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03-23-2005, 05:32 AM
Annybody knows IF PF combined can run on a extream PC where it is used two screen cards.
System is baced on Athlon 64 prosessor and nVidia screen card put toghether in a SLI solution.
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1,8GHz socket 939
XFX GeForse 6600GT 128MB (Should it be 256?)
Samsung 17" LCD Syncmaster 710V TC099
Kingston ValueR PC3200 DDR-DIMM 512 MB (Or 1024MB ?)

Comments anybody.

03-23-2005, 07:08 AM
Umm, if it's SLI, then shouldn't it be 'two (2) XFX GeForce 6600GT 128MB'?

SLI is a technology to link to GPUs in tandem, after all, isn't it?

Also, I'm assuming you're upgrading to get that elusive playable water=3 (rather than the slide show we all get at the moment). If so, I've heard that the only people who've managed it were running two 6800 Ultra's in SLI tandem. You might not get away with it with the 6600GTs.

SLI is an early technology, also. People have it working with the current drivers, but only after some low level tweaking.

My advice is to wait until NVidia have it fully implemented and stable within drivers before forking out the substantial cash required to run an SLI PC.

I'm waiting to see how people go with the PCI-express enabled 6800 Ultras. It's possible that a single PCIe GPU, due to the higher bandwidth, could give us the performance needed for water=3 at half the price of an SLI solution...


03-23-2005, 08:05 AM
AMD 3800+
1 Gig DDR

1600 x 1200 2xAA 2xAF on perfect.
Unfortunately it's a lot harder to pick out targets on a 19in Monitor.

Don't waste your money on SLI. Get a solid PCI-e 939 pin ATI express board or nforce4 ultra board (or Intel equivalent) and a mid range card such as an X800xl or 6800GT. The big guns will be coming out soon from ATI (and Nvidia shortly after).

Why buy 2 crappy cards when you can get one good card that is guaranteed to work in all your games?

03-23-2005, 09:07 AM
I currently run an x800xl and it is a great card. It is on the order of 100% or more faster than say a 6600gt overclocked - x800xl at stock.

I tested SLI in PF awhile back with the asus board and two 6600gts. First - back then you had to edit some of the driver files to get the water to render correctly - it was split down the middle and all kinda wrong colors. Next I was getting 38fps with SLI where I was getting 45-48 with just one card. Things may have got sorted out since then, but a couple months ago sli was a bad idea with PF.

03-23-2005, 09:54 AM
The newest Nvidia drivers do include a profile for PF. Those who have run it say it works quite well indeed.

03-23-2005, 10:29 AM
Im waiting for the Physics chip to be incororated in the boards. Should be next year. Im one of those who is looking at system to give me the perfect water too. Im sure Nvidia is workin a single Multiple 2x GPU (6800 ultras) on a single card based on SLI for the PCIe. I want the Physics chip so im waiting. It will cost about $1000.00 my guess. ($999.97). Will need a Pent 3.4+ plus processor to go with it I'll bet. for what its worth BD.

03-23-2005, 11:47 AM
I'm wondering if the IL2 series is CPU or more GPU bound. I'm still leaning on the later... Who knows maybe the new FMs will make it CPU.


03-23-2005, 05:31 PM
When PCI graphics cards were the standard, 3Dfx Voodoo came out with the SLI setup. It was soon replaced by AGP. PCI Express is an improvement over AGP and will likely by the standard for the time being, but I don't know that SLI motherboards will be. Developers are already putting SLI GF6600's on a single board and a dual GPU 6800 with 512 MB RAM is being developed, but I think the dual 6800 uses a special slot that is not PCIe. I'm going to build an Athlon 939 PCIe computer, but I am staying away from the expense of SLI at this time.

03-23-2005, 05:58 PM
Correct - 3Dfx (bought out by nVidia) tried it with their Voodoo2's, and it worked very well (relatively). Whether or not SLI takes off, it's safe to say AGP will be on it's way out the door this year, making way for the new PCIe 16x slot. THAT is inevitable, and a sure thing; SLI is more of a gamble - RIGHT NOW. Give it a few more quarters - it'll present reasons why you should consider it's pros over it's cons.

03-23-2005, 07:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wintergoose:
Annybody knows IF PF combined can run on a extream PC where it is used two screen cards.
System is baced on Athlon 64 prosessor and nVidia screen card put toghether in a SLI solution.
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1,8GHz socket 939
XFX GeForse 6600GT 128MB (Should it be 256?)
Samsung 17" LCD Syncmaster 710V TC099
Kingston ValueR PC3200 DDR-DIMM 512 MB (Or 1024MB ?)

Comments anybody. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
1. If your going to run SLI then you will two of those 6600GTs
2. You must make sure the card supports SLI (Scalable Link Interface)
3. I do not blieve XFX makes a 6600GT at this time that supports SLI
4. Note: XFX do not get a ton of good reviews as well.
5. If two 6600GTs is what you want then I suggest these http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-122-220&depa=1
6. I notice you did not mention a motherboard. You will need one that features SLI also.
7. At this time there are no 6600GTs with 256MBRAM to found that Im aware of.
8. Yes PF will run on it and it will run wonderfull...be sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
9. I say scrap the LCD unless you going with a higher quality one which cost lots of money. Go with CRT whenever possible when it comes to gaming. You dont want a Uber PC and have your monitor be its bottlekneck.
10. RAM size is fine
11. I would opt for a AMD 64 3500 939 over the 3000.
12. But in the end...its your cash http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

03-23-2005, 09:26 PM
Though if you want perfect 3 water you will need two 6800 ultras..two 6600's only give you what a singe 6800GT ultra gives.

03-24-2005, 12:31 AM
Firingsquad is testing nForce4 SLI boards at :http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_nforce_4_sli/page8.asp


IL:2 is far less telling, since at both 1024x768 and 1600x1200 all five boards are fairly even. The game is notorious for demonstrating more variability with difference processors tested, so perhaps we€re being limited by the Athlon 64 FX-55 in each scenario here."

Better wait for the multicore processors.

03-24-2005, 02:33 AM
i get playable 55fps with water=3 on my 6800GT and the very right drivers (71.81WHQL) installed just right.

however, let me assure you, after the novelty wears off, you go back to water=1 because it looks almost just as good and gets you that extra 20fps that could make the difference in a hot situation.

03-24-2005, 07:20 AM
XFX makes a 6600GT with 256Mb

Link: http://www.xfxforce.com/product_view.php?sku=PVT43KUD

03-24-2005, 10:31 AM
I'm a big fan of Nvidia's chipsets I personally own an Nforce2 board and it's one of the best boards I've ever owned.

However it looks as though ATI is trying to get in the game with their chipsets. Right now they don't have nearly the feature set nor do they perform as well as Nvidia's Nforce3/4s however they are going to be attacking the SLI crowd. Now its just rumor but they seem to be working on an SLI solution that won't require the same type of card to be used nor does it require a special slot or bridge. It will all be done over the PCIe bus.

I'm not holding my breath but I'm holding out a little bit and see what matures. Plus I'm real curious how the new R520 will perform. I'll most likely make the much needed upgrade once the dust settles a little.

I'm a big believer in buying All high end at once and basically replacing everything every 2-3 years. Yeah you pay more but you get the life out of it with out constantly changing out parts. Either way I think they get you coming or going.

Maybe then I can play BoB or IL2 with perfect water settings.


03-24-2005, 02:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Iron_Hand1:
XFX makes a 6600GT with 256Mb

Link: http://www.xfxforce.com/product_view.php?sku=PVT43KUD <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure do. For AGP that is, which is not what you need for SLI. You need PCI Express 16x for that. And you need a card that supports SLI (not all do).