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XyZspineZyX
11-20-2003, 06:01 PM
Oleg and Team,

If there are additional maps planned and I've missed their announcement in the forums, please excuse this post. If not, let me continue.

The new maps (Pacific Islands, Ardennes and Normandy) are wonderful addions included in the v1.2beta. I hope you will continue map building on a larger scale for the add-on CD.

2 (or more) maps would provide the much needed theaters of operation that the new aircraft in v1.2 and Add-On need.

An expanded pacific map, one that included both open sea and an actual land mass would give us a whole new world to fly in. There are several potential maps that could be made but we'd need something that would work with ground based aircraft since we don't have an aircraft carrier.

Then, one new large-scale map located in the European Theater. And, I understand Oleg wouldn't want to reduce the impact of his new Sim (BoB) but I'm sure he could model a substantial new land mass as he did with the Fantastic Gulf of Finland. Could we get a piece of the Med? Sicily/Italy? North Africa?

I know these requests have surfaced in the past but I just couldn't help rehashing them.

"You get what you pay for" is an old saying that I support and in this case I'd support Oleg's efforts of new map and aircraft construction for FB by pulling out my wallet. I'm not shy to spend money on a worthwile product.

Thanks for your time,
Mtn.

XyZspineZyX
11-20-2003, 06:01 PM
Oleg and Team,

If there are additional maps planned and I've missed their announcement in the forums, please excuse this post. If not, let me continue.

The new maps (Pacific Islands, Ardennes and Normandy) are wonderful addions included in the v1.2beta. I hope you will continue map building on a larger scale for the add-on CD.

2 (or more) maps would provide the much needed theaters of operation that the new aircraft in v1.2 and Add-On need.

An expanded pacific map, one that included both open sea and an actual land mass would give us a whole new world to fly in. There are several potential maps that could be made but we'd need something that would work with ground based aircraft since we don't have an aircraft carrier.

Then, one new large-scale map located in the European Theater. And, I understand Oleg wouldn't want to reduce the impact of his new Sim (BoB) but I'm sure he could model a substantial new land mass as he did with the Fantastic Gulf of Finland. Could we get a piece of the Med? Sicily/Italy? North Africa?

I know these requests have surfaced in the past but I just couldn't help rehashing them.

"You get what you pay for" is an old saying that I support and in this case I'd support Oleg's efforts of new map and aircraft construction for FB by pulling out my wallet. I'm not shy to spend money on a worthwile product.

Thanks for your time,
Mtn.

XyZspineZyX
11-23-2003, 11:12 PM
any support for additional maps? the new aircraft are fantastic but having the proper arena to fly them in is just as essential.

Mtn.

XyZspineZyX
11-23-2003, 11:14 PM
Superbump for this!! With the Italian planes coming, it would be awesome to have a Med map!

GATO_LOCO

XyZspineZyX
11-23-2003, 11:27 PM
Italy map could be alot of fun as would more of the western Europe theater where battles occured (I understand avoiding England till later although a cross channel Dover to Calais would be great).

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XyZspineZyX
11-24-2003, 02:11 PM
What about a Poland map to give those P.11s a proper arena?
And a Romanian campaign with maps would be also a good idea. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-26-2003, 04:42 AM
Thanks for the support for this suggestion. I thought more pilots would voice thier opinion for more places to fly.

Mtn.

XyZspineZyX
11-26-2003, 10:06 AM
How about a South-East Asia map for the Flying Tiger?

XyZspineZyX
11-26-2003, 10:43 AM
i support the idea /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Mad_Hatter009
11-26-2003, 02:08 PM
I agree. SE Asia, Poland, the Med...Spain anyone? For those SCW fans.

Big bump.

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XyZspineZyX
11-26-2003, 02:27 PM
A Koenigsberg map is planned for the addon. Whether or not there will be a winter version remains to be seen.

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XyZspineZyX
11-26-2003, 05:30 PM
if i knew how id make some /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 05:51 AM
How did this thread get on page 2?


Italy map with Sicily maybe would be great addition. The towns will be a problem for Oleg's team, could you guys accept a map with reduced buildings and rivers? I would love a Mongolia map for Soviet vs Japanese....No buildings, just a few rivers and mountains. Nothing fancy if the Team has little time.


I really must fix this loose Bump Thread key on my keyboard.

XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 06:01 AM
A map like this

http://home.earthlink.net/~tphadden/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1900big.jpg


Only without all the pretty colors and of course all the countries with proper 1930ish - 1950ish borders.

XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 06:02 AM
I think we should have the Northern and Eastern part of the Ardennes maps to cover the air war in the Ardennes, much of which started in the North of the Ardennes and Germany.

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XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 06:39 AM
That thing is HUGE. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif You know, if it didn't have all the tiny streams and every little bath house modded, we could load that and run it. Think of navigating a P~51 or Zero across 1000km. What you lose in useless detail you gain back in infinite possibilities.

XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 07:25 AM
nearmiss wrote:
- I think we should have the Northern and Eastern part
- of the Ardennes maps to cover the air war in the
- Ardennes, much of which started in the North of the
- Ardennes and Germany.

I'd prefer to see Northern France, Holland and the Netherlands: you could either attack from Britain or travel with the RAF through Europe.

And of course, The MED!!! I'd love to see Malta or Sicily.

XyZspineZyX
12-02-2003, 03:33 PM
To hell with Ardennes and Normandy.
Give me just a flat, barren sandy region from Afrika, and I'll be happier than a kid in a candy store with daddy's credit card in hand. Even better if it's got regions with bushes like in that famous 109E pic.

Message Edited on 12/02/0309:35AM by sauron6

XyZspineZyX
12-06-2003, 03:31 PM
~S~

Hope there is more support for additional maps...omes that will compliment the new FB aircraft yet not detract from the new BoB Sim.

Mtn.

XyZspineZyX
12-06-2003, 10:12 PM
Yup, Sand..Dunes..Arid land..Those nice Bf-109 desert skins are just going to waste without some Afrika backgrounds!!

XyZspineZyX
12-06-2003, 11:34 PM
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif lol gee thanks Snuffy i ben looking for 1 of those mpas for a while now. lol

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XyZspineZyX
12-06-2003, 11:49 PM
Am I the only one that read Luthier will be creating new maps in his Add-on (with Starshoy)? I believe it was in a post about requesting modeler help, specifically for ships; to which his responce to the standard question was 'Is the Pacific the only theater you can think of that had a naval element?'. My memory must be going to @#$%, probably all in my imagination.

XyZspineZyX
12-07-2003, 01:44 AM
How about the Aleutian Island chain in Alaska; namely Kiska and Attu islands plus Dutch Harbor? Crappy weather and it would be a great place for the KI-43 (if it is coming?), PBY, P-38, P-40, C-47, B-25, and the A6M.

As far as I know it is the only part of American soil that has been invaded for 100+ years.



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XyZspineZyX
12-07-2003, 04:52 AM
I'm wondering how much work it would be to make a winter version of the Kuban map. Maybe only a few textures have to be replaced?

I use that map very often and it would be nice to have some visual variety sometimes.

And currently we don't have too much opportunity for flying in the mountains.

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XyZspineZyX
12-07-2003, 04:47 PM
@ Snuffy.... you do realise that is a Pre-1918 map dont you? The Empire of All Russia ceased to exist then, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland ceased to exist in May 1921. In fact there is hardly a State or Kingdom that exists on that map that continued to exist in that form past WWI (see the Ottoman Empire for example).

FYI

XyZspineZyX
12-10-2003, 09:15 AM
Instead of the Arctic, I would propose the Philipines and
Burma, but both would require a load of additional types and objects to do any justice (even skipping the Carrier factor).

But lets face it, it would take a LOT of HARD work and many months to add all these items...

Some easier options are Tunis and Libya, in terms of terrain these desert areas are realatively easy to add. We have P-39s, we (some) P-40, Hurricanes, we'll have some Spits and Lightnings, Mitchells, Havocs add the good German plane set and you have much of a good Desert War...(not even mentioning the AI Italians and possible flyable ones, the possibility of a flyable Gladiator, AI Beau etc).

Come and think of it, it would be MADNESS not to add a North African and Italian campaign. Many of the aircraft are part of or will join FB, the game engine is extremely well suited for both of these campaigns.

Until we have BoB (a long wait) there is still enough potential and money to be earned from these areas.

The community choose the Med. as its No.1 wish for a future campaign, development as brought us MANY of the needed types, what remains is to put them together and create a campaign...

Med forever!!

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XyZspineZyX
12-10-2003, 03:05 PM
I'd like to see an expanded Ardennes map or a map that covers areas north of the Ardennes to give us a proper late war Allied approach to Germany.

I think adding North Africa may be out of place, although we have the proper planeset...what may be more possible would be an Italy theater which would give us crossover with the Balaton map as well as provide an excellent space for both of the Italian airforces and the Allied airforces. That'd keep alot of people happy (fighting or flying Italian aircraft on their own soil seems more interesting than far flung in North Africa).

Just a thought.

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XyZspineZyX
12-10-2003, 03:13 PM
Agree....a pay for addon should have new maps....would be better if they were integrated into the QMB as they were not in FB.

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XyZspineZyX
12-10-2003, 07:45 PM
I support this,makes a lot of sense-we're going to have late war a/c so how about a late war map? Obviously without taking away any of the suspense of BOB,but the HUGE map of Finland gives SO many posibilities..how about another in the same scale.

XyZspineZyX
12-12-2003, 07:26 AM
Well, here is an idea...

I dont know the given stage of the BoB maps, but when they are done, perhaps the map guys at 1C might think about making an add-on for the FB series with nothing but maps.

I know I would buy it, and judging from the rest of the posts in this thread, others would too.


The problem with BoB for me is the simple fact that I havent gotten bored with FB yet! So, in some ways I am glad it wont be out for at least another year or so. But in the mean time, a few more maps would be a great way for Oleg to make some more cash, and satisfy us FB junkies!

BTW: I really love the windmills in the Normandy maps! Very very nice... I crashed near them the first time I saw them... just so I could get a better look externally.




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XyZspineZyX
12-12-2003, 12:51 PM
Here is a thought I had a while back if they added a new map for a North Africa invasion and some one put together a carrier. WOW that would make my day the most plane variants are in the game already(needed wildcat, Dwelotine). Oleg make a NA map of the invasion task force Torch area. Then a map for an invasion of Sicily. Then a Italian map and I WOULD DEFINATELY PAY BIG FOR THAT ADDON.

Remember keep building it and they will all come. The pilots in my group as well as pilots who I flew with in CFS 2 are all moving in this direction every day. The growth of our group of virual flyers needs stimulation till 2005 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. The more that this sim expands the better it will be and the more fun we can have ( and the more interest in buying the BoB will grow). The olny other thing I would hope for is a better dynamic weather system, but if I dont see that till the BoB then so be it I will wait.

Warriorbear

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:09 AM
I strongly support this idea.

My favorites are central Poland and North Africa, although others also sound nice.


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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:16 AM
Artic seas: Greenland Sea, Norwegian Sea, Barents Sea, Kara sea. I think it would be awsome to protect and/or attack convoys, land on icebergs etc.

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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 01:44 AM
@ JG77BlackWulf_2

I was refering more to landmass area more so than borders because from the air you don't see borders, just land.
And if you'll go back and read the rest of my post under the map you'll see I mentioned correcting it for WW2 borders.

Thanks bud.


JG77BlackWulf_2 wrote:
- @ Snuffy.... you do realise that is a Pre-1918 map
- dont you? The Empire of All Russia ceased to exist
- then, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
- Ireland ceased to exist in May 1921. In fact there
- is hardly a State or Kingdom that exists on that map
- that continued to exist in that form past WWI (see
- the Ottoman Empire for example).
-
- FYI
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XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 02:52 AM
Bump!

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 07:43 AM
bump

XyZspineZyX
12-15-2003, 03:46 PM
warriorbear wrote:
- Here is a thought I had a while back if they added a
- new map for a North Africa invasion and some one put
- together a carrier. WOW that would make my day the
- most plane variants are in the game already(needed
- wildcat, Dwelotine). Oleg make a NA map of the
- invasion task force Torch area. Then a map for an
- invasion of Sicily. Then a Italian map and I WOULD
- DEFINATELY PAY BIG FOR THAT ADDON.
-



I do totally agree with you !!!

-Malta and Sicily on the same map,
-North Africa (El-Alamein-Tunis and Morocco-Algiers for Torch)
-and a decent Pacific map (which means for me a map so big as the Gulf of Finland map) including a big island in the center, and 2 small islands on every opposite corners, just big enough to have an airbase

This would make of FB the definitive sim, and the best game ever made !!! Well... it is actuallly the best sim ever made, but these add-ons would make of it something absolutely fabulous !!!


I would love to fly a SM-79 Sparviero (the best torpedo-bomber of WW2) and attack convoys for Malta with it !!!

Come on, Oleg !!! Can you do something for that ???

You have made the King of all flight game !!! These things would transform the King in a real Emperor !!!



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Bearcat99
12-19-2003, 01:51 AM
Yeah that would be nice.... it would probably take a while to make though given the quality of the maps we have. Unless there was some way to use Satelite pics and then delete a lot of the modern stuff..

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Auger_249th
12-20-2003, 12:03 AM
Re: North Africa Maps.


I seem to recall mention of a N. Africa/Med Sim for development/release AFTER the BoB Sim.

This area is very Diverse geographically & in the equipment of Allied/Axis airforces.
Hence a complete sim in itself, seperate from IL2/FB.

Personally I look forward to this more so than the BoB Sim due in '05.

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Recon_609IAP
12-20-2003, 11:12 AM
bump:

med map would be great!

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AusDerReihe
12-21-2003, 05:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yay1:
Artic seas: Greenland Sea, Norwegian Sea, Barents Sea, Kara sea. I think it would be awsome to protect and/or attack convoys, land on icebergs etc.

agree. i'd like to see a map with GB and norway to recreate, for example, the sinking of the Tirpiz http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

or possibly because i'm form norway http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Schuck
12-21-2003, 01:56 PM
I want the rest of western europe

Zentaurus
12-23-2003, 02:49 PM
YES YES !! Please make FB round for us, i even pay for maps....most urgent to me: Desert map;Med. map (including Malta), Across the channel white cliffs of Dover map....i am still going to buy BoB, but until then ....why not strive to have a complete ww2 scenario...

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RAAFVirt75th
12-24-2003, 03:10 AM
I totally support a SE Asia and more over a South West Pacific Area map including historic scenery e.g. strips, bases etc. It seem this was one of the good things about CFS2 (although outdated and overtaken by FB).

For example see these links from dedicated people who spent many hours researching and then making all these SE Asia, Papua New Guinea, Solomons Islands maps for CFS2. If they can do it for that game - it should be able to be done by the dedicated and professional people at Ubi soft? Why not?

Hope so as it would have my blessing and Iam sure the thousands of WW2 flight sims enthusiaists who like the history component as well. After all this was one of the main reasons why CFS2 became so popular over the years. For example have a lookat the below site to see what I mean:

e.g.
http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS2_Scenery/MASKRIDER_Scenery/

So we can only hope that similar attention to historic detail and these types of maps will be done for FB.

Would certainly make a lot of American, British, Australian and Japanese and many other people from a variety of countries want to buy FB. It worked for Micosoft.Why not FB.

Here's hoping and praying.

If Ubisoft aint interested perhaps Just Flight or Abacus etc might be? Who knows.

VOL_Mountain
01-16-2004, 06:24 AM
With the much anticipated add-on scheduled for release in a month and the Russian Holidays ending soon, maybe we will see an update about the add-on a/c and maps.

Wonder if there is a chance for any further work after the add-on?

VW-IceFire
01-16-2004, 11:36 AM
Maybe a little bit more added after the addon pack is released but its tough to say if they would do something on the scale of new maps.

This addon cries out for more of Europe to have a map. There's lots of 1944-45 stuff that we can have fun with (using Ta-152's and stuff even) but we can't really properly do in historical terms because we don't have a map for it. I really want to have an expansive 20-30 mission campaign that sort of covers the allied advance in a fun sort of way from D-Day to the Allied invasion of the Rhine and the final confrontations with the Luftwaffe and the end of the war. Either way, I need the Tempest, Typhoon, and Spifire IX and XIV to allow me to make this scenario the way I want it... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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VOL_Mountain
02-22-2004, 09:54 AM
"This add-on cries out for more of Europe"

I Agree!

Maybe the routine updates could comment on the "New Environments" included in the add-on. They difer from the ones in the free patches, right?

Mtn.