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SpitfireSeafire
02-04-2005, 12:53 PM
I have noticed that, even though you can select 5+ spitfires for flight, only one is listed in the view objects list. I was wondering if anyone had any information on the other spitfire variations.

FoolTrottel
02-04-2005, 01:53 PM
In game there's no additional info presented, the object viewer is lagging behind a bit...

Spitfires! (http://www.supermarine-spitfire.co.uk/spitfire.html)

Spitfire (http://www.spitfire.dk/)

Just google a bit....

horseback
02-04-2005, 06:10 PM
There are 4 major variants of Spitfire represented in Il-2FB/AEP/PF. Dumbed down a bit for brevity (as though that will protect me from the nit-pickers), they are:

(1) The Spitfire Mk Vb-This is the 1942-43 mark which was the most manufactured version of the war. CW refers to the clipped wing versions, which enjoyed a significantly improved roll rate and better dive speed at the cost of some maneuverability and high altitude performance. The Spit V variants in the game feature 2 x 20mm Hispano cannon and 4 x .303 Browings LMGs.

(2) The Spitfire Mk IX. This was the RAF's response to the FW-190's appearance on the Channel. Basically, they slapped the 2 stage supercharger equipped Merlin 61 onto a Spit Mk Vc. MK IXs flew with Merlin 61, 63, 66, and 70 series engines. It was a very successful conversion, the Mk IX becoming the second most produced Mark. Mk IXc models have a pair of belt-fed 20mm Hispano cannon (vice the magazine fed version in Vb marks) and 4 x .303 LMGs in the wings. The Mk IXe has 2 x 20mm cannon and 2 harder hitting .50 HMGs inboard of them on the wings, with a more powerful engine.

The Mk IX retained the maneuverability of the MK V while vastly improving upon its' performance.

(3) The Mk VIII was planned as the follow on to the Mk V, but the design and development required for it allowed the 'stopgap' Mk IX to precede it into production. A more refined design, purpose built for the same two stage supercharged Merlins used in the Mk IX, it was generally considered to be the 'sweetest' flying Spit of all. Outwardly, the main difference from the Mk IX is the retractable tailwheel. Armament was essentially the same as the Mk IX.

(4) Seafires. Wartime Seafire Marks were all variants upon the Spitfire Mk V, strengthened and given tailhooks and catapult attachments. The LF MK IIIc was a real hot rod at low levels, with its 4-bladed prop 12 exhaust stacks (a la the Mk IX/VIII)and Vokes Aero-Vee filter. Its Merlin 55M engine could generate 1585 HP at 2750 ft (approx 800m), and it could flat out haul @ss down low. Armament was similar to the c winged Mk IX and VIII.

cheers

horseback

Saburo_0
02-04-2005, 10:58 PM
All the Vbs have 6 seconds of cannon ammo, 21 secson the .303s
The Seafires, VIIIs and IXcs have 12 secs for cannon 21 sec for .303s
The IXe has 13 seconds plus 20 secs on the .50 brownings

The LF versions of the Vbs achieved their best performance way low. Not so for the IXs IIRC.

http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/spittest.html

Martyr_JG88
02-05-2005, 12:51 AM
Awesome.

JG53Frankyboy
02-05-2005, 02:03 AM
unfortunatly the Seafire L.III is a dog in PF 3.04 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
not the low level beast i expected.

SlickStick
02-05-2005, 10:25 AM
horseback wrote: "(1) The Spitfire Mk Vb-This is the 1942-43 mark which was the most manufactured version of the war."

Nitpick #1 - The Mk IX was the most produced version in WWII, unless you count all of the Mk Vs, not just the Mk Vbs.

Not to take away from your post's great content. I just wanted to beat IceFire to it. hehehe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Badsight.
02-05-2005, 03:10 PM
& the Mk9 got more Merlin-66 motors than any other 60 series