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XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 03:50 AM
S!

There is nothing more close to the edge than attempting to land on the short deck of a Carrier.

There is nothing more satisfying than finally nailing it, and coming to rest on the side decks and enjoying the show of other pilots trying and trying to get just one on before they have to go to bed.

Just ask many of the seasoned sim-pilots who first experienced the thrill in CFS1 with RAF_Nello's Ark Royal, placed precariously on an Channel Island, so you could land without exploding.

Well the 'RAF662 Combat Flight Sim Group' have done it again, this time for our new found brillant sim experience of Oleg's excellant sim IL-2 FB.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/macawsite/tailhook/RAFvengeance.htm

Whether your are flying a Hurricane II or a Heinkel 111 or anything else you care to try, you know you will soon be 'hooked'.

Not convinced have a read here:
http://www.dyno-tech.com/cgi-bin/gcubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=004468#000000

XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 03:50 AM
S!

There is nothing more close to the edge than attempting to land on the short deck of a Carrier.

There is nothing more satisfying than finally nailing it, and coming to rest on the side decks and enjoying the show of other pilots trying and trying to get just one on before they have to go to bed.

Just ask many of the seasoned sim-pilots who first experienced the thrill in CFS1 with RAF_Nello's Ark Royal, placed precariously on an Channel Island, so you could land without exploding.

Well the 'RAF662 Combat Flight Sim Group' have done it again, this time for our new found brillant sim experience of Oleg's excellant sim IL-2 FB.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/macawsite/tailhook/RAFvengeance.htm

Whether your are flying a Hurricane II or a Heinkel 111 or anything else you care to try, you know you will soon be 'hooked'.

Not convinced have a read here:
http://www.dyno-tech.com/cgi-bin/gcubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=004468#000000

XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 03:23 PM
S!

Before you all get excited it is not a carrier.

It is however the best simulated carrier we can get in FB.

The mission can be downloaded from thhis thread.


http://www.dyno-tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=42;t=000285;p=1#000 006


http://www.btinternet.com/~james.thorpe8/veng1.jpg



http://www.btinternet.com/~james.thorpe8/veng2.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 05:45 PM
This looks awesome - can't find the download tho'

The link takes me to the frontpage - not a specific thread

Plz tell me how to get it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 07:17 PM
S!

The mission has been uploaded to the RAF662 downloads page.

Please goto the downloads section and IL2 FB Dogfight missions.

Here is the link to the download page.

http://www.dyno-tech.com/download/19.html

XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 03:55 AM
Landing on this "carrier" is made very difficult by the invisible ditches and mole-hills that were incorporated in the terrain of FB and that make the planes jump like kangaroos. It was better in the original IL-2.

Until the taxiing behaviour on non-runway terrain gets changed or we get a "runway" object in the FMB that allows us to smooth down a selected piece of terrain, short landings can be practised better on confined parts of runways or taxiways.


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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 04:20 AM
Blacklace,

I had a great time Saturday flying your "carrier" mission. You executed an excellent idea beautifully! It's wonderful that you can show some of these folks a good time without having the main objective blowing someone to pieces. Practicing fine control of your ship is as exciting as dogfighting. Good show Blacklace and the rest of the group!


Falcongrats!

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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 06:25 AM
S~RAF
Back to CFS days your site was the place for quality downloads!
Great work here too!
~S~

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XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 08:31 PM
S!

Plumps, Im sorry, I dont agree with you there.

Although your basically right, this particular island IS smooth as a babies bottom.

You probably havnt manages to land there yet so you wont know.

I assure you its good. The fact the Sub is in the way on Finals makes you tate a very similar approach as on a carrier. The angle of attack for carriers has also been considered.

If there is no obstruction then you just get a line of water skiiers coming in with their Gear in the water.

There is a small amount of water at the front of the runway that acts as a brake, this simulates cables.

If you overshoot this water its like missing the wire and you have do a touch and go and go around.

I can assure you there are not many that have landed on carriers as many times as me. And this is the closest I can get to recreating that feel in Forgotten Battles.

In the RAF662 I am an Ark Royal Training officer, and also hold both Ark landing award and advanced Ark landing award as well as Carrier Landing award. God man I hate Ships LOL.

Even if you dont consider it a good simulation. The fact that once your down you can sit there and watch the carnage around you as pilot after pilot crash on approach is a great thrill to see.

Also once the runway area gets quite full of aircraft, the landers have the added worry of crashing into their mates.

This is what made the Ark Royal Game such a Hit in CFS1, I have no doubt that this will bring back those fond memories to some.

XyZspineZyX
07-22-2003, 08:40 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 12:48 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 02:28 AM
Not to sweat it, plumps. If this bootleg Beta 8 patch I've got is any indication, they've fixed the pogo effect. Shouldn't be a problem once the final patch comes out.

Leimboy
07-23-2003, 02:54 PM
Hey! Nice skin on that norwegian Hurricane! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
Who made that?

-Ron

XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 04:27 PM
Can't wait to try this when I get home.

Might be worth posting this in the General Discussion forum if you've not already? Get a few more downloads that way.

Cheers,

SSS

XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 08:15 PM
RAF_Blackace wrote:
- S!
-
- Plumps, Im sorry, I dont agree with you there.
-
- Although your basically right, this particular
- island IS smooth as a babies bottom.
-
- You probably havnt manages to land there yet so you
- wont know.

I did manage to land there once or twice without breaking the plane (I-16, in good weather only). In fact those invisible mole-hills were a help in those successful cases, because they made the plane jump a little bit and fall down before the end of the runway, thus slowing it down more than normally. See my recorded track. (http://home.arcor.de/rayluck/sturmovik/20030720-2-I16-carrierlanding.zip)

But I think that the jumping is quite random, and a successful landing is a matter of good luck in FB 1.0.

I don't intend to criticize your carrier. To show you where I'm coming from: I have been developing a campaign for the I-16 with some take-offs and landings in unusual places. I did that for IL-2 Classic, only bought FB recently and tried to transfer the missions to FB. That was a complete failure, it's almost impossible to take off from my mountain airports (which are also quite similar to carriers) on the Kuban map in FB. I really hope that this will get fixed in the patch, but someone who has beta 0.8 told me that the jumping is still there.


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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 11:56 PM
S! Plumps.

I have got the Hurricane down and a He111 and ive seen an IL2.

But I have had no reports of anything other than these.

I know exactly what your saying about the bumps. If you hit the water hard and touch the end of the island you jump in the air about 200 Feet. Looks great from the ground but hardly realistic. However, at the required landing speed of 120 for the Hurri, any bumps are not noticable.

All I know is ive run this on Hyperlobby for the last week, I have had up to 35 guys joining and they all thought it was a refreshing change from the tedious rounds of FFA that is usually flown.

One Day Oleg hopefully will give us a real carrier to land on, until that joyous day, this is probably the best i can do.

XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 12:54 AM
S!

Happy to report that 135 have downloaded this new concept in missions.

Flying this all week on the Hyperlobby,it has had a steady stream of many FB'ers who had visited and some have even landed.

For those who enjoy a real challenge, then there is a new Vengeance Thunder, which requires a solid nerve to land the cross-wind, and some deft turning at the end.

A new complex has been discovered, with a slightly longer strip that is intended for beginners to the art of pin point landings. And here you can enjoy fighting down your P-47's FW and that everso touchy ME 109.


Have fun and pop along to grab yourself a copy.

http://www.raf662.com


S! Macaw

XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 11:06 PM
To members of the RAF662:

Thanks, guys! I flew with you guys a couple times (under command of Mouse) and remembered watching with awe as I was asked to fly wingman for a P-51 on approach! I couldnt believe he landed it! I myself had landed a few times, but only in the Spit Mk1 or Hurri!

I thank you guys for bringing the joy of landing on the Ark (which is still the most popular thing to do in the nearly abandoned CFS1 Zone rooms) to FB!

S!

Ridge_Runner_5

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:44 AM
S! Ridge

I remember you fondly as one of those record setters.

Please keep in touch, we are setting records again.

Visit the website, or E-Mail me at RAF_Blackace@Hotmail.com

I will give you contact details of when we run the records games.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 02:21 AM
This is preaty fun & challanging to land on altho the fact is that there is no WIRE or Tailhooks On FB aircraft so the reality factor is low


I can land on the Deck but I can never stop in time altho ive came very close


This just makes me want a real carrier with Wire & tailhook option in loadout for ac that were carrier landing capable


Still some fun tho !!!!

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 04:31 AM
LOL!

I remember the Ark Royal from CFS-1, boy was that intersting!

My record was 78 landings/takeoffs without a crash while flying a Bf-109.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 04:34 AM
VOL_Jon wrote:
- LOL!
-
- I remember the Ark Royal from CFS-1, boy was that
- intersting!
-
- My record was 78 landings/takeoffs without a crash
- while flying a Bf-109.
-
-

YOU LIER! it is imposible, there was not a single day i would not come to the ark royal room and ram everyones on the deck

"Never forget the past so we dont make the same mistakes in the future"

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 05:42 AM
Aztek_Eagle wrote:
-
- VOL_Jon wrote:
-- LOL!
--
-- I remember the Ark Royal from CFS-1, boy was that
-- intersting!
--
-- My record was 78 landings/takeoffs without a crash
-- while flying a Bf-109.
--
--
-
- YOU LIER! it is imposible, there was not a single
- day i would not come to the ark royal room and ram
- everyones on the deck
-
- "Never forget the past so we dont make the same
- mistakes in the future"


DO NOT CALL ME A LIAR YOU PIG!

Landing a 109 on a carrier is no big challenge if you use the right one!

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 07:01 AM
I guess I better explain this for Aztek

The way to get a Bf-109 onto the Ark Royal in CFS-1 is to use the Bf-109T Trager

It's like a Bf-109E but with a more powerfull engine, spoilers, longer wings, and a tail hook.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 07:01 PM
S!


I think I can clear this one up.

To Qualify for the RAF662 Advanced Ark Royal Award in CFS1 you need to land three kinds of aircraft on the deck. With Two witnesses, one of which is a ARTO (Ark Royal Training Officer).

For each aircraft you need to make three consecutive landings and takeoffs in the same game with no crashes.

No Hooks are allowed, they must be the stock CFS1 Aircraft.

The three aircraft are.

1. P47.

2. Bf109

3. Sopwith Camel.

There are more than enough holders of this award (including myself) to prove its not as hard as you think.

Of course you also need to be a member of RAF662 to get the award as well LOL.

XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 02:34 AM
Play Silent Hunter II, and torpedo merchant and Navy carriers instead. It's the only game I've seen to have a Sunderland as a stock aircraft.

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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 06:35 AM
hmm, no hooks? I'll go with the Spoilers then!

I wonder if Oleg would ever put in the Bf-109T1 for us? Take the 109E, add more wingspan and a more powerfull engine [forgot the numbers, but a DB-601 series] as well as spoilers and a tailhook.

[This aircraft was never produced in large numbers]

Or maybe the Bf-109T2: No carrier gear [just the spoilers], GM-1 with this aircraft, so it was probably like a higher altitude version of the Bf-109E7/Z.

[Again, not produced in large numbers]

XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 06:43 AM
Here's some better numbers:

Bf-109T0
10 produced. [some converted???]

Bf-109T1
7 produced.

Bf-109T2
63 produced.

XyZspineZyX
08-03-2003, 03:23 PM
S!

Well there is no debate really. The skill required to land on a bouncing bobbing deck with slight crosswinds (Wind direction versus sea state) is why being a naval aviator is still regarded as one tough job.

Of course for us sim pilots, sitting in the comfort of our hard backed chair, with wife ready at a moments notice to supply urgently needed replacement beer or sandwich sustinance, we get things a little easier. Just so long as we keep the zimmer frame within easy reach, we can get out and stretch our legs when we get the dreaded sweats on, and if we do get a case of the handshakes we know it is not caused by near limit severe stall buffet, only our FFB settings are too high.

Any way each to his own,in RL it is called the tailhook society for a reason. In our sim world we did not have tailhooks, so we did without, often creating heaps of scrap pixels in the process, but as proof a standard stock ME109e could land and stay in one peice. here ya go.


The record stand at 9 aircraft on and 9 aircraft safely off again.

And that Soppy Pup, as 11 on 11 off.


And so far at Vengeance we have a Hurricane record, I doubt it will stand very long.

http://www.btinternet.com/~james.thorpe8/hurri1.jpg



So come along, join us, we know you will get hooked.


S! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif





Message Edited on 08/03/0302:28PM by RAF_Macaw

XyZspineZyX
08-03-2003, 04:11 PM
- Well there is no debate really. The skill required
- to land on a bouncing bobbing deck with slight
- crosswinds (Wind direction versus sea state) is why
- being a naval aviator is still regarded as one tough
- job.

I am going to violently disagree on this point and I offer the following as evidence:

- with wife ready at a
- moments notice to supply urgently needed replacement
- beer or sandwich sustinance,

This, my friend, is the one aspect of sim flying that I have yet to master and would maintain that it is easier land an aircraft upon a bobbing deck with a crosswind than to get the wife to cater to me...

If I could figure out how to get the CINC-House to provide me with sustenance while flying the sim instead of yakking at me to do some yardwork I'd feel as if I had truly mastered something...

;-)

XyZspineZyX
08-03-2003, 04:43 PM
As always , RAF 662 delights us delivering with full hands concrete ideas and experience in combat flight sim.

S!