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Brnboy313
07-21-2007, 04:46 PM
i just want 2 kno if he was muslim or christian im not racist i just wish to kno

webswinger93
07-21-2007, 04:58 PM
Muslim... wild guess :P... but i think that it's still unrevealed... anybody who knows?

Anubis14_360
07-21-2007, 05:05 PM
he does have one.

webswinger93
07-21-2007, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Anubis14_360:
he does have one.

That explains alot

srbaggieri
07-21-2007, 05:11 PM
i think J.R said in an interwiew that he had a muslim father and a christian mother... so he isn't born into any specific religion. I at least think she said that Altair was like a third part, neither christian nor muslim! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

moqqy
07-21-2007, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Brnboy313:
i just want 2 kno if he was muslim or christian im not racist i just wish to kno

hes nizari ismaili.. and why did you say youre not racist when asking what religion he is

deskpe
07-21-2007, 06:00 PM
does he have one???

i thought they didnt wanna talke any sides of anything in this game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

MTXteerling
07-21-2007, 07:02 PM
The original hashasin were muslim. They didn't take sides, but they believed that their take on the muslim-religion told them to stop the war. They killed people on both sides in order to gain peace. That was their goal and they believed that their hashasins (assassins) would gain entry to paradise if they killed the appropriate people.
They're a separate subreligion just like protestantism.

I think...

StealthShottz
07-21-2007, 08:01 PM
Does it really matter? Come on now...

Boromir323
07-21-2007, 08:35 PM
He doesnt have a religion. In Jades words, hes more of a "spiritual" character.

Atheist2012
07-21-2007, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Boromir323:
He doesnt have a religion. In Jades words, hes more of a "spiritual" character.
In one of the videos--the one that shows Altair talking to the slaver after killing him--he says something that indicates he believes in God, with the slaver responding with,"...there is no God..." I'm with the slaver. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

iPlunder
07-21-2007, 11:58 PM
i hate relgion. Thw orld would be so much better without it. if there was no religion there would be hardly any war.

Boromir323
07-22-2007, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by iPlunder:
i hate relgion. Thw orld would be so much better without it. if there was no religion there would be hardly any war.

I think people with different religions should start seeing the similarities. If you think about it, at the core just about all religions are the same. Then we wouldn't need to kill people for not believe what we believe because we all believe the same thing, essentially http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif . But I bet we could still have wars over oil http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

GameGuy360
07-22-2007, 12:34 AM
If i can remeber correctly, Jade Raymond said in an interview that he is more of spiritual person.

SCARFACE_47
07-22-2007, 01:09 AM
i think dogma has all the answers

Doogsy1
07-22-2007, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Atheist2012:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Boromir323:
He doesnt have a religion. In Jades words, hes more of a "spiritual" character.
In one of the videos--the one that shows Altair talking to the slaver after killing him--he says something that indicates he believes in God, with the slaver responding with,"...there is no God..." I'm with the slaver. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He said to the guy something about 'your god' (as in his god) implying that Altair doesn't necessarily believe in a god, but that he thought that guy might.

noobfun
07-22-2007, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by iPlunder:
i hate relgion. Thw orld would be so much better without it. if there was no religion there would be hardly any war.

he is an ishma'ili nizari as moqqy said

which in the game means hes spiritual not religeous -_- (he's some kind of quasi hippie)

yes with out religeon the old world wouldnt have war .... *cough* they would just invent another excuse for attacking

how many excuses did we have for the iraq war

wmd's (not found) + bring peace to the middle east (that worked well)

then changes to
bring freedom to iraqi's (lol)

and now its secure the country so it can supply its oil to the world and grow prosperous while we wait for its army and police to beable to take over from us

religeon was a way to gain mass backing for anything, now they just have better excuses

ScytheOfGrim
07-22-2007, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by iPlunder:
i hate relgion. Thw orld would be so much better without it. if there was no religion there would be hardly any war.

no offense brother...but to a muslim, that's sort of an insult...i know you didnt mean it though...the reason for that us cuz islam is not just a religion, it's a way of life, a way to do anything at any given moment.


(he's some kind of quasi hippie)

hehehe...i found that funny http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


yes with out religeon the old world wouldnt have war .... *cough* they would just invent another excuse for attacking

true, true...and that's cuz humans are greedy.
no matter what we try, it'll always turn on us...this world hates us... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif


how many excuses did we have for the iraq war

i lost count...


wmd's (not found) + bring peace to the middle east (that worked well)

they havent found the WMD YET http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif i'm just really good at hiding stuff...

i told them to put me on the throne and that i promised that my sadistic nature wouldnt empower me...they didnt take that one too well... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


then changes to
bring freedom to iraqi's (lol)

put me on the throo-oone, put me on the throo-oone...
freedom...one word with many meanings and interpretations...


and now its secure the country so it can supply its oil to the world and grow prosperous while we wait for its army and police to beable to take over from us

like that'll ever happen... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

i said it once, and i'll say it again, no peace can be brought to iraq without a fierce leader at its head.
and this has been proven in the anals of history...even khalifa omar commented on it...


religeon was a way to gain mass backing for anything, now they just have better excuses

hmm...i prefer to call them..."unexplainably stupid reasons"...

noobfun
07-22-2007, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">wmd's (not found) + bring peace to the middle east (that worked well)

they havent found the WMD YET http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif i'm just really good at hiding stuff... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i thought bush had recieved new intel on somthing they didnt think iraq had

wmdd - weapons of mass destruction destroyers

so all the wmds were destroyed before we got there but they have been unable to find traces of wmdd's so its thought he may have had wmddd's which he used on the wmdd's, we are currently looking for traces of this



hmm...i prefer to call them..."unexplainably stupid reasons"... rofl


:
and now its secure the country so it can supply its oil to the world and grow prosperous while we wait for its army and police to beable to take over from us


like that'll ever happen...

i said it once, and i'll say it again, no peace can be brought to iraq without a fierce leader at its head.
and this has been proven in the anals of history...even khalifa omar commented on it...

yepp same with afghanistan, the tribal nature of the locals means you have to put them down and keep them down else they will get back up kick your *** then kick each others ***

ScytheOfGrim
07-22-2007, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by noobfun:

i thought bush had recieved new intel on somthing they didnt think iraq had

wmdd - weapons of mass destruction destroyers

so all the wmds were destroyed before we got there but they have been unable to find traces of wmdd's so its thought he may have had wmddd's which he used on the wmdd's, we are currently looking for traces of this

lol!!!
then maybe they had WMtripleD
you know, weapons of mass destruction destroyers decimators.
they decimate the destroyes, thus leaving the destroyers untraceable. now shhhh!!!...the CIA might be keeping tabs on this site... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif too much info has been leaked...


yepp same with afghanistan, the tribal nature of the locals means you have to put them down and keep them down else they will get back up kick your *** then kick each others ***

hahaha!!! i found that funny too!!!

wait...are you calling us nomads???
actually...we are...dang...headshot...

we still have better mobile phones than you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

and the prices are cheaper!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

game over!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Clonage2006
07-22-2007, 04:53 AM
I'd have thought a simple 'lol' would have sufficed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ScytheOfGrim
07-22-2007, 04:54 AM
essays are way more fun!!

you should try it one day!!!

welcome back BTW, havent seen oyu around in a while...

Clonage2006
07-22-2007, 05:20 AM
Missed me ? Wow, the things a few days can do to a man-child-scythe thing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ScytheOfGrim
07-22-2007, 05:24 AM
man-child-scythe thing...

i have seemed to have lost my social status... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

where is the fear that i once inflicted into the hearts of mere mortals??

where is the death and carnage that i once brewed with my scythe??

where is the extensive use of this smiley http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif when people want to ask me for forgiveness??

and i wonder why i lost my social status... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif i lost my ability to speak... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Clonage2006
07-22-2007, 05:26 AM
Forgive me! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

(or I'll stab you in the eyes! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif)

ScytheOfGrim
07-22-2007, 05:29 AM
there we go!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

i have seemed to redeem myself...

my psychiatrist was riight...being outspoken is a good thing!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NO FORGIVENESS FOR YOU!!!(run now quickly!! this is just for show!!!) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Clonage2006
07-22-2007, 05:32 AM
Clonage Wipes his blade and stabs scythe's eyes.

ScytheOfGrim
07-22-2007, 05:34 AM
umm...ok.

i think we both oughta stop spamming now...i already got warned...

but just to let you know, im immortal and immune http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

i dont have eyes!!!!!!!!!!

Phrygian15
07-22-2007, 06:32 PM
The only thing that I would like to know if the game has some kind of insult (or indiderct insult) to any religion... because I personally wouldn't like that to happen....

moqqy
07-22-2007, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Phrygian15:
The only thing that I would like to know if the game has some kind of insult (or indiderct insult) to any religion... because I personally wouldn't like that to happen....

it isnt going to insult any religions.
and why wouldnt you like that to happen? i find it odd that people cant take insults to their religion etc. in video games..even if the video game is from someones angle that is anti-*insert religion here*. it needs to be all censored and stuff and cant be told truthfully because some people will be insulted.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Phrygian15
07-22-2007, 06:46 PM
well because you live by that and it isn't fun when people insult your believings, and I'm a practicing catholic and I just don't like when people insult your way of living, I don't do it and i don't like when others do it.
Though I just wanted to know, and If some one will create a game to insult religions (watever it is) I just don't buy that game.

Moseman894
07-23-2007, 04:04 PM
I've actually read that his Mother is/was Christian and his father is/was Muslim. How'ed that happen?

moqqy
07-23-2007, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Moseman894:
I've actually read that his Mother is/was Christian and his father is/was Muslim. How'ed that happen?

well thats not maybe appropriate for an E-rated forum http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Ammario
07-23-2007, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Moseman894:
I've actually read that his Mother is/was Christian and his father is/was Muslim. How'ed that happen?

I guess your parents never read you the story of the bird and the bees.

Altair_92
07-23-2007, 05:39 PM
I hate it when people make a big deal about their religeon. They can't have their own religeon insulted, but they can say that so and so's religeon is wrong.

Atheist all the way! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



PS: I've seen several other people talking about his parents. Wheres the link to that interview/info? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

assassins180
07-23-2007, 06:17 PM
i think j.r did say that he had a christan mother an d a muslim farther and that he was bound by either religion an was more of a spiritual beliver http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and sorry for the poor spelling lol

Altair_92
07-23-2007, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by assassins180:
i think j.r did say that he had a christan mother an d a muslim farther and that he was bound by either religion an was more of a spiritual beliver http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif and sorry for the poor spelling lol

Where is that interview at. I've seen a lot of people talking about his parents. Doees anyone have the link? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Moseman894
07-23-2007, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Moseman894:
I've actually read that his Mother is/was Christian and his father is/was Muslim. How'ed that happen?

What I meant when I said "How'ed that happen?"
requires just a bit of history. Back during the Crusades it was the Christian's and the Muslims who were fighting it out. It just seemed unusual to me that two people who are religious enemies would get together and have a kid.
Thats what I meant.

martingc
07-23-2007, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
no offense brother...but to a muslim, that's sort of an insult...i know you didnt mean it though...the reason for that us cuz islam is not just a religion, it's a way of life, a way to do anything at any given moment.


so is it to a member of church of satan, would you accept it for what it is? as you demanded by that comment for us to accept yours...

just for the record;
i accept and respect muslim's and christians alike, even though they rarly accept nor give me respect in return

Boromir323
07-23-2007, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Moseman894:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Moseman894:
I've actually read that his Mother is/was Christian and his father is/was Muslim. How'ed that happen?

What I meant when I said "How'ed that happen?"
requires just a bit of history. Back during the Crusades it was the Christian's and the Muslims who were fighting it out. It just seemed unusual to me that two people who are religious enemies would get together and have a kid.
Thats what I meant. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe his mother was a captured slave or something, and his father thought she was hot so he "bought" her...and then they were both killed in an ambush after Altair was born...lol thats my theory.

Ammario
07-23-2007, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by martingc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
no offense brother...but to a muslim, that's sort of an insult...i know you didnt mean it though...the reason for that us cuz islam is not just a religion, it's a way of life, a way to do anything at any given moment.


so is it to a member of church of satan, would you accept it for what it is? as you demanded by that comment for us to accept yours...

just for the record;
i accept and respect muslim's and christians alike, even though they rarly accept nor give me respect in return </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well then those muslims/christians aren't true to their beleifs...a.k.a. hypocrites

Georg_Maximus
07-24-2007, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by Moseman894:
What I meant when I said "How'ed that happen?"
requires just a bit of history. Back during the Crusades it was the Christian's and the Muslims who were fighting it out.

Things are never as clear-cut as some will have us believe. Those regions around the East-Mediterranian basin have for thousands of years been home to multi-religuos societies in which christians, muslims, jews and others have formed families and bonds to eachother. The hostilities during the crusades was primarily between the population that already lived there and the European invaders, not christians and muslims as such, as many christians lived in the Middle East and was equally victimized by the invasion as their muslim compatriots. So a person with one parent Christian and the other a Muslim would not at all have been that uncommon.

ScytheOfGrim
07-24-2007, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Ammario:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by martingc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
no offense brother...but to a muslim, that's sort of an insult...i know you didnt mean it though...the reason for that us cuz islam is not just a religion, it's a way of life, a way to do anything at any given moment.


so is it to a member of church of satan, would you accept it for what it is? as you demanded by that comment for us to accept yours...

just for the record;
i accept and respect muslim's and christians alike, even though they rarly accept nor give me respect in return </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well then those muslims/christians aren't true to their beleifs...a.k.a. hypocrites </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks ammario, saved me the trouble cuz i was sleeping!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW, i never demanded anything, i only asked for it...it wont change my life if you dont give me that respect, in fact, im fine with it. i just thought that it might be worth pointing it out. watch what you're saying sometimes, it's because of careless comments that hatred starts. and i personally have NEVER been disrespectful towards ANY other person from a different religion.

yes i would accept it for what it is. i wouldnt try to change someone's beliefs by force!! what's the point of a religion then?? BTW, i thought it might be good to point out that islam DEMANDS ALL muslims to treat ALL religions with respect, whether the muslim approves of it or not, it doesnt make a difference. whoever doesnt respect another religion, cant call him/herself a muslim.

FableB
07-24-2007, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by iPlunder:
i hate relgion. Thw orld would be so much better without it. if there was no religion there would be hardly any war.

You really can't blame religion, but rather blame the human race.

ScytheOfGrim
07-24-2007, 08:27 AM
yup..true, true...it's our belief that we hate religion that makes us fight...so it;s us...not our religions...


stupid mortals... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

moqqy
07-24-2007, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by FableB:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by iPlunder:
i hate relgion. Thw orld would be so much better without it. if there was no religion there would be hardly any war.

You really can't blame religion, but rather blame the human race. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, religion started alot of bad things, but people who say that, forgot that religion done alot of good things too

Phrygian15
07-24-2007, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FableB:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by iPlunder:
i hate relgion. Thw orld would be so much better without it. if there was no religion there would be hardly any war.

You really can't blame religion, but rather blame the human race. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, religion started alot of bad things, but people who say that, forgot that religion done alot of good things too </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point, the religions don't start wars, human action does, and religions aren't meant for hatred, but for peace.

Clonage2006
07-24-2007, 11:03 AM
Agreed, stupidity and greed are not limitations of the followers of a religion.

Edo_555
07-29-2007, 11:37 AM
There are wery interesting article about Islam, Cristianity an Judaism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions
They have much in comon. Even bad sidehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SmokehtheFirst
07-29-2007, 11:49 AM
Religion sucks. I'm not religious, never have been, never will be.

It's been said that Altair, if anything, is spiritual, rather than religious.

dragfindel
07-29-2007, 12:32 PM
this has been awnserd a many times in the dev diaries.
off topic awnser is given lock topic

eddeadjones89
07-30-2007, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by srbaggieri:
i think J.R said in an interwiew that he had a muslim father and a christian mother... so he isn't born into any specific religion. I at least think she said that Altair was like a third part, neither christian nor muslim! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Yes that was done on purpose for the game to be politically neutral.

Howeverm, in reality Hashashin were a radical branch of Islam (Muslim), which most of the Muslims didn't like. They created their own little cult, but it is fundamentally Muslim.