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F0_Dark_P
05-25-2009, 05:40 PM
Hello gents!

There are one thing that buggers me...

I been playing this game for ages but I have never stumbled upon a "pilots notes" or a complete guide for the spitfire.

First of I don't speak English natively so it is hard for me to explain.. but I hope you understand me.


OK, here we go, (before someone shouts this out..) I own several "Pilots notes" to the Spitfire but these are for the real world one but those are not quite the same..

The airplane we have in the game is totally different performance wise to the real deal, so that means that i cant fly after the books unfortunately.

To give a example.. I can not set the prop and boost according to the manual and she never overheats etc.. it is all off!.


As i said it is hard for me to explain, but the in game Spitfire is different then the real one.. i need a guide that talks about what the in game Spitfire i capable of, a guide that explains how you can push every single drop of preformance from her.

There are ones for the fw190 that explains how you should climb and how to use the prop pitch etc.. for example in the real world they used Komandogerat on the fw190, but it don't work the same in the game.. and that is the same with the Spitfire.


So you understand what i need?, I need a specialized guide for the Spitfire in the game

Have i been looking in the wrong places?

If someone can find me a good guide i would be quite a happy man! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

danjama
05-25-2009, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
she never overheats etc.. it is all off!.



wrong

Before i write you off as a troll, i'll ask what version you're running, and which spitfires your flying, and in which environment....

F0_Dark_P
05-25-2009, 05:57 PM
For example in the MK9 booklet it says that it is 5 minutes limit on full boost with a temp @ 135įC but i have pushed 140+ for ages.. I dont know exact times but it feels quite off

danjama
05-25-2009, 06:38 PM
Well i think engine overheats are simplified.

Just to be clear, are you running with complex engine management on and made sure "no overheat" is unchecked....

BillSwagger
05-25-2009, 07:40 PM
With Boost on a Spit, i open the radiator, set prop pitch to 85 or 90 and i notice a bit better performance. Its the same with a tempest.

I know of no manual for the game that goes into how to fly the spitfire. The most you can do is practice and play with the engine offline and find where its sweet spot is.

WskyStr8
05-26-2009, 01:17 AM
Try here

http://www.angelsandairspeed.c...wtopic.php?f=1&t=203 (http://www.angelsandairspeed.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=203)

It's for the Vb.

M_Gunz
05-26-2009, 02:41 AM
You might want to search Bremspropeller's posts in the last month (more like the last week) about overheat.
As he and others have stated, how long a plane can run in overheat is not a fixed time. The five minute
limit has a big safety margin and had to apply to planes with worn engines as well as the new ones we
always have in-game. The limit is also more about engine wear though yes you could break the motor.

There is also what you are doing, how much load you are putting on the hot engine though it's hard to get
one hot without loading it down. One way is sitting on the ground at idle too long, the radiator is not
in the propwash.

Your English is very good. It is above the average used here. But one thing you might want to know is
that while "bugs" is like bothered, "buggers" is something else you probably don't want. You might as
well use the word "gay" to mean happy or joyful, which it used to mean.

K_Freddie
05-26-2009, 04:52 AM
Did you say your name was.. Roger Ring !!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


Now see what you've started, Gunzie ..
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F0_Dark_P
05-26-2009, 05:11 AM
About the overheat.. OK it can change depending on the situation there are many factors as you said, but when I am flying the MK9 I just cant use the settings the pilots notes give me 100%.

For example in automatic prop setting i should get 2270-2370 rpm with +7 boost according to the pilots notes, but in the game i will get about 2900 rpm in +7 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I don't see that the Spit is done quite right here.. but guys! i am not bashing il2 for this it is just how the game was made I guess, many factors.. anyway I just wanted a proper guide that compensates for this.


But thanks guys, especially you WskyStr8 that guide is something what i wanted, I will read this carefully http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

And M_Gunz thanks for the English lesson, i will remember that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tully__
05-26-2009, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by M_Gunz:
...Your English is very good. It is above the average used here. But one thing you might want to know is
that while "bugs" is like bothered, "buggers" is something else you probably don't want....
Actually the way F0_Dark_P used it is pretty common slang in Australia, or used to be when I was younger anyway. Not necessarily polite slang... but common all the same.

WskyStr8
05-26-2009, 06:08 PM
Your welcome Dark_P, glad to be of help but I only provided the link. The bloke you should really be thanking is the author, Paul Forbes at www.angelsandairspeed.com (http://www.angelsandairspeed.com) I'm sure he'd appreciate knowing his work is useful to you.

VW-IceFire
05-26-2009, 08:02 PM
The Spitfire isn't the most complex WWII fighter...either in real life or in-game. Its not an experts plane like a FW190, Tempest or Thunderbolt.

What the Spitfire is good at is being a good all around fighter. Its relatively fast, its got a good turn radius, it climbs well, and its nearly always competitive in the year that its competing in. There aren't allot of tricks you can learn about the Spitfire for the IL-2 world...the IX in particular is all auto controlled mixture, radiator, etc. There are no benefits (unlike the FW190 or Tempest) to working with any of the manual options available to you.

So what you need to focus on ...is being a good pilot. Smooth effective and deliberate control combined with air combat tactics that are common to all fighters will make you more than a run of the mill online Spitfire pilot.

jamesblonde1979
05-26-2009, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Tully__:

Actually the way F0_Dark_P used it is pretty common slang in Australia, or used to be when I was younger anyway. Not necessarily polite slang... but common all the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKnPSJE6Qoc

You guys might like this. It is Australian and not from NZ as the caption in youtube says. Apparently it was banned in NZ for the word 'bugger'. Go figure. Personally I found it quite funny.

TinyTim
05-27-2009, 08:11 AM
They were saying every monkey could fly a (real) spitfire.

They are saying IL-2 is the best WW2 simulation around.

--> You don't need a manual.

freakvollder
05-27-2009, 11:37 AM
I donít know if you know this:
http://web.comhem.se/%7Eu85627360/inpursuit.pdf

This guide includes very good rules fore all aircraft in the sim.
The Spitfire MkIX fore example is on of the best high altitude fighter in the sim. Use energy tactics to success. Donít turn to much; go high use the energy advantage and for the killer shoot you can use the very good turn.

The Spit is an energy fighter IMHO http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TinyTim
05-27-2009, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by freakvollder:
The Spit is an energy fighter IMHO http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

One of if not the best indeed.

Being an excellent stall fighter doesn't automatically mean it's bad at E handling.

Mr_Zooly
05-27-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm pretty sure I have a MKXIV operation manual (a replica of course) somewhere.

doogerie
05-27-2009, 03:53 PM
you saod that you have spitfire yourself (that is so cool)it is posibel that the MK that you fly in real life ad the MK that you fly in game ar diffrentremeber that the war went of for 8 years(i think thats wright) and in that time there were lodes of inovations there were well over 5 types of spit's made inthhat time and thats not including the sea fire you may be flinga version in real life that is not in the game just a thaught of couse with things like M$T and stuff you may be abel to find you model

Tully__
05-28-2009, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tully__:

Actually the way F0_Dark_P used it is pretty common slang in Australia, or used to be when I was younger anyway. Not necessarily polite slang... but common all the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKnPSJE6Qoc

You guys might like this. It is Australian and not from NZ as the caption in youtube says. Apparently it was banned in NZ for the word 'bugger'. Go figure. Personally I found it quite funny. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
One of a long series of adds for the same product in a similar style. That campaign was advertising gold http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

freakvollder
05-30-2009, 10:41 AM
I have found some useful links fore you

look here:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com...ex.php/Spitfire_Mk_I (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Spitfire_Mk_I)

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com...ex.php/Spitfire_Mk_V (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Spitfire_Mk_V)

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com...php/Spitfire_Mk_VIII (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Spitfire_Mk_VIII)

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com...x.php/Spitfire_Mk_IX (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/Spitfire_Mk_IX)

http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/Spitfire5.htm

http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/Spitfire8.htm

http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/Spitfire9.htm

I hope this is enough fore the time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Salute

M_Gunz
06-03-2009, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
About the overheat.. OK it can change depending on the situation there are many factors as you said, but when I am flying the MK9 I just cant use the settings the pilots notes give me 100%.

For example in automatic prop setting i should get 2270-2370 rpm with +7 boost according to the pilots notes, but in the game i will get about 2900 rpm in +7 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Don't run automatic prop then? Really, control the rpm on manual and see what result you get. Is good enough?
I only expect so much from IL2. It's got to run all these planes, do so many things at once, can't be only so perfect.