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Thrawn526
11-23-2010, 08:33 PM
Could anyone help me figure out the purpose of stun, because all of the times that I see the stun button show up over a person hunting me, I smack that button and they just walk straight through it like I didn't do anything. The only time I seem to be able to get it to work is when my attacker is stupid enough to stand still in front of me with their back to me and even then they seem to be able to still turn around and kill me sometimes.

obliviondoll
11-23-2010, 09:26 PM
Stun is a humiliation move (was also called "humiliate" in some pre-release interviews).

When your pursuer has no clue who or where you are, you can stun them. From in front, you'll rarely get away with it unless your pursuer has no clue who you are. From behind you'll usually land it, but if they expect it, the stun can be countered and they'll kill you. Some pursuers give themselves away and wait for you to try and stun them. The timing is pretty tight for countering a stun, and even moreso from behind, but it can be done, so be cautious when you're using it. Don't expect to walk up to your hunter and knock them out easily.

Also, shouldn't this be in the multiplayer forum?

Thrawn526
11-23-2010, 09:36 PM
About the different in forums, I didn't realize there was a specific forum for multiplayer, I only started posting yesterday and didn't check for that.

kaiachi
11-23-2010, 09:43 PM
I'll tell you what sucks, smoke grenades. I used it and it didn't stun my pursuer long enough for me to get away. he just came right over to me and killed me. the effects last only one or two seconds at the most and that's weak. but yeah, I've only been able to stun one time since i've been playing. I hung off the edge of a building and my pursuer walked right up to me and looked at me. I guess he was commenting on how stupid i looked and I jumped up and came right up behind them and stunned them. I don't think they saw it coming.

E-Zekiel
11-23-2010, 09:45 PM
I find that stun usually lasts 3 seconds, for me..But it depends on your timing. You really have to take lag into account for stuns. But you also can't use it TOO early, cause then it won't last very long. Generally if you hit someone with a smoke bomb, best thing to do, if you can without risking much, is stun them (with circle) after you smoke stun them. That will put them out for awhile. + If you're in Wanted, they will lose their contract.

They technically lose it in team modes, too, but they just get their ability to kill you right back about 10 or so seconds after the get up, so you still wanna disappear.

BAMB0
11-23-2010, 09:52 PM
Stun is supposed to give you a small window of opportunity to escape from your hunter. Thats why its changed to stun, it stuns your opponents long enough for you to run away somewhere else. That is as long as they don't catch you off gaurd first.

Also if you read the multiplayer menu theres a sort post about not relying on stun as a full counter to the assassinations because thats not what it is. It is not a counter, it is a stun. Like stated it is used only when the hunter isn't aware of your presence and you have the window to stun them to get away.

obliviondoll
11-23-2010, 09:54 PM
The best way to describe it is that stun is a "show off" move to be used when your pursuer's already beaten, not something to aggressively take them down with.

Thrawn526
11-23-2010, 09:59 PM
If it's not supposed to be used on a person who you know is hunting you, what is the purpose of having the button show up when they are running at you, but not when they are standing right in front of you in a blend crowd?

E-Zekiel
11-23-2010, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Thrawn526:
If it's not supposed to be used on a person who you know is hunting you, what is the purpose of having the button show up when they are running at you, but not when they are standing right in front of you in a blend crowd?

It does appear when they are standing right in front of you in a blend crowd...


You do have to have them highlighted, just like an assassination though. Half the time that's how I pull stuns off. A guy will walk up to a crowd with me and someone that looks like me in it and try to figure out which one is which. In the meantime I stun him because he didn't figure this out before approaching.

Thrawn526
11-23-2010, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by E-Zekiel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Thrawn526:
If it's not supposed to be used on a person who you know is hunting you, what is the purpose of having the button show up when they are running at you, but not when they are standing right in front of you in a blend crowd?

It does appear when they are standing right in front of you in a blend crowd...


You do have to have them highlighted, just like an assassination though. Half the time that's how I pull stuns off. A guy will walk up to a crowd with me and someone that looks like me in it and try to figure out which one is which. In the meantime I stun him because he didn't figure this out before approaching. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doesn't work that way for me. I stand in a blend crowd, a person walks in and I highlight them, no kill button or stun button so I figure it's just another templar hunting another target, then he/she kills me.

E-Zekiel
11-23-2010, 10:18 PM
Are you facing them when you press it? It may not appear until you face them. I will concede that generally when someone does that in a crowd I press my control stick toward them (facing them, sometimes taking a step forward if they're just out of reach) to stun them. I have never tried just standing in place and stunning with them highlighted - my bet is that that would not work though.

Thrawn526
11-23-2010, 10:25 PM
Yes, I was facing them, and even locked onto them while facing them and nothing showed up. It's usually as I start to walk away from the crowed (past them usually) that they suddenly spring on me.

E-Zekiel
11-23-2010, 10:27 PM
That's weird. Don't know what to tell you, sorry. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif All I can offer is that at the start of the game (for me, this was in beta), I had a lot of trouble stunning people. Then one day after my first stun it just started getting easier. Now it's second nature. Maybe it will just click one day? Who knows.

Thrawn526
11-23-2010, 10:34 PM
Eh...perhaps. Or it may just have to be something that I'll have to really practice.

Fitzy010
11-24-2010, 12:42 AM
Don't you do a challenge to unlock a stronger smoke bomb?

The stun button works but not if you walk right into your pursuer and expectt to take him/her down.

A did though had a glitch where I pressed the assassinate button and my target dodged it without a smoke bomb!

BAMB0
11-24-2010, 04:54 PM
It's not a glitch. I've done it a couple times by accident. I think that the stun if timed properly can be used as a counter.

That said I'm sure the timing on the button is tight and almost impossible to do on command. The couple times I've done it, it was totally by accident and me mashing the stun to hopefully hit him first before he kills me lol. In the end the stun button really isn't a 100% gaurentee'd counter and you pretty much have to be the earlier guy doing it.

Patremagne
11-24-2010, 09:06 PM
wait, is stun for the person you are trying to kill or the person trying to kill you?
and how do you use it?

Thrawn526
11-24-2010, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by pdoherty3000:
wait, is stun for the person you are trying to kill or the person trying to kill you?
and how do you use it?

It's supposed to be for the person hunting you, so that they can't kill you, but it works so little that it almost isn't worth hitting the button for.

obliviondoll
11-24-2010, 11:13 PM
Stun works well if you use it right.

It's got a VERY short range, so you have to get right on top of your hunter without them knowing you're there.

It only works if you've already got them after the wrong person, or if you're in a group with multiple lookalikes of you and they're trying to pick who in the group to kill.