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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:39 PM
Hi Oleg,

Did you model the planes with many machine guns to have jams/misfeeds or uneven amounts of ammo in different wings? I noticed this on the P40E/M, Hurrican IIb, and all P47s. When firing bursts from these planes, one wing always seems to have more bullets. It is fairly consistent by plane model. I get these results:

P40E/M - Left wing fires longer

Hurricane IIb - Left wing fires longer

P47(all models) - Right wing fires longer.

As the plane runs out of ammo unevenly the yawing effect of the recoil gets greater and greater. I tested some other planes(190A8, 109E7, Hurricane IIc for instance) with many guns to see if the same effect applies. All the others seem to run out of shells evenly.

I saw earlier that you were going to tone down the recoil effects because of complaints, which made me wonder if the the problem was rooted elsewhere. I would hate to see you change something you believed in when the problem was something else.

If this is an intended feature then I have no problem with that.

Thanks for your time...

DangerForward

P.S.: Sorry if this was stated by someone else, it's hard to keep track of all the message threads.



Message Edited on 11/05/0309:41PM by WUAF_Mj_Danger

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 10:39 PM
Hi Oleg,

Did you model the planes with many machine guns to have jams/misfeeds or uneven amounts of ammo in different wings? I noticed this on the P40E/M, Hurrican IIb, and all P47s. When firing bursts from these planes, one wing always seems to have more bullets. It is fairly consistent by plane model. I get these results:

P40E/M - Left wing fires longer

Hurricane IIb - Left wing fires longer

P47(all models) - Right wing fires longer.

As the plane runs out of ammo unevenly the yawing effect of the recoil gets greater and greater. I tested some other planes(190A8, 109E7, Hurricane IIc for instance) with many guns to see if the same effect applies. All the others seem to run out of shells evenly.

I saw earlier that you were going to tone down the recoil effects because of complaints, which made me wonder if the the problem was rooted elsewhere. I would hate to see you change something you believed in when the problem was something else.

If this is an intended feature then I have no problem with that.

Thanks for your time...

DangerForward

P.S.: Sorry if this was stated by someone else, it's hard to keep track of all the message threads.



Message Edited on 11/05/0309:41PM by WUAF_Mj_Danger

XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 11:50 PM
think it mostly effects small calibers which would be harder to count by the mechanics loading the plane, im pretty sure its intended, its handy coz it lets you knwo when you're really low on abo, but still ahve abit left

XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 12:29 AM
the_knightsofni wrote:
- think it mostly effects small calibers which would
- be harder to count by the mechanics loading the
- plane, im pretty sure its intended, its handy coz it
- lets you knwo when you're really low on abo, but
- still ahve abit left
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-

It's realistic, but not quite, because it's scriped, so EVERY time the far right .303 on the hurricane runs out of ammo last, and the right MG's on the P-40 always run out of ammo later aswell

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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 03:36 AM
Hmmm I seriously doubt the ground crews were at fault . All Most all military ammo for any belt fed gun comes in a standard amount such as 100 round or 250 round belts are the most common sizes but there are many odd sizes out there mostly for a certain gun and mount combos. So if the ground crews forgot a belt it should have VERY noticable. I have read in a FEW cases were pilots took the time to take the tracers out and replaced them with ap rounds But that shouldnt have affected the ammo count ( unless you were fling the plane that had the belts that he took the ammo out of lol) . The only other explanation is some sort of mechanical defaculty such as a wing spar or another peice of the plane getting in the way of the ammo tracks so they had to shortin them.
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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 06:41 AM
Ammo was bulk shipped in the ww2 era, and was belted via linking machine, which was hand fed.

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Message Edited on 11/06/0305:49AM by BaronVonSnoopy