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Crimea_River
09-07-2006, 03:43 PM
So I've been thinking of biting the bullet and spending some siginicant coin on my life-long dream of taking a ride in a tandem seat P51. Anyone out there done this?

Where? How much? Experiences?

I know of this one:

https://www.stallion51.com/home.cfm

Any other links anyone out there? I know of a tandem Spitfire somewhere in the UK and I just saw someone post a vid from a ride in a Corsair.

Thanks!

sudoku1941
09-07-2006, 03:45 PM
I've done it, it was a gift from my wife one Christmas.

My package I think cost $400, and included aerobatics and the opportunity for me to actually fly the plane during the sortie (not the takeoff or landing, but during the cruise at alt).

Expensive, but worth EVERY penny. If you have the opportunity, DO IT.

Crimea_River
09-07-2006, 03:58 PM
What plane and where?

strider1
09-07-2006, 04:34 PM
Do it and you'll be http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif for the rest of your life! I don't mean to dilute the topic but would add that most flying schools offer a cheap "introductory lesson" for a sales come-on (and there will be a sales pitch) but treat it like taking a car for a test drive just to see how it handles. Not in a warbird, of course, but it's FLYING!I have over 500 hrs. r/l single engine stick time and guarantee you'll never forget it. Very different from an airliner, for those travellers who think "I've flown before." Might be an idea to just sign up for ground school for the theory of flight, bfm,instuments, nav.,meteorology,airframe, etc. I know it's helped me appreciate the forces at work and how to think of co-ordinated combination movements of pitch-roll-yaw-throttle to get to the "right" place. S`! Regards, Strider1

fordfan25
09-07-2006, 04:45 PM
i ahve flown a p-51 mustang and yes the wings really do snap off with out resone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LStarosta
09-07-2006, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
i ahve flown a p-51 mustang and yes the wings really do snap off with out resone http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

blakduk
09-07-2006, 05:12 PM
I've not flown in a WW2 vintage aircraft- the closest i've managed is a Yak72 that was built about 30years ago.
Very different to anything else i've been allowed to throw around the sky- an absolute joy. Easily pulls 6G+ (that's my limit) and felt very stable throughtout the envelope- i didnt dare try to push it. Pulling maneuvoures like the hammerhead are actually easier in it than in any sim i've tried- mainly i think because you can be intuitively aware of what the aircraft is doing. There is no mechanism in a sim for that kind of feedback.
I was shocked however when the owner took me for a spin (literally)- he was so violent with the controls. I dont think i would ever dare push anything around the way he does.
If you get the chance, seize it!

One word of warning though- when an aerobatics pilot says 'Hang on, this will be fun', grab your harness with your hands and hold tight. I actually punched myself in the head the first time he said that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

sudoku1941
09-07-2006, 05:13 PM
It was a T-6 Texan trainer, in California.

Snow_Wolf_
09-07-2006, 05:17 PM
Closes i can get that WW2

http://www.naval-museum.mb.ca/navalair/beech_Expeditor_c45.jpg

KG66_Gog
09-07-2006, 05:22 PM
Fighters schmighters!

I've flown a real four engined bomber!!

WWSensei
09-07-2006, 05:54 PM
About 15 yearsa ago I got almost an hour in a tandem P-51 owned by a local crop duster back home.

I've got about 30 hours in a T-6 and around 10 in a T-34, both WW2 trainers but not as powerful as the warbirds.

I have sat right seat on a B-25 ofr two 45 min orientation flights and then one half hour flight for some paying customers. Truth be told on that one I didn't get much yoke time as I was too busy climbing into all the different positions. Did did 2 landings and 2 take-off credits in my logbook--hadn't kept the logbook up to date in years but something about seeing "B-25 Mitchell" as the aircraft type was just kinda cool. ;-)

Woof603
09-07-2006, 06:08 PM
I got my RCAF wings in a T6/Harvard 54 years ago. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

horseback
09-07-2006, 06:26 PM
I got a ride in the 'backseat' of a P-51D a few weeks before my 16th birthday in 1969. A guy in my Dad's squadron was a flight instructor in his civilian capacity (this was when senior enlisted men with families HAD to have another job in order to feed them), and the outfit he worked for had a few warbirds besides the Mustang, including an A-20 that I recognized from building the old Revell 1/72nd scale kit.

The Mustang ride was a spur of the moment deal; I was there at Tucson International with my Dad, who was taking lessons that day, and Tom, his squaddie, had to take the Mustang up for a check flight after maintenance. He saw me in the lobby and asked if I'd like to go up with him.

Well...yeah! He got my Dad's okay (via radio) and off we went for twenty five minutes, sometimes low enough over the desert to leave a dust roostertail behind us. It was strictly a passenger deal-no stick for the backseat- but I felt no wobbles, nor did the nose seem wander about; the plane tracked like it was on rails, although Tom was a pretty smooth pilot and it could have been all him.

We did loops, rolls, an Immelmann, and more than one sharp turn from altitudes 12-15,000 ft and down over the desert east of Tucson, on one occasion even seeming to fly between a couple of big sahuaro cactus.

I managed to keep my lunch down and my enthusiasm up through to the end of the flight. Admittedly, it was no Bob Hoover demonstration, but it was unquestionably a hoot.

cheers

horseback

p1ngu666
09-07-2006, 06:34 PM
recently had a flight in a dh rapide that was fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

same time period, they where used for various (non combat) tasks by the RAF in ww2. performance is probably close to a ww1 fighter, apart from aerobatics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

T_O_A_D
09-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Closest I have come is a flight in an AT-6 last summer. There is a link in my sig on it.

I would do it again in a heart beat.

carguy_
09-07-2006, 07:16 PM
Haven`t seen any posts about flying Bf/Me109 yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Corsair_Fanatic
09-07-2006, 07:29 PM
I've flown two WW2 vintage trainers (NA AT-6 and SNJ-4). You might want to try one of those first before you go whole hog on the Mustang. They'll be alot cheaper, and a helluva lot of fun.

fordfan25
09-07-2006, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by carguy_:
Haven`t seen any posts about flying Bf/Me109 yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif I flew a FW190 the other day. FYI the forward veiw was porked i almost slamed into a bridge. the thing i noticed the most was the rear WAS built out of spare tiger tank armour.

Crimea_River
09-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Well thanks all.

I'll let you know how it goes, unless I have to sell my computer to fund the ride!

LStarosta
09-07-2006, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by carguy_:
Haven`t seen any posts about flying Bf/Me109 yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

The USAAF didn't leave any flyable, IIRC.

WB_Outlaw
09-07-2006, 07:56 PM
I did a 45 minute ride in the Texas Raider (B-17) during a check-out flight for a new pilot in command. Did several circuits, a couple of touch and gos, and some boxes out over the water. Was amazing.

--Outlaw.

Tater-SW-
09-07-2006, 08:59 PM
B-24 (The Dragon and his Tail), and B-17 (Aluminum Overcast).

tater

jolly_magpie
09-07-2006, 09:00 PM
Hmmmm...In 1981 I flew in a DC-3 for the Alberta Forest Service. Twice!

NOISY.
SLOOWWWW.

But what a feeling in the cabin when the tail came up on takeoff! Landing on a grass airstrip was fun too. Today the plane is in the Reynolds Museum in Aberta, here's the URL to the pic 'cause it's big:

http://www.cahf.ca/Photo%20Gallery/images/hall2.jpg

PBNA-Boosher
09-07-2006, 09:05 PM
Does flying a little baby Piper Cherokee into MAAM and parking it next to a B-25 for 1/2 an hour count?

polak5
09-07-2006, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by jolly_magpie:
Hmmmm...In 1981 I flew in a DC-3 for the Alberta Forest Service. Twice!

NOISY.
SLOOWWWW.

But what a feeling in the cabin when the tail came up on takeoff! Landing on a grass airstrip was fun too. Today the plane is in the Reynolds Museum in Aberta, here's the URL to the pic 'cause it's big:


My uncle used to fly those in Mexico and would land them on the mountain villages. I remember my cusin and I would go on the trips with him and sometimes he would let us sit at the cockpit and mess with the controls. Those wer the days!

96th_Nightshifter
09-07-2006, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
Does flying a little baby Piper Cherokee into MAAM and parking it next to a B-25 for 1/2 an hour count?

I can say I have flown a Piper Cherokee but as for parking it next to a B-25, you got me on that one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ElAurens
09-07-2006, 09:48 PM
I was a passenger aboard "Yankee Warrior", the oldest flying B25 in the world.

slo_1_2_3
09-07-2006, 10:20 PM
Man i'm green with envy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif I don't think I've ever even seen a ww2 plane, other than a replica p-51 on a post in gatlindburg or pigeon forge or something like that,I have seen a b-2 bomber though, I'd trade that for a b-17 or something. I wish I could ride on too I'd love to go deaf .... provided it was in a ww2 bomber or fighter. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

p1ngu666
09-07-2006, 10:27 PM
slo, im sure ull see some, where u live?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zC111BoZ-4&mode=related&search=

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Dragon_Rapide

thats what i flew, 55quid inc a bbq and drinks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

warweapon2
09-07-2006, 11:24 PM
I got to fly a restored Fokker Dr. I.. One of the few that are flyable.. Needless to say it doesn't fly ANYTHING like modern aircraft or stuff from WWII era..

Scared the **** outta me too :P

GreyFox5
09-07-2006, 11:44 PM
Been up in this 1946 Aeronca Champ as close as I have been. (Champs were also used in WWII as observation planes)Cubs get all the attention http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/GreyFox5/070_CopalisStatebeachairfield.jpg

leitmotiv
09-07-2006, 11:55 PM
Good grief, Woof603, you received your RCAF wings the year I was born! What did you fly in the RCAF?

slipBall
09-07-2006, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Crimea_River:
So I've been thinking of biting the bullet and spending some siginicant coin on my life-long dream of taking a ride in a tandem seat P51. Anyone out there done this?

Where? How much? Experiences?

I know of this one:

https://www.stallion51.com/home.cfm

Any other links anyone out there? I know of a tandem Spitfire somewhere in the UK and I just saw someone post a vid from a ride in a Corsair.

Thanks!

p-51
This guy decribes the flight, and his feelings
http://www.warbirdalley.com/articles/p51pr.htm

WWMaxGunz
09-08-2006, 02:59 AM
How many completely weighted, powered, and otherwise as they flew in the war WWII fighters
exist or have existed since even 1960? That would include at least dummy guns in open ports.

Then step it back from there to unarmored, no guns, up-structured, souped-up, governed-down
or completely different engines and/or wings "warbirds".

I did used to have a book named "Ghosts" about the then-named Confederate Air Force. They
did come decently close so maybe find some of those guys. IIRC at least a couple collaborated
or tested on the original MSCFS.

It was a lot worse, the debates over Red Baron 2 and 3. The data was older and the replica
pilots at Old Rhinebeck did not relate well to questions about hard turns and ACM's that some
sim players would try and ask. I remember one guy who posted he kept getting the same answer
again and again... "why would you want to try that?". The pilot there had no desire to get
himself killed to test the limits of the replicas!

GAU-8
09-08-2006, 04:47 AM
a few years ago i was visiting a friend and his dad., they lived on a private grass strip airport in SW ? houston. anyways the dads friend had a tiger moth, and took me up in it a few times.scarf,headcap an all. pretty cool guy. i found it fun/intersting that his last name was "fowler" and that he loved flying.

jim? jimmy? james? fowler.

dont know if hes important to aviation..but if the name sounds familiar to any you let me know id like to see more for just curious research. about him.

Woof603
09-08-2006, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Good grief, Woof603, you received your RCAF wings the year I was born! What did you fly in the RCAF?

T6, T33, F86E, B18, C47. Great fun for a young kid. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

wayno7777
09-08-2006, 09:13 AM
Some places to do what you want are here.

http://www.warbirdalley.com/fly.htm
http://www.warbirdadventures.com/
http://www.natg.com/wbflights.html
http://www.barnstorming.com/prod_warbird.php
http://www.deltaaviation.co.uk/se/warbird_flights.htm
http://www.americanwarbird.com/
https://www.stallion51.com/flight_ops/flightops.cfm?axis_v=2
http://www.australianexplorer.com/experiences/experienc...ails.php?prodid=2646 (http://www.australianexplorer.com/experiences/experience_details.php?prodid=2646)
http://www.incredible-adventures.com/t33.html

Good luck! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif....

Crimea_River
09-08-2006, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by wayno7777:
Some places to do what you want are here.

http://www.warbirdalley.com/fly.htm
http://www.warbirdadventures.com/
http://www.natg.com/wbflights.html
http://www.barnstorming.com/prod_warbird.php
http://www.deltaaviation.co.uk/se/warbird_flights.htm
http://www.americanwarbird.com/
https://www.stallion51.com/flight_ops/flightops.cfm?axis_v=2
http://www.australianexplorer.com/experiences/experienc...ails.php?prodid=2646 (http://www.australianexplorer.com/experiences/experience_details.php?prodid=2646)
http://www.incredible-adventures.com/t33.html

Good luck! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif....

Thanks Wayno - PERFECT!

Prop_Strike
09-08-2006, 08:09 PM
There's a 2 seater P51D hangered at Caboolture(Brisbane,Australia), about 15 mins away from where I live.....the only problem is it costs about $2000(AUD) for about 15-20 mins.......bugger that!
There is a Nanchang at about $370 p/hour duel instruction that I'd like to try one day.

9th_Spitin
09-08-2006, 08:50 PM
I got to take the stick in a T-33 this summer, not used in WW2 but they were derived from the p-80 which was in WW2.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/kbbrech/P1010015.jpg

WB_Outlaw
09-08-2006, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
How many completely weighted, powered, and otherwise as they flew in the war WWII fighters
exist or have existed since even 1960? That would include at least dummy guns in open ports.


The Texas Raider I flew in had a complete set of M2 breeches in both waists, and the tail. The barrels were fake though. I walked through the bomb bay but the nose was full so I couldn't get up front so it may be gun free. The top turret is a bolt on but the ball turret is real. Sadly, the jerks wouldn't let me get in it.

--Outlaw.

Viper2005_
09-09-2006, 05:28 AM
I've got stick time in a Stearman.

Aaron_GT
09-09-2006, 08:59 AM
I've flown in a DC-3 with a group of friends. We decided to don A4 flying suits, B15 jackets, etc., for the flight. The one thing I noticed is that the steepness of the ascent felt, subjectively, steeper than on typical passenger flights. I was in an aisle seat, though, so it was hard to judge the actual angle.

Aaron_GT
09-09-2006, 09:00 AM
recently had a flight in a dh rapide that was fun


Ohhh you lucky barsteward! That's my all time favourite civilian aircraft!

MadBadVlad
09-09-2006, 09:15 AM
Not a fighter, but I did take a number of flights in a 1944 vintage Piper Cub in full WWII markings back in the early 1990's. I even used it partially for its original purpose ie. recon for archaeological sites visible from the air and taking aerial photographs of them. I believe it is still in the ownership of Tony Liddiard in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire. We used to take off from a steeply inclined grass strip, pull up across the valley and over the top of English Bicknor church - exhilarating stuff !!

Dtools4fools
09-09-2006, 03:44 PM
Not a fighter, but that (http://www.do-24.com/) would be intersting to fly...


*****

danjama
09-10-2006, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by carguy_:
Haven`t seen any posts about flying Bf/Me109 yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

The USAAF didn't leave any flyable, IIRC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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