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Alloy007P
11-28-2007, 09:14 PM
I have just started flying the P-40m and I think it's awsome, but I have noticed that the engine is rather susceptible to dammage.Just 2 minutes ago I was flying and an artillery gun got one shot at me, my engine instantly exploded into flames started screaming like a banshee the rpm went through the roof( at this point which I knew I was toast) and then I exploded into a crispy fritter. Just me mabey or the way Im flying?

DrHerb
11-28-2007, 09:20 PM
yeah, the P-40 is one of those planes you either love or hate, I personally love it

Essentially you got a hit in the prop govenor which puts your prop in a flattened state so theres no load on the engine so it goes to Formula 1 rpm's as for the fire, black smoke indicates severe engine damage fire usually breaks out at that point

VW-IceFire
11-28-2007, 09:33 PM
If you have altitude put the plane into a nose dive to try and put out the fire if you can. Often you have seconds to try either bailing or diving to put the fire out. As for the engine...use manual prop control to get the engine under control. Its still toast but it'll give you a few extra moments.

Alloy007P
11-28-2007, 09:58 PM
Just recently(2 days ago) I started learning how to use CEM which BTW is way better/funner than haveing it turned off, so when you say use manual prop control you mean lower the propeler pitch to keep the engine rpm under control?

Also do you have to control your fuel mixture settings? It didn't work when I tried it so I figured that it's automatic. Then then I saw in the copkit on the left hand side has directions for mixture settings.

Korolov1986
11-28-2007, 10:25 PM
The P-40 has automatic fuel mixture control - in real life you can choose between auto lean, auto rich, and... whatever the middle setting is?

As for prop pitch, your problem above was more or less due to the prop RPM governor being shot to heck. Once that happens, anything you do with prop pitch control will have little/no effect.

bigbossmalone
11-29-2007, 01:02 AM
Although the P40 does suffer from a bit of a 'glasss jaw' in the game, it's also one of my all-time faves to fly in IL2.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/bigbossmalone/P404.jpg

Divine-Wind
11-29-2007, 10:13 AM
A bit of a glass jaw is an understatement.

Unfortunately. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

LEBillfish
11-29-2007, 10:42 AM
Enjoy.....transcribed & submitted by Mr. J. Long;

http://www.j-aircraft.org/smf/index.php?topic=4771.0

Y0RGO
11-29-2007, 10:50 AM
Yes, P/40 have plastiq moter.

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Stiletto-
11-29-2007, 04:52 PM
I like all P-40's but for some reason I like the M model alot.. Besides it's glass jaw, it feels like a very balanced plane that has enough passable tricks in it's book to fight more contemporary machines if in the control of a good pilot (<-- run-on sentence).

TheCrux
11-29-2007, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Stiletto-:
I like all P-40's but for some reason I like the M model alot.. Besides it's glass jaw, it feels like a very balanced plane that has enough passable tricks in it's book to fight more contemporary machines if in the control of a good pilot (<-- run-on sentence).

So here I was earlier today ( on the Inchiki Dameyo server ) Flew a short hop mission over Okinawa in a J2M3 to drop 2 60 Kg bombs and strafe some AA guns on an airfield just south of Naha. All went well except a got hit by AA from an adjacent airfield. Still making good speed, but engine sounding bad ( no smoke though ) I'd figure I'd split and head at wavetop height just far enough from the coast to avoid AA to a closer airfield to home. Almost there and I spot a dot above me; he's not high, but well above my wavetop height: P40M returning home ( to the field I just bombed ) from a strafing mission. Right now I'm moving faster than his level top speed, but if I climb I lose any speed advantage, and hard to get back with a worsening engine. I'm right over my relief airfield now, but too low to maneuver properly. I wanted to zig-zag over it in hopes the AA would hit the P40 before my engine quit: HA! He took out the AA guns earlier. The P40 latched onto me like a pit bull and I couldn't shake him enough to bring guns on him....superior manueverability of the Jack notwithstanding. He must've been outta ammo and was pursuing me for fun. Considered submitting by turning my nav lights on and going in for a landing: Instead I went for broke for a fight to the death...I went for broke alright: Crashed right into the ground trying to scissors the P40. Good overall strategy on his part. I was impressed with that plane ( and pilot ) as it sure had me sweating.

That wasn't you was it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

msalama
11-29-2007, 11:13 PM
...whatever the middle setting is?

The settings are emergency / full rich - auto rich - auto lean - cutoff IIRC.

msalama
11-29-2007, 11:16 PM
...and YES, this is a delightful bird IMO too, albeit perhaps a bit demanding in some situations http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

OMK_Hand
11-30-2007, 02:48 AM
LEBillfish, thanks for the heads-up.

Xiolablu3
11-30-2007, 10:46 AM
All in line engines are too susceptable to fire in the game IMO.

The was a CHANCE that one bullet could knock out the cooling on a inline engine and put it out of action.

However in IL2 its around 33% chance that one single 7.62mm bullet will knock out your engine. 3 hit from a rear gunner to the engine and for sure and you are going down.

This is in stark contrast to the 'chance' it could go down, in IL2 its almost DEFINITE you are going down.

I would like to see engine durability from rear gunner hits beefed up a bit. Surely a hunk of almost solid metal like the Bf109/Spit/P40 eninge casing could stand a few rifle calibre hits without being knocked out??

WOLFMondo
11-30-2007, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:

I would like to see engine durability from rear gunner hits beefed up a bit. Surely a hunk of almost solid metal like the Bf109/Spit/P40 eninge casing could stand a few rifle calibre hits without being knocked out??

Its all the sensitive bits stuck onto the solid block. A 7.62 bullet in a valve or in the CPS unit could really ruin someones day. I do agree though, but I think its down to the hit box style DM Il2 has.

Divine-Wind
11-30-2007, 11:28 AM
Except for the DM troubles, the -40M is a great plane. Stable, fairly fast, and good armament. Just wish you could survive getting plinked by a .22. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Friendly_flyer
11-30-2007, 12:52 PM
What an insanely cool screenshot, Bigbossmalone!