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swambast
09-05-2006, 02:49 PM
Hey all,

Well, for the first time in a very, very long time I am going to skip building my own, next computer rig. I just don't have the time right now to piddle around with it. On that note, I was hoping you all might be able to point me to some high-quality, U.S. computer manufacturers that make a good product at a good price. Eventually, I am hoping to go after the Intel Core 2 Duo Extreme Dual Core Processor, but I want a system with full tweaking benefits as well (i.e., unlocked and configurable BIOS especially!). Some of the "names" that jump out just from memory are Alienware and Falcon Northwest - no idea if they would be a good choice or not. I'm just in the phase of doing my homework now, so no need to point to specific "deals" - I'm just interested in the reputation and tweaking options of the manufacturer at this point.

Well, let me know what you think...!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif And thanks...!

fordfan25
09-05-2006, 03:03 PM
I cant recommend aleinwear anymore. dell bought them and dell is the devil. take a look at cyberpower.com

VW-IceFire
09-05-2006, 03:06 PM
I think Faclon still retains its name as a pretty high end gaming rig if thats what you want. I always just build them myself.

The company may be US based but absolutely every component will be built in China or Taiwan.

crazyivan1970
09-05-2006, 03:23 PM
Magnum-PC http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

slipBall
09-05-2006, 03:39 PM
I live in the states, but I bought my last rig from Canada
http://www.buydirectpc.com/page-gaming-computer.htm
designed my own, they built it, I can think of nothing bad to say about them, I have owned it for 2 years now

Sergio_101
09-05-2006, 03:47 PM
UNIVAC..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


Sergio

FritzGryphon
09-05-2006, 03:51 PM
I think universally you will pay much more for a brand name machine.

Much better just to jot down the specs you want, and have your local hardware store put it together for you. It'll be the same a a Falcon or an Alienware except for the logo, and a few hundred bucks less.

I got my PC assembled for me, and it cost me parts + $45.

LEBillfish
09-05-2006, 03:55 PM
Go to your local PC store that you trust, and have them build it with the components you want including getting all the software you select up and running perfectly.......Did that with mine, the parts alone all together significantly beat out price wise if I could of off the shelf bought such a system (which you can't as MB's tend to be minimal then and PS tend to be weak)........With an over and above price of to do the above, check it, and add 1 years service because they built it of;

$50.00...........

Impossible to beat deal....As if you buy off the shelf some part of it will be lacking. Also be prepared for a TON of worthless software installed that makes getting it running difficult at best as it all wants to auto update and push out its also installed competitor. In kind it's placed all over the PC so virtually impossible to get out, and at every turn is popping up an advertisement essentially to use it.

A friend went that route and it was the most rediculous thing i've seen.

Have your local shop do it........It will be cheaper, warrented by someone you can face to face poke at their chest if needed.....and will most likely cost you very little to do it that way.

In the end, though I like building my own PC's, it's the way to go.

BRASSTURTLE
09-05-2006, 03:55 PM
i bought mine rig almost 3 years ago from kc-computers.com

Extremely solid. Very well built. reasonbly priced (read not cheap, but won't break it off either)

or follow Billfish's advice.
always nice to have a chest to poke.

if you are looking for an auxillary unit, say for the mrs, look into computer recyclers.
huge deals on older equipment. i bought my 21 trinitron monitor for $100, with a 90 day warranty.

NetDaemon
09-05-2006, 04:36 PM
Yeah, go to www.magnum-pc.com (http://www.magnum-pc.com)
It´s a little and specialized company run by one of the mods in the Community Support Forum: Hunter82.
He regularly tries all the newest hardware in PF and is well known for tweaking and overclocking the hell out of his machines to get PF running the best/fastest it can.

steve_v
09-05-2006, 06:09 PM
http://www.magnum-pc.com/ and http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv

-HH-Quazi
09-05-2006, 10:21 PM
www.magnum-pc.com (http://www.magnum-pc.com) The only place to have someone build any type of rig for you. Sure go for the big names, good luck with customer service. You call these guys, you talk to these guys. They build computers every day. Plus, they play this sim and they know what it takes to run this sim. MAGNUM-PC BABY!!!!

fordfan25
09-05-2006, 10:28 PM
wow i did not know Magpc actually put them togather for you. thats kool. yea if thats the case then thats what i would do. does mag-pc test the rigs before sending them out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

knightflyte
09-05-2006, 10:30 PM
I bought an Alienware 4 years ago. Wow! that seems so long ago. I had no idea Dell bought 'em out. BUMMER.

In all honesty I concur with one of the above posters that customer service can be difficult with one of the larger computer builers companies. I waited 5 weeks to get mine back because it arrived damaged. Scratch on the case, and a crushed dongle for the editing application/hardware that came with it. I needed it for work and the extra 5 weeks put me behind in editing for a while. When I DID get it back it came back sans keyboard, mouse, and my ever so important dongle....and of all things my back up WINDOWS XP pro disc.

They are the nicest people you'd want to talk to when you're holding a credit card though.

Buy the parts and have it built locally if you don't have the time. Put the money back into you're local community that way too.

crazyivan1970
09-05-2006, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
does mag-pc test the rigs before sending them out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

For about 2 days they test it in and out. Sometimes more...depence

DoubleTap2005A
09-06-2006, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
I cant recommend aleinwear anymore. dell bought them and dell is the devil. take a look at cyberpower.com

Do NOT buy from Cyberpower. I bought a PC from them that was porked right out of the box. Their tech support was rude, obnoxious and for the most part useless. When I finally sent it back, these jerks tried to stick me with a charge from "discs and a manual" that I supposedly did not return. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Grue_
09-06-2006, 06:20 AM
Dell

Don't factor tech support into your decision because every PC manufacturer has abysmal tech support http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

han freak solo
09-06-2006, 06:42 AM
They still make PCs in the USA?

Mine says China on the back.

TX-Bomblast
09-06-2006, 06:47 AM
Hello,
I used Monarch Computer in the past. They just built my new Machine, it's a Monarch Nemesis. It's very well built, plus they have very good customer support.


http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Sc...egory_Code=allgaming (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=M&Category_Code=allgaming)

swambast
09-06-2006, 07:32 AM
Guys & Gals, some great suggestions here, much appreciated.

The only problem with going to the "local" computer shop, is that at least here in Michigan they can be here today, gone tomorrow. Then what?

Monarch and Magnum look like good options. CyberPower looked like they had some good pricing, but after DoubleTap's comments I'll veer away. I like how Monarch has a tremendous amount of options to choose from for each component, that is slick. But like I said, I haven't done all my price comparison yet. In all honestly, tech support to me from most manufacturer's is subpar - most times I have the knowledge/experience to perform the necessary troubleshooting better than they can so that is not a necessity as much as a good warranty would be.

Well, keep the ideas coming...!!! And thanks!

Sergio_101
09-06-2006, 03:41 PM
Yup, Alienware was aquired by DELL.
Bummer, that's the end of alienware as a good gaming rig.
Now they will use DELL's motherboards, and second rate
castrated name brand cards.

Building your own is a good option.
if not, find a qualified geek to help.

Sergio

leitmotiv
09-06-2006, 08:21 PM
I've had a Predator game computer for the last two years---first a Waster and, after a motherboard failed (no fault of Pred but they replaced it right away), I upgraded to a Raptor. Has been a max solution for gaming all the way. No complaints. Jeff Del Vecchio will take good care of you. Since I knew nothing about computers going into this, I appreciated the great amount of time Jeff took to get me properly set up. It is truly a hands on operation with personal service.

http://www.predatorgamingpc.com/

Blutarski2004
09-07-2006, 08:09 AM
I've had two Falcon NW gaming systems and one home-built unit. Frankly speaking, what Falcon NW delivers in the way of game performance advantage is nowhere remotely close to the premium money they demand.

My recommendation is that you check out the game rig reviews in PC Games, etc. Select your components based upon the review recommendations and either build it yourself or have it built. Not hard. And you will save a great deal of money.

One bit of advice - do not skimp on the cooling. More is good. Too much is just enough.

swambast
09-10-2006, 02:03 PM
leitmotiv, the predator gaming systems looks pretty darn cool - I like that they specialize only in gaming rigs. Looking pretty enticing, thanks for sharing that info.

leitmotiv
09-10-2006, 02:49 PM
Good luck!

mortoma1958
09-11-2006, 09:39 AM
www.cyberpowerpc.com (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com)

That's the best one I've seen yet, don't buy factory machines, like Dell or Gateway, they're too proprietary!!!

I pieced together a system there at Cyberpower
but am going to buy all the stuff myself serparately and NOT buy the system from them.
But if you did buy one from them it would be better than Alienware or MagnumPC be sure!!!

slappedsilly
09-11-2006, 09:54 AM
I got my last one from ibuypower. I got exactly what I wanted and didn't have any problems. The prices were good too.