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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 04:11 AM
I have been looking at a book of my brother's. It has a ton of planes(I would look up the name, or scan a pic but he wont let me.) Anyways, It has a picture of a Tb-3, but it has a gunner in the rear, with a kind of cut out rudder, to allow him in the space, rather than two gunners in the middle. Is this correct?

So... this is my signiture. Better not screw it up, people might think I'm stupid. Aww sonofawench!!!! I Screwed it up again!

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 04:11 AM
I have been looking at a book of my brother's. It has a ton of planes(I would look up the name, or scan a pic but he wont let me.) Anyways, It has a picture of a Tb-3, but it has a gunner in the rear, with a kind of cut out rudder, to allow him in the space, rather than two gunners in the middle. Is this correct?

So... this is my signiture. Better not screw it up, people might think I'm stupid. Aww sonofawench!!!! I Screwed it up again!

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 04:34 AM
I heard the TB~3 with tail gunner should come with the releace of The Patch or the Free Addon. This will also include the ability to carry two I~16 fighterbombers under the TB~3 wings.

The later Paid Addon will have other aircraft.

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 11:05 AM
There were a number of versions of TB-3 built from 1926 through to 1939. The version we have is the M17. Earlier versions had four wheeled undercarriage and less powerful engines. Indeed the 1934 version did have a tail turrent in place of underwing gunner positions, in addition to wheel brakes. Also read somewhere that the latter version had three fully enclosed manual turrents. Though I've never seen a picture of these versions. The parasite combination used in combat was called the "Zveno-6 SPB". It was a TB-3-4AM-34RN carrying two I-16 Type 5's loaded with bombs and droptanks. This was one of many Zveno combinations tried before the war, but the only one used in actual combat.

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 11:10 AM
Can someone explain which was the real impact of this old plane during the war? I mean, was it largely used? What was its survivability? I´m really impressed that such an antique was truely used in combat...

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 12:43 PM
Well, when it was first designed and used in the late 20's and early 30's, it was state of the art and a world beater. But like everything, it became obsolete over time and at this stage of the war, it the only thing that the Russians had in any decent numbers. About 800 of them were built before production stopped in 1939. The Russians had plenty of really old stuff on the airfields before the German attack. Had only started to gear production up for the newer planes in 1940, after they saw what happened in France. The Germans had a thing about attacking countries when they wern't ready. Most wars are fought with somebody using obsolete equipment. Need to remember that the Russians concentrated on single and twin engined tactical bombers and still hadn't decided on what engines they were going to go with on the Pe-8. As for the TB-3 was first used as a day, then as a night bomber. Also used to drop frieght and paratroops until 1944. Actually, saw plenty of action against the Germans, Finland, Poland and the Japanese. Now compare this to what four engined bombers were flying in other airforces at the start of WW2.