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Hristos
04-04-2005, 01:09 AM
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0155.jpg

http://www.cris.com/~Twist/airwar/p51/p51d.jpg

Charos
04-04-2005, 01:16 AM
Impressive Score Hristos.

I wanted to destroy something beautiful - Tyler Durden. The best looking Spitfire I ever saw was a Pyre of molten alloy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Orion_GR
04-15-2005, 09:42 AM
Very nice score !

Spitf_ACE
04-15-2005, 10:38 AM
Shouldn't the subject title be "MG 151/20, P-51 and Hristo Stoichkov"? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I was really looking forward to an interesting story from 1994. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

TX-Gunslinger
04-15-2005, 10:42 AM
S~ Awesome work, incredible score.

carguy_
04-15-2005, 12:09 PM
A good score to say the least.Show me your online war stats,Hristo.This is the place where best pilots fly.Nothing impressive.Is that your life record?

LW needs recruits like you.However the sad thing is that those great DF server pilots are heavily verified in online wars.Most of them can`t take the beating.

Oh and 13 thousand something bullets fired and 540 hit.Hmmm.Let me see..If I didn`t miscalculate it`s a 3,91% accuracy LOL!

Nothing to be seen here,move along.

Atomic_Marten
04-15-2005, 12:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
A good score to say the least.Show me your online war stats,Hristo.This is the place where best pilots fly.Nothing impressive.Is that your life record?

LW needs recruits like you.However the sad thing is that those great DF server pilots are heavily verified in online wars.Most of them can`t take the beating.

Oh and 13 thousand something bullets fired and 540 hit.Hmmm.Let me see..If I didn`t miscalculate it`s a 3,91% accuracy LOL!

Nothing to be seen here,move along. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL. Now that's funny I think. I bet there's only few guys online in general that can achieve that kind of score. And you say nothing there.. gee man what would make you say: hey now that's something? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif You are tough one to please. http://acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/images/smiles/riseyebr.gif

In fact who else have 31:1 kill/death there? (Except of course unbeatable Dreyer vs. Hartmann machine, the official No1. all time turbo champion of IL2 game --I hope that I recall that one correctly-- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif)

Hristos
04-15-2005, 12:29 PM
Yes, my shooting is crappy, to say the least. However, when I upgraded from 2500+ to 3200+ I gained 1% http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

As for score, it isn't my best. Once in Aces High I did 50+:0, until a PT boat got me. Both streak were in Dora.

The best streak I know of was a guy called Fishu. He flew Fw 190A-8 exclusively and got 220+:0 !! Against P-51Ds, F4Us, Typhoons, Spitfires but also other 190s and 109s.

Now move along, I don't like talking about my score. In fact, I'm removing the link right now - too much pressure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Online war ? Well, I simply don't want to spend an hour waiting for a half an hour mission. Nothing against online wars, just not my cup of tea, being time limited and so.

anarchy52
04-15-2005, 12:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
LW needs recruits like you.However the sad thing is that those great DF server pilots are heavily verified in online wars.Most of them can`t take the beating.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I disagree, I think Hristo's score is pretty impressive. Amazin even. I never had the patience for DF servers myself.
I do agree that online wars are tougher then DF since often you'll engage the enemy under unfavorable conditions. On the other hand you'll often come accross Ai planes...which depending on the situation can be good or very very very bad (think of AI veterans in thunderstorm) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Best I managed in online wars was about 16:1 K/D ratio (and for short time only). Carguy: what is your online war callsign?

F19_Olli72
04-15-2005, 01:59 PM
If you look more closely into the sorties theres some fishy stuff there. But maybe thats why he removed the link from his sig http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hristos
04-15-2005, 02:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F19_Olli72:
If you look more closely into the sorties theres some fishy stuff there. But maybe thats why he removed the link from his sig http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Ever heard of being called a cheater is the greatest compliment to your achievements ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

In past six years I play these sims I've been called a cheater so many times is isn't even funny.

And I'll repeat what I said earlier :

Whenever you see me fly online, film your sorties ! Take screenshots if you need to. If anyone catches me cheating, he is free to announce it on this very board and I'll admit it ! So far nobody came up with even a shed of evidence.

On a lighter note, I remember a line somebody said back in Aces High few years ago: "I'm not warping, I'm just that good !" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LeadSpitter_
04-15-2005, 02:56 PM
so wheres the score? this page took 5 minutes to loadup.

Someone post a link again. I want to see if it beats by 12 spit kills while flying the 190a4 in one run. The server was cz_ah_decicated and map was normandie, 190a4 and 109g2 spawned at the east base spitfires and hurricanes spawned in the north island but no one used hurricanes.

F19_Olli72
04-15-2005, 03:11 PM
Cheater Hristos? I certainly did not call you that...at least i dont see where i wrote it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But im kinda wondering why theres for example a sortie where 2:30 into it says "disconnected from game". Then a couple of minutes later your back online. Theres a couple of scenarios why that couldve happened but thats one thing were never going to know without track. Right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also theres a couple 'incomplete' sorties like this one:
"00:00 Sortie Start
09:48 Control's rendered useless by GH_Aufpassen!'s P-47D-27. "

No landing, no crash, no nothing....its hard to judge what happened there dont you agree?

Hristos
04-16-2005, 02:23 AM
Yes, I've had my share of game lockups and connection drops at one time or another. I've been pingkicked few times as well. However, all this never interfered with anyone's flying, much less fighting me. For now, at least.

Warclouds has experienced players flying online and I'm sure someone would notice me disconnecting when in trouble. All he has to do then is send tracks to admin. I know I did that two times. It is simple to detect too - if you see a plane disapear and at the same time the message "player XXXX has left", that's it.

Trust me also when I say that under fire I'm too nervous to even think about disconnecting. I think of it when it is already too late http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Controls rendered useless was really when the mentioned pilot jumped me. However, it seems I was lucky and server dropped connection with stats page. Otherwise, an end to the sortie would have been listed, be that a death or landing.

Check anyone's stats on Warclouds. You'll get great discrepancies with number of sorties vs number of landigns/deaths. Also, number of kills listed is NEVER matched by numbers of kills you get when listing all your sorties.

The fact is that FB/PF doesn't have online stats and kill registering mechanisms on par with dedicated online games like Acies High or Warbirds. Too bad, and I hope new patches will fix it.

Capt.LoneRanger
04-16-2005, 03:51 AM
I'm with Leadspitter. If this is a "praise myself" thread, can you give us a link to your score? Or even better share the tracks with us?

I also wonder if you got these scores online or offline, or under what callsign? Didn't find you on any official stat-servers??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Hristos
04-16-2005, 04:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
I'm with Leadspitter. If this is a "praise myself" thread, can you give us a link to your score? Or even better share the tracks with us?

I also wonder if you got these scores online or offline, or under what callsign? Didn't find you on any official stat-servers??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's a simple suggestion for all the naysayers.

Look me up on War Clouds and try to shoot me down !

If that proves too much for you, you can always come back here and question my stats http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

carguy_
04-16-2005, 04:42 AM
Ofcourse it`s not your cup of tea,that`s why we will never meet in air.Besides shooting down planes with accuracy of 3,91%(a miracle!) these stats don`t show much else.Are you good at achieving mission objectives?Do you help your teammates?

For all I know you can be cruising @6000m waiting for an unsuspecting enemy to go up.I wonder how you do in escort sorties.

I don`t mind your mentality:shoot stuff down.OK with me.

Even if online war sorties can be generic,the DF servers are a fantasy.

Capt.LoneRanger
04-16-2005, 04:46 AM
You seem to have a LOT of trouble with disconnects? If you fly as "Hristo" online, you flew more than 35 sorties and landed safely 12 times, only one time bailed, one time KIA. What happened the other times? Not implying anything here, just curious.

Hristos
04-16-2005, 05:31 AM
Maybe I didn't make myself clear, so let me reiterate:

Carguy, Olli and Cpt.Loneranger, look me up online and shoot me down !

until then - blow me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

To keep you motivated, bookmark this link (http://www.stats.war-clouds.com/wf/playerdetails.php?id=113).

P.S.
Now that I think of it, War Clouds seems to be poor marksmen server (http://www.stats.war-clouds.com/wf/index.php). Most people hold about 1-5% in air to air gunnery, while top shooters keep no more than 6-7% in air to air gunnery .

Oh, mighty Carguy from Ubi forums, please come to WarClouds and teach us how to shoot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Von_Rat
04-16-2005, 07:30 AM
the sorties part of on warclouds stats, almost never record correctly.

nice score hristos.

i beleive mantis got 57? kills before 1st death not long ago.

ive only managed 23 without getting killed.

Atomic_Marten
04-16-2005, 08:21 AM
I believe the good results online does not come from an unhuman flying skills (and gunnery too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif); instead it is more likely that they are produced because of what I like to call "smart flying".

Another words, player who plays it that way will rarely provide his opponents a chance to shot him down.

How many players online are doing that? Not many I can tell. Since mission load, everyone jumps in their crates and more or less disorganized, they hurry in enemy base direction. A lot of them take solo bomber runs in their HE111, IL2s deep behind enemy lines like they are SAS guys or something. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

And they soon find themselves into frenzy furball with 5> enemy fighters, in which case even ACE AI evading moves wouldn't help them.

About online statistic in terms of landing etc. c'mon guys gimme a break. Any of you who fly regularly online knows that *only* thing about that statistic that can be taken as it is, is kills/deaths. About landings, crashes etc. that all may be messed.(many because of loading new mission).

FatBoyHK
04-16-2005, 08:35 AM
Stats is very inaccurate.... even if it is accurate, it still means very little. It may be a good tool for tracking your own progress, but for pilot comparson? No way.

But if you do care, Mantis and I have over 7% accuracy and over 10:1 kind ratio.... before a impersonator came in and kinda ruined our stats...

But as I juts said, stats mean very little, therefore no big deal for us http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hristos
04-16-2005, 08:39 AM
I wouldn't mention anything below 10% before Carguy, the gunnery god http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I agree with Marten. K/D has more to do with smart flying than with flying or gunnery skills. I bet your usual deck turnfighter has better gunnery than most K/D players, as well as being superior in 1 on 1 fights. K/D players are better in staying alive no matter the situation. A matter of practice.

Covino
04-16-2005, 08:54 AM
Another game I play is Warbirds FreeHost. It's basically Warbirds II completely free. And I have to say, some amazing flyers go there. Warbirds has a very good stats tracking system and stats are all organized on the website. Here are the top aces, 92 kills with dying or being captured is the highest at the moment but I've seen it over 100.
Top Aces (http://scores.wbfree.net/cgi-bin/wbstat.cgi?showlist=5&type=f&istop=on&tod=current)
Also, all the stats are reset every "war" or "tour of duty" so every couple months, everyone start new.

EDIT: I've only been in top ten once for a bit during a tour of duty with about 25 kills.

Hristos
04-16-2005, 09:12 AM
http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/105score/105stats.pl

type in player name "Fishu"

That is the best K/D I've ever seen, and it stands for more than 5 years now !

BuzzU
04-16-2005, 09:49 AM
Hristos,

You seem to want to prove you're a good pilot, and I can't blame you for that. I would too if I wasn't an old blind fart. If I was you i'd enter some competition that keeps accurate stats. Have you thought of Crash's DF competition?

Hristos
04-16-2005, 10:17 AM
Hmm, while many may think otherwise, i don't like talking about myself too much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So, let's drop it, please ...

Vipez-
04-16-2005, 10:25 AM
humm, anyone else thing how funny is how this guy likes to brag about himself..

I see you like your stats, so maybe you should give try online wars, so we really see what you are made off (besides a very big mouth http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

Hristos
04-16-2005, 10:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
humm, anyone else thing how funny is how this guy likes to brag about himself..

I see you like your stats, so maybe you should give try online wars, so we really see what you are made off (besides a very big mouth http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Etiam tu, mi fili ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

jurinko
04-16-2005, 11:43 AM
ok Hristo now tell us where Gotovina is!!

Hristos
04-16-2005, 11:45 AM
I don't know ! Honestly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

He might be in Cuba with Adolf, Elvis and RBJ.

Jumoschwanz
04-16-2005, 01:48 PM
3.91% hit rate is not a bad hit rate at all. It is in fact average. If you look over the stats for anyone online that has a few dozen kills oftentimes thier hit rates are right around this.

The bad hit rates seem to be the ones that are less than 2%, and if someone can keep the hit rate up between 5% and 15% over two or three dozen online kills then this is above average.

I think right now my hit rate is about 7% on Spits_vs_109s, and on greatergreen, where I only have one or two missions and two kills I am at over 16%, but this will go way down after a few more missions and shots.

If someone does everything right, and has a few brains, then a 4% hit rate will do the job just fine. S!

Jumoschwanz

BuzzU
04-16-2005, 02:18 PM
I think your style has more to do with it than your gunnery skills.

What I mean is if you wait until you're 100m away before you shoot, then your hit average will be pretty high. Especially if you're using a one hit cannon.

On the other hand if you're flying a plane with only .50's, and start firing at 400m, you'll have a lot of misses even if you're getting a lot of kills.

Atomic_Marten
04-16-2005, 03:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
I think your style has more to do with it than your gunnery skills.

What I mean is if you wait until you're 100m away before you shoot, then your hit average will be pretty high. Especially if you're using a one hit cannon.

On the other hand if you're flying a plane with only .50's, and start firing at 400m, you'll have a lot of misses even if you're getting a lot of kills. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah I totaly agree. If you like to BnZ, your gunnery hit/miss ratio will be fairly low compared to close fighting (for agile fighters like I16 close combat is the only thing to do, and you can achieve a considerable hit/miss ratio then).

For example, if one use nose MK108 in Bf109, he can waste 20 cannon and lotta MG ammo, just to hit enemy fighter twice with MK108 and destroy him.

It all depends on style (much more) and type of guns/aircraft.

Other thing what is important for BnZers is to disable choosen target as soon as possible, (with every missed pass they slowly lose advantage) and that means that they will waste lotta ammo.

Hristos
04-16-2005, 05:04 PM
Definitely agree on points above.

For example, if you use MK108 armed 109 and go for deflection shot, all MG131 rounds and all but one MK108 round will miss. But that one golden MK108 round will get you the kill. After that sortie you'll have gunnery of about 1% http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

My "style" is to go for 90 degrees snapshots no matter what I fly. I fire and hope enemy will pass through my bullet stream. With a total of 6 guns on a 190, you can imagine how many rounds are put in the air. If only few of those hit, it is enough to score a kill, but gunnery is down the toilet.

At times I sneaked upon an enemy and fired from point blank, no maneuvering involved. When I landed, I hoped of gunnery of about 80%, as that's how it looked like. Much to my surprise, it never went above 20% http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SnapdLikeAMutha
04-16-2005, 05:36 PM
kill some ships or something, god****ed n00b http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Hristos
04-16-2005, 05:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SnapdLikeAMutha:
kill some ships or something, god****ed n00b http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You think I'd hit with my gunnery ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif