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dazza9806482
05-17-2005, 02:52 AM
Hi guys

As my exams come to a close im thinking of changing my stick,

I currently have a Cyborg 3d Rumble Force, which is ok- apart from its slow decline into inaccuracy.

However one thing ive come to realise (rather staggeringly) is that my sticks rumbling isnt actually proper force feedback!

The idea of proper FF that actually provides a far greater range of resistance and force sounds cool.

so, my question- whats the best and cheapist force feedback stick? Oxymoronic i know, but my means are limited and an X52 may be a relationship breaker!

-HH-Dubbo
05-17-2005, 03:40 AM
Depends on what you mean by cheap. If you can find one a Microsoft FFB2 is hard to beat. Mine is getting worn after 4 years but aside from one periodic deadspot with the hatswitch, it's still works very well. I think I paid $120 Cdn for mine. (I burned through 3 Logitechs in 3 months before picking this one up)
I think my replacement one will be a Saitek Cyborg evo Force (What can I say, short of getting rudder pedals, I really like a twist rudder) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif No idea how much it costs though. Says 59.99 pounds (I don't know how to do the symbol for that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif) I have to see if I can find one in Canada

major_setback
05-17-2005, 03:50 AM
Here's one that's no too expensive, the Logitech Force 3D. I think this might be quite an old stick now!! I don't know how well it works. Costs 37 dollars.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/productlist/US/EN,CRID=2214,CONTENTID=9709

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=987122


Here's a couple of reviews of it:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/wingman3dforcefeedback.php

http://gear.ign.com/articles/324/324343p1.html

A newer stick:

http://www.joy-stick.net/reviews/joysticks/stikeforce.htm

Good luck with your search! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dazza9806482
05-17-2005, 03:51 AM
Thanks Dubbo, yeah I had considered a FFB2 however im a bit reticent about getting a second hand stick, at least if i get one and break it, it will be my doing. i would be annoyed getting an even slightly gammy stick

At the moment im also considering the saitek evo force- the 3d rumble was pretty sturdy- in fact i dropped it off my desk 3 times and it was still (largely) intact!

anyone got a evo force? worth getting?

(funny thing is, I know my 3d rumble is gubbed and i think i now fly to compensate for it!)

Aero_Shodanjo
05-17-2005, 04:35 AM
This may not be interesting for you since I live thousand miles away from your area, I think....

But I saw a brand new force feedback stick in my town (brand unknown to me as I only gave it a quick glance) that priced for less than $20.

Just to let you know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ankanor
05-17-2005, 04:52 AM
just stay away from Logitech joysticks. I have a Freedom 2.4 cordless. Worked flawlessly for 3 months and app. 200 hours of flying. Then it dropped off. I got a replacement but it is starting to act weird again. The Saiteks are good ones, despite their nost so good design http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Bearcat99
05-17-2005, 05:57 AM
Try here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html).

dazza9806482
05-17-2005, 08:21 AM
Thanks Bearcat, Ive seen that website before

not sure they ship to Glasgow tho! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

thanks guys- evoforce looks a good bet, although there are a few FFB2's on ebay.....

Lucius_Esox
05-17-2005, 09:51 AM
Interesting -HH-Dubbo
I've got a 4yr old MS FF2 and I have got a peroidic deadspot in the Hatswitch as well.

Well it's not that interesting really but I thought I would share that

major_setback
05-17-2005, 10:41 AM
These will go all the way to Glasgow.

http://www.rcsimulations.com/switch.htm

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fliegeroffizier
05-17-2005, 11:31 AM
Consider getting one of these...DON'T bid more than $20. They originally sold in retail stores for $80.
Lots don't like Logitech, but mine has worked fine now for more than two years...I even bought two extras as backup, just in case.

Logitech Wingman StrikeForce 3D(force feedback stick) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=74944&item=5196974710&rd=1)

-HH-Dubbo
05-17-2005, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Fliegeroffizier:
"Consider getting one of these...DON'T bid more than $20. They originally sold in retail stores for $80.
Lots don't like Logitech, but mine has worked fine now for more than two years...I even bought two extras as backup, just in case."

Do you have rudder pedals or do you use the twist grip? Curious because it was the rudder that went all 3 times (and it didn't just go dead - it would flick to either side at random and with alarming frequency) I figure if you lock the grip rudder and use pedals from day one, the problems that I had would never have happened. (I wish I could trust Logitec again. Those sticks are cheaper and easier to come by)

Dazza, check this site http://www.dxmarket.com/saitek/products/PS27V.html

dazza9806482
05-17-2005, 01:14 PM
Was just watching an X45 on ebay, (not ff i know!) if it was going cheap enough i was going to buy it

it went for 70! thats the same price as new isnt it?

what a muppet!

Ankanor
05-17-2005, 02:10 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this is the price for a new X-52 on Ebay. Here in Germany it's for like 100 Euros

dazza9806482
05-18-2005, 03:14 AM
Just bought a second hand Cyborg 3d Force Feedback for 25 quid....

basically the same as my old stick but with proper force feedback!

hopefully its in good nick- i like the 3d cos i have big hands.

seems like a bargain?

TAGERT.
05-18-2005, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by dazza9806482:
Hi guys

As my exams come to a close im thinking of changing my stick,

I currently have a Cyborg 3d Rumble Force, which is ok- apart from its slow decline into inaccuracy.

However one thing ive come to realise (rather staggeringly) is that my sticks rumbling isnt actually proper force feedback!

The idea of proper FF that actually provides a far greater range of resistance and force sounds cool.

so, my question- whats the best and cheapist force feedback stick? Oxymoronic i know, but my means are limited and an X52 may be a relationship breaker! I have tried just about all of them.. I got the first CH Force Feedback stick when it came out some 6 or 6 years ago.. I have a cyborg evo.. it is **** in comparsion to the Microsoft Force Feedback line of sticks. But MS dont make them anymore.. but you can find a few on ebay. I have one in use now, and one spare new in the box and another spare that is like new.. So Im good for a few years until someone makes a FF stick as good an Microsoft did.