than I thought was possible. I finally feel like I'm sitting in the cockpit, not just looking at a computer screen.

Anyway, I just wear my glasses without even thinking about it and TIR works great! It's one of the few products I've seen where you can really believe the advertising.

han freak solo
10-25-2005, 07:45 AM
I wonder if TrackIr 3 is better than dealing with glasses then? Hmmmmm? Wonder, wonder, wonder.

DaimonSyrius
10-25-2005, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
First up, I have a TrackIr2. It's done me well for over a year.

Second up, TrackIr users that wear eye glasses, a question for y'all. Do y'all have issues with the reflection off of your glasses being picked up by the TrackIr camera?

I've posted before how my vision has gone to h3ll. I see better with glasses now. I even have the glare reducing/low reflection lenses. But, when I tilt my head up, the TrackIr camera picks up enough of my lenses to screw things up.

Is TrackIr 3 better at dealing with glasses than TrackIr2??????? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Hi hfs, I wear reading glasses when I'm at my pc, and I'm using TIR-3 + Vector Expansion. Because the vector thing tracks the 3-dot pattern, there is no issue at all with glasses. Even in bright daylight with a window at my back, only thing that interfers with my TIR is the sun shining directly on it, and ordinary curtains stop that.

The other great thing about the vector, even if IL-2 doesn't have 6DoF, is that you don't need to keep your head motionless for a stable view, again because of the 3-dot pattern. You can change position in your seat, as long as you don't actually turn your head.

So for both reasons the vector is very convenient. Just set your room lighting in a proper way (indirect, not shining right onto the TIR or onto your face) and you can forget about problems with wearing glasses (mine are the cheap ready-made type, not even low glare glass).

Crash_Moses
10-25-2005, 11:42 AM
I concur, although I do have the anti-glare lenses. However, I've never had a problem with my TIR3pro and glare from my glasses. Come to think of it, I've never had a problem with my TIR at all. Ever.

In fact, I simply wrapped one of the small dots around the bridge of my glasses and glued it in place with some super-glue (don't get any on the front!). You can hardly see it but it does wreck havoc at those family photo shoots.

Photographer couldn't figure out why I looked like I had a flashlight between my eyes.

han freak solo
10-25-2005, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
Photographer couldn't figure out why I looked like I had a flashlight between my eyes.

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Thanks for the TrackIr 3 Pro responses y'all. That's exactly what I was needing to know! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

TSmoke
10-25-2005, 06:41 PM
"Second up, TrackIr users that wear eye glasses, a question for y'all. Do y'all have issues with the reflection off of your glasses being picked up by the TrackIr camera?"


Hans I have worn glasses for over 40 yrs.
I have recently bought TIR 3 Pro with the Vector expansion. Not having TIR 2 or anything else to compare to, so far no problems with glare or reflections off of the glasses. However get antireflective and antiglare coatings, if nothing else it is a heck of a lot easier on the eyes when it comes to eye fatigue.

Hullebullen
10-26-2005, 09:32 AM
@Jediteo...

...By SEK I take it you mean Svenska kronor. If so, where can you buy the Track IR 2 so cheaply in Sweden? I've been looking into buying Track IR but at prices around 1000-1500 SEK it's too much for my limited gaming budget...