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Blowtanks
09-07-2011, 02:29 PM
I am a little slow, I will admit that.
But my understanding was, and maybe I misunderstood, that the SS comps were about "YOUR" screen shots taken during a mission you were on.
Seems to me that it's about letting the battles of the game, which none of us as any control over, run the contest.
So in the future all we need do is go to a nice computer generated battle and capture all the screen shots we need.
Is that what is has come down to?

MWolfe1963
09-07-2011, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Blowtanks:
I am a little slow, I will admit that.
But my understanding was, and maybe I misunderstood, that the SS comps were about "YOUR" screen shots taken during a mission you were on.
Seems to me that it's about letting the battles of the game, which none of us as any control over, run the contest.
So in the future all we need do is go to a nice computer generated battle and capture all the screen shots we need.
Is that what is has come down to?

Not sure what you're saying, that SS's should be limited to those taken in the patrol star only? If you know a battle is coming or you get a flash message to a big TF, you certainly can decide to attack it or not, but who doesn't try.

Sure, you can get more action shots during the large battles, like big surface battles or mass plane attacks, but I don't see where they have a better winning percentage.

Just look at the last 3 months, all SS that won were stand alone sub only shots...nothing but a sub with men on it in the ocean.... I don't recall exactly the other months, but I do recall a few others this year were sub alone shots only, like Werns "blending in." Seems this year the sub alone shots win more, so I ask, has it come down to this, that simple sub shots win over mass action shots...?

I think it's a matter of taste.

denis4510
09-07-2011, 06:24 PM
I think it's a matter of taste.

Spot on. I've never won anything but have been entering most months for quite some time. I enjoy doing this as a means of participating in this wonderful community.

I've seen shots which I thought were great but only got my vote. (You cannot vote for your own of course).

The shots as I understand it are as Blowtanks said - your SSs and unedited. However I have never understood there to be any limitation of where or when they could be taken - they can be "staged" as far as I am concerned - that's part of the fun and skill. With many players using MODs and different combinations of same, there can be different qualities and different results/situations - making more variety and interest.

The main thing as I see it is that they be unedited and in game, whatever the circumstances.

EDIT: In my clan we have both edited and unedited comps. I've won a few with my SH shots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cgkstealth
09-07-2011, 08:11 PM
Interesting point Blowtanks. I've got a few shots that are by no means realistic having been taken during my custom missions, but I think they are killer shots nonetheless. I'd already figured on not entering them though because I just don't think a shot as set up as mine should be considered a "fair" entry (especially since I'm sure it would win the comp hands down http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ).
As far as the shots taken during scripted battles and such, I think it's an excellent idea to incorporate them into the SS comp. Granted, those may receive more votes because of the action involved, but that all boils down to a persons taste in a screenshot; some like action shots, some do not.

In the end I've got to agree with MWolfe and denis, though.
I think it's a matter of taste.

MWolfe1963
09-07-2011, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by cgkstealth:
Interesting point Blowtanks. I've got a few shots that are by no means realistic having been taken during my custom missions, but I think they are killer shots nonetheless. I'd already figured on not entering them though because I just don't think a shot as set up as mine should be considered a "fair" entry (especially since I'm sure it would win the comp hands down http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ).
As far as the shots taken during scripted battles and such, I think it's an excellent idea to incorporate them into the SS comp. Granted, those may receive more votes because of the action involved, but that all boils down to a persons taste in a screenshot; some like action shots, some do not.

In the end I've got to agree with MWolfe and denis, though. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think it's a matter of taste. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree mods make a big difference. I use many. I've added numerous extra ships, skins, etc...
Enviroment mods make a huge difference. Those that play stock will have a hard time competing against mods. Mods are available to the community, so it's up to you to use them.

I don't use FORS, prefer TMO, but FORS is probably the best mod for SS's. It includes many extra well made ships

Some mods add landmarks like Sofu Gan, lighthouses, etc...TMO even has hulu dancers, Iceburgs, Dolphins, etc.

I don't know how you could have a total level playing field with all the mods, people like different setups. To my knowledge they're several campaign mods with a host of traffic, 4 enviroment mods, 4 supermods and all effect the game in different ways.

My setup is based on how I like looks and gameplay, if I had to change that to enter the contest, I just wouldn't enter. In the end each has to decide how to use all available tools to their advantage.

Again, 5 out of 8 wins this year were simple stand alone sub shots with no action and they won against some great action shots.

Blowtanks
09-08-2011, 12:20 AM
So, I guess I did not understand fully.
Thanks for getting that straight. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MWolfe1963
09-08-2011, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Blowtanks:
So, I guess I did not understand fully.
Thanks for getting that straight. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Do you not use mods? Regarding the SS contest, that would be like bringing a knife to a gunfight... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

pnwdom
09-08-2011, 10:56 AM
Do you not use mods? Regarding the SS contest, that would be like bringing a knife to a gunfight... Tongue


I know, that why I don't post any.

MWolfe1963
09-08-2011, 11:58 AM
For those that play stock adding an enviroment mod alone on top of stock doesn't effect gameplay, you just get better graphics....

Wolferz
09-08-2011, 12:22 PM
As long as the screenshots are not edited with an external program, except for the lightening of darker night shots usng MS Paint only, all are welcome for consideration. With or without modifications to the stock sim. Big battle or small. Mods were required to tweak the base coding into the fantastic sub simulator we have today. Otherwise it would have died out long ago.
With that being said, I'll go get the September installment started. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Sorry for the delay. I have been in a running gun battle with mother nature through all of August. Now September is here and the monsoonal rains have begun here in the northeast. Bring it on Momma! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif I'm starting to get the upper hand. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

WernherVonTrapp
09-08-2011, 01:54 PM
I believe SS are a matter of taste, though I don't seem to have any. I honestly never thought any of my SS would ever win, but when they did, they certainly weren't the ones I had in mind as the best of my vast collection. I have so many SS that it takes me (literally) hours to go through them all. I even have leftovers from my Stock Version games. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Anyway, as far as my own personal preference, I realize that some SS can be posed or even scripted with the campaign editor, though the latter is stretching it a bit in the ethics category in my opinion. Either way, I prefer the more serene, natural shots like a single sub with a moonlit background, or in a storm, but that's my own preference. Others may feel differently and choose the action shots all the time. I think the real talent lays in the angles and related manipulations of natural phenomenon, like MWolfe's "Ploughing through a Stormy Sea". That was such a good SS (in my opinion) that I first suspected it was a fake. It wasn't until I PMed him and found out how he did it that I realized just how good/talented a SS it really was. In fact, that knowledge turned it into the best SS I'd ever seen.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on the subject. It's a matter of preference which you can vote for, or not, no matter what your suspicions, likes or dislikes are. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif