View Full Version : Keyboard and mouse vs Joystick

08-18-2005, 04:36 PM
I use a keyboard and mouse, because that is all that is required in my favorite online game of CS:Source.

Now Im getting into Pacific Fighters

Can I play just as well as others with just a kerboard and mouse or does the joystick really help in flying an airplane?

08-18-2005, 04:38 PM
You must be joking

08-18-2005, 04:47 PM
I really wouldnt know. Never used one for any of my flight sims before. So I tkae thats one person who endorses the joy stick, any1 else?

Whats a good brand of joystick to get?

08-18-2005, 04:56 PM
without a joystick you will not play more than a week. But try it and you'll decide. Before Il-2 i didn't have a joystick. I bought it after one day.

han freak solo
08-18-2005, 05:02 PM
It is highly recommended to get a joystick. This game is challenging enough without the handicap of not having a joystick.

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08-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Using a keyboard/mouse instead of a joystick is like having sex all alone, may get the job done but it ain't pretty.

08-18-2005, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by 9th_Spitin:
Using a keyboard/mouse instead of a joystick is like having sex all alone, may get the job done but it ain't pretty.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif I've never heard it said better http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

08-18-2005, 06:00 PM
ye must get a stick ..and not a sucky cheapo logitech one .. may i suggest getting a couger stick or a saitek X 52 .. if your willing to splash out on a decent stick .. but will work out better in the long run as i bought a ****ty logitech 3D pro wingman an it would never calibrate after a while and it was hard to keep theplane level with it ...when i changed to a more expensive stick it was like making love all day long lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

08-18-2005, 09:25 PM
Man, glad I slept on it, before going out and getting one, otherwise, Im sure I would of gone with a Logitech one. Ive replaced mouses under the idea that a cheap one can pwn n00bs just as bad as an expensive one, which held true.

I was turned off by joysticks back when I boughta Logitech one in 99, and it flew planes like they were at a stall, all day long, I immediately unhooked it and never played with it again. Still in my basement 5-6 years later.

08-18-2005, 10:05 PM
I use a CH Flight Sim Yoke and CH Pro Pedals. Both work really well.

08-18-2005, 10:09 PM


Look around for a Saitek X45, Awesome stick and great HOTAS.

IFf you dont have th emoney for it get a Cheaper Saitek, they are all good.

08-18-2005, 10:23 PM
X-52 get's my vote.

08-18-2005, 10:33 PM
Here are some Joysticks I found for sale, I could swing by on to my brothers and buy them for the cheap and there all Saitek. WHich of these ones would you pick? Do you have your own link to a good joystick?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Saitek-USB-Collapsible-Joystick-ST9...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Saitek-USB-Collapsible-Joystick-ST90-Computer-Gaming_W0QQitemZ5798663845QQcategoryZ74944QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem)

http://cgi.ebay.com/SAITEK-PS24-CYBORG-EVO-USB-1-1-2-0-...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/SAITEK-PS24-CYBORG-EVO-USB-1-1-2-0-JOYSTICK-FOR-PC_W0QQitemZ5799774168QQcategoryZ3677QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Saitek-Cyborg-Evo_W0QQitemZ57991312...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Saitek-Cyborg-Evo_W0QQitemZ5799131224QQcategoryZ74944QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)

08-18-2005, 10:44 PM
If you're looking at one of those I'd say go with the EVO but you can get them brand new in some places for $25-$30. I always like to go new on things like these. You never know how much someone has thrashed one and its really hard to tell from the outside.

08-19-2005, 05:07 AM
Saitek Evo is a good and cheap joystick. For me the X52 and CH-Products are too expensive, so I bought the Evo. I'm very happy with it.

08-19-2005, 07:10 AM
I recommend you go here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html) first. For the price the sticks cantbe beat. Consider it like yourt interface with he sim. Dont skimp here..... and these sticks reconditioned are as good as new.If you plan to get pedals in the near future then go with the X-45... if you are not sure then try the X-52.....

08-19-2005, 07:33 AM
As said previously.

Don't buy a logitech stick.

The only enjoyment i got out of my logitech stick was when i broke it in two with my hands.

Ooohhh How i smiled then.

Saitek x52 all the way for me. (even though its more technical than the spaceshuttle)

08-19-2005, 04:57 PM
Follow BearCat's link, JimStuart. If you get yourself a reconditioned x45, you're getting a really decent entry level stick with throttle (and massive button programming capabilities), for not a great deal more than that god-awful Logitech stuff.

I wouldn't go for a reconditioned X-52, just yet. While new I'd call them a superior stick to the x-45 (I use one, happily), the original series had an old, faulty firmware that made the stick very difficult to use, and there's a possibility that a reconditioned stick could get you that.

All X-45s have quality firmware.

So, for affordable gameplay, Saitek is your only choice. Go for a new X-52 if you have a bit of money, a reconditioned X-45 if you have less, and an Evo New if you want to spend nothing at all. Although the lack of tactile throttle on the Evo will get to you very quickly.

CH gear is of excellent quality, but I very much doubt you want to outlay $600 before you even know whether or not you like flight simming.


08-19-2005, 05:26 PM
Joystick and sometimes keyboard. Do yourself a favour.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif