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corvette93
01-03-2005, 10:10 PM
<Begin Rant> What happened to the ability to navigate on the servers? As recently as last spring you had to determine your position with your map reading skills. Now, they all have that little airplane marker and navigation skills are rendered moot!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Lets get back to navigation and dump the ****ed marker. If you can't navigate with a map, learn! If I can do it you can too!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif<End Rant>

corvette93
01-03-2005, 10:10 PM
&lt;Begin Rant&gt; What happened to the ability to navigate on the servers? As recently as last spring you had to determine your position with your map reading skills. Now, they all have that little airplane marker and navigation skills are rendered moot!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif Lets get back to navigation and dump the ****ed marker. If you can't navigate with a map, learn! If I can do it you can too!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif&lt;End Rant&gt;

LeadSpitter_
01-04-2005, 03:04 AM
most cant handle it, try the greatergreen server which seems to making a big comeback. Lots of skilled pilots, the best historical planesets, shortened friendly labels for comms purposes no enemy icons.

You see alot of teamwork in greater green unlike the camp over your own runway or marker line in some of the others. Give it a try you will be hooked and the number of players is getting up there where its always full.

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-04-2005, 08:04 AM
At greatergreen, we brought back the minimap path to aid in navigation over vast expanses of water such as is found in PF. It may be disabled again, but that is undetermined yet.

Until then, I suggest deviating from the norm and fly a ground attack aircraft like the Stuka. The challenge isn't finding the target, but rather getting in and out and making it home. While it's still a DF server, we try to emphasize diversity by mapping considerable ground targets to encourage the whole spectrum of the airwar.

TB

AWL_Spinner
01-04-2005, 08:28 AM
Nice to hear TGDThunderbolt56, as a bomber pilot I always used to steer clear of dogfight servers but I'm finding a lot to enjoy now on GreaterGreen and WarClouds.

Re: navigation, I have mixed feelings. It's immersive to navigate properly and it has it's place in the online wars and co-ops, but then you are taking the place of five or more people flying, navigating and defending a bomber in the busy skies of a DF server so the help is welcome when things get hectic and you're calling for escorts.

Cheers, Spinner

Lukki
01-04-2005, 02:26 PM
So on a server with no map icon, how do you navigate when the terrain is just water or possibly plain fields? I suppose you need your TAS and heading and the location you start from. But somehow getting all this information is a pain in the ***. I don't have a TAS chart... Then there's declination to note when reading heading. All in all, I prefer the map icon. I don't have to time to calculate such things. That's why you have a navigator. I think all planes that have a navigator should have the map icon REGARDLESS of settings. That would make those day fighters lost, but that's teh point...

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-04-2005, 02:34 PM
You don't have to calculate. If you look out of your cockpit, you can see forests, lakes, rivers and towns. Match them with your map and "Bingo"

There you are.

It is almost like a red X that says where you are. From that point on, you can determine your heading to the next landmark or, to the target.

Nothing really hard about that.

StG77_Fritz_X
01-04-2005, 07:23 PM
What Platypus said; Just some basic navigation skills will do the trick to get you from A to B, except on "all water" maps that is.

Lukki: Even the best navigators can get lost if they dont look out of the window and check their map. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

GvSAP_Wingnut
01-04-2005, 08:42 PM
A little perspective from an RAF pilot, who was with the 151 Wing in Murmansk, 1941:

"Landmarks? In Russia? Endless woodland & lakes. And a map that came out of a school atlas. The best one was the sea! If lost, fly north till you see it & then go east till you come to the Kola estuary & there we were."

corvette93
01-04-2005, 09:03 PM
Good point. I just think it's more realistic to navigate.

corvette93
01-04-2005, 10:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
At greatergreen, we brought back the minimap path to aid in navigation over vast expanses of water such as is found in PF. It may be disabled again, but that is undetermined yet.

Until then, I suggest deviating from the norm and fly a ground attack aircraft like the Stuka. The challenge isn't finding the target, but rather getting in and out and making it home. While it's still a DF server, we try to emphasize diversity by mapping considerable ground targets to encourage the whole spectrum of the airwar.

TB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll concede the point of using it to cross vast expanse of water. I do fly the Stuka and 110 on lots of Jabo. You are right. The challenge is in getting in and getting out alive!!

Lukki
01-05-2005, 03:18 AM
Yes you can see landmarks if you have land! But if there's nothing but SEA SEA SEA...

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-05-2005, 12:00 PM
Well, for a (coral) sea map, it would be a little harder. But, if your starting point and your target position is known, you just have to estimate the course to it. You can aid yourself by holding a little (transparant) plastic compass rose to your screen in the briefing map.

F19_Ob
01-05-2005, 02:14 PM
I had no probs navigating with map only but it do make a difference for the groundpounders to be able to take a direct route homewards instead of climbing slowly over enemy teritory to be able to see the ground features when lost.

I always know in what direction home is but others forget and get shot down and then switch to fighters instead....
so, I want the aid so we can keep as many groundpounders as possible.
This way I also can shoot friendly asses clean from enemy planes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif