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x__CRASH__x
11-16-2004, 12:18 AM
I was messing around with "**** Planes" in my research for Ghost Skies. SO I gave the Ki-43 a try. I opened up the scope and fought a couple of other Ki-43's in the QMB. How the he|| are you supposed to aim with that thing? Is it supposed to be used as a dog fighting reticle? What a piece of ****!

actionhank1786
11-16-2004, 12:24 AM
I hate it too.
Constantly having to drop out of the site mode,and back to your **** pit to see where that **** plane dissapeared to...
crafty Japanese...

k5054
11-16-2004, 01:07 AM
It's true to life. RAF Hurricane pilots in Burma used to escape Oscars by diving to tree-top level and flying around hills and buildings, knowing the Oscar pilots couldn't fly and shoot at the same time. Three or four Oscars are said to have crashed trying. The Oscars did OK against Hurris, despite the sight and poor armament. Later Oscars had a proper reflector sight.

hobnail
11-16-2004, 01:44 AM
The Telescopic sight was a precursor to the ubiquitous reflector sight.

Although a bead and ring sight would've been just as useful IMHO http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

x__CRASH__x
11-16-2004, 01:52 AM
just as useful? No, just as useful would have been straping binoculars to the pilots head. A bean and ring sight would have been worlds better!

hobnail
11-16-2004, 02:03 AM
The reason, as I suspect it, was that a bead and ring sight was inaccurate as it forced a pilot, his head moving around, to concentrate on lining up the two sights at close focus as well as a maneuvering tartget at infinite focus -> bad accuracy.

The scope sight merely provided a crosshair which appeared at long focus and forced the pilot to place his head in the right spot, the reflector sight does the same but is more elegant.

JG53Frankyboy
11-16-2004, 02:20 AM
you can aim without focusing. but unfortunalty the "lines" in the sight are very thick.

and if you are "in" the telescopic view the lines are very thin ( http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) BUT made not the cross. so you cant aim exactly again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

x__CRASH__x
11-16-2004, 02:25 AM
I found that in telescope view I couldn't stay on the target's six because he would quickly move out of my view. In normal mode I had a hell of a time because he would get behind that ridiculous scope and would be hidden from view!

Tully__
11-16-2004, 02:41 AM
I managed to scuff the paint on an F6F using a similar sight in the Val earlier today in a DF server.

Ruy Horta
11-16-2004, 02:42 AM
Don't be silly...

At the regular cockpit view at the right magnification its almost as effective as any other sight in the game, only in telescopic mode does it become difficult.

I use the latter only at long range to either help ID a target and if I'm trying to hit from long range on a straight six o'clock setup.

Just a matter of getting use to (or forgetting the use of the reflector sight).

The Ki 43 is one of those suprising delights in the game.

x__CRASH__x
11-16-2004, 03:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
I managed to scuff the paint on an F6F using a similar sight in the Val earlier today in a DF server. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You ran into him, eh? Typical Tully.

DIRTY-MAC
11-16-2004, 03:21 AM
Im having real trouble in aming in this sight
yester day I was ruling over a F4U in a Val!
and I though man that plane is a tough bastard
then when I had emptied all my ammo I looked
at his plane and he didnt have a scratsh,
and Im usually a pretty desent aimer, but
apparently I missed with everything,
or maybe I just had a really bad day?
well neither way, it is harder to use than
any other aiming devices in the game

hobnail
11-16-2004, 04:03 AM
F4U is a pretty sturdy steed, you need to pluck out his eyes or kick his legs out from under him, you won't bludgeon him to death.

Tully__
11-16-2004, 04:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ruy Horta:
Don't be silly...

At the regular cockpit view at the right magnification its almost as effective as any other sight in the game, only in telescopic mode does it become difficult.

I use the latter only at long range to either help ID a target and if I'm trying to hit from long range on a straight six o'clock setup.

Just a matter of getting use to (or forgetting the use of the reflector sight).

The Ki 43 is one of those suprising delights in the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

ElAurens
11-16-2004, 05:21 AM
I find the "sniper scope" to be just that. It's great for dropping rounds right in the cockpit, or picking particular pieces off an enemy aircraft.

As used on the Val it has made my day as a dive bomber. I'll never fly the POS Stuka again.

bird_brain
11-16-2004, 05:28 AM
I forget who the pilot was in Korea, but he got pissed off at the stupid gyro reflector gunsight shorting out on him in his Sabre, so he stuck a piece of gum to the windshield and used that for his gunsight. Shot down a few Migs that way.

You could try that with the Oscar & Val. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ElAurens
11-16-2004, 05:32 AM
You may just have found the cure for those no bullit holes in canopy yet the reflector sight is destroyed problems.

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Lt.Davis
11-16-2004, 05:39 AM
I assign the 'shift F1' gunsign mode to my joystick, so i can aim and back to normal view without losing enemy. To me it's very tough bird. I down F4U and P-51 with Ki-43. It's my favour bird now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

NegativeGee
11-16-2004, 07:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bird_brain:
I forget who the pilot was in Korea, but he got pissed off at the stupid gyro reflector gunsight shorting out on him in his Sabre, so he stuck a piece of gum to the windshield and used that for his gunsight. Shot down a few Migs that way. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, that would be "Gabby" Gabreski of the chuck-it-out brigade http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif He got 6.5 MiGs in Korea, although he was a very experienced from his WW2 flying as well (18 kills?).

mortoma
11-16-2004, 08:38 AM
I just aim with it without ever going to the up close telescope view ( Ctrl + F1 ) and I never have any problem aiming with it. I can get just as many kills in a KI-43 this way as I can in any other plane. I've killed B-25s, P-39/400s out the you know what in this fashion. Maybe a P-40 or two also.

TacticalYak3
11-16-2004, 08:47 AM
At 5 meters behind the enemy's plane who needs a stinky gunsight anyway! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

jeroen_R90S
11-16-2004, 09:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TacticalYak3:
At 5 meters behind the enemy's plane who needs a stinky gunsight anyway! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then you've got to catch him first! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

p1ngu666
11-16-2004, 09:18 AM
really hope we get later ki43 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
reflector sight, cannons, abit of armour http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

JG53Frankyboy
11-16-2004, 09:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
really hope we get later ki43 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
reflector sight, cannons, abit of armour http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

only two of all the Ki-43 had 20mm canons !

the two prototypes of the Ki-43-IIIOtsu.

faustnik
11-16-2004, 09:47 AM
The Ki-43IIb would be a good addition. Faster and a reflector sight.