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Urufu_Shinjiro
11-06-2009, 08:22 AM
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/s...?p=117747#post117747 (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=117747#post117747)

Discuss http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

AndyJWest
11-06-2009, 08:44 AM
Looking good. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

The Spit is clearly factory-fresh: I'd like to see it when it has seen a bit of wear:http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/SpitfirePilot01.jpg
Notice the shadow from the canopy frame falling across the pilot.

stalkervision
11-06-2009, 08:47 AM
The cockpit plexiglass is also way to clear. british fighters of that era were known for pretty bad plexglass. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Low_Flyer_MkIX
11-06-2009, 09:02 AM
100 octane fuel marker too, somebody will be on the phone to Moscow as we speak. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

stalkervision
11-06-2009, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkIX:
100 octane fuel marker too, somebody will be on the phone to Moscow as we speak. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


oleg should always talk to us guys before he does such things. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

BillSwagger
11-06-2009, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:

Notice the shadow from the canopy frame falling across the pilot.

thats the one thing i've noticed more about these screens. The amount of lighting detail and shadowing seems to emulate actual sunlight better.
The ships look great, and part of me wonders if they are also going to include the light that reflects off the ocean onto the hull of the ship.
I also could see the ship's hull under the water, but im not sure if that's new to SOW, or that my settings are so low that i'm not able to see a similar effect in Il2.



Bill

Choctaw111
11-06-2009, 09:15 AM
Oh my God! This is so reminiscent of the good ol' days here. This just feels so right.
Wow, what great work! I can't wait to see it in action.

RSS-Martin
11-06-2009, 10:02 AM
Great the first IJA bomber! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/BR20_03.jpg

Metatron_123
11-06-2009, 10:47 AM
Very nice... Did you see those boats? Amazing. Imagine what battleships will look like.

Billy_DeLyon
11-06-2009, 11:01 AM
The water looks fantastic, esp. in some of the boat shots. Photo-real.

AndyJWest
11-06-2009, 11:41 AM
RSS-Martin writes:

Great the first IJA bomber!

I think it's Italian.

Edit ---------

Fiat BR.20

stalkervision
11-06-2009, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
Great the first IJA bomber! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/BR20_03.jpg

Is this a "salley" ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Uufflakke
11-06-2009, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
RSS-Martin writes:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Great the first IJA bomber!

I think it's Italian.

Edit ---------

Fiat BR.20 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is, but the Br.20 was used as a long-range bomber by Japan in the 30's 'cause the IJA didn't have a useful bomber for this purpose.

Wildnoob
11-06-2009, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AndyJWest:
RSS-Martin writes:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Great the first IJA bomber!

I think it's Italian.

Edit ---------

Fiat BR.20 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is, but the Br.20 was used as a long-range bomber by Japan in the 30's 'cause the IJA didn't have a useful bomber for this purpose. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, the Sally was the first modern domestic designed bomber. While the BR-20 was the first modern bomber IJA used.

AndyJWest
11-06-2009, 12:49 PM
I stand corrected.

I'm assuming the IJA will play little part in the Battle of Britain though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
11-06-2009, 01:43 PM
Yeah, the water transparency is new. Remember, Oleg has plans to eventually cover ground and sea vehicle combat, so transparent water is essential to submarine activity.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-06-2009, 01:49 PM
Did somebody mention ground http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

RSS-Martin
11-06-2009, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
I stand corrected.

I'm assuming the IJA will play little part in the Battle of Britain though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Well it might be hard to imagine, but there are people who are looking a bit further ahead than that what is right in front of ones nose (BoB)
Which will only be taken along, but not the main focus on this sim.

Here is your Italian plane:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Flugzeuge/br20.jpg
By the way the BR. 20 design being finalised in 1935 and the first prototype (serial number M.M.274) flown at Turin on 10 February 1936

The G3M1 Nell had its first flight in July 1935
so the bit with the first modern bomber, I would think over. Of course the G3M1 is navy IJN not IJA.
The first Ki 21 Sally prototype flew on 18 December 1936. So the Nell is in any case earlier.

knightflyte
11-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
The cockpit plexiglass is also way to clear. british fighters of that era were known for pretty bad plexglass. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


LOL

Uufflakke
11-06-2009, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by stalkervision:
The cockpit plexiglass is also way to clear. british fighters of that era were known for pretty bad plexglass. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

But the British had floating antennes... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/SpitfirePilot01.jpg

Wildnoob
11-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
By the way the BR. 20 design being finalised in 1935 and the first prototype (serial number M.M.274) flown at Turin on 10 February 1936

The G3M1 Nell had its first flight in July 1935
so the bit with the first modern bomber, I would think over. Of course the G3M1 is navy IJN not IJA.

But we not talking about IJA bombers?

I was specifically referring to them, like apparentely you as well.

Should had written "the first army modern domestic bomber" to not cause any confusion, though.

VMF-214_HaVoK
11-06-2009, 04:43 PM
Some of the comments posted is a good example why Oleg is so reluctant to post screens of unfinished objects. Oleg knows they are not 100% and he has informed us many of times. But, a few just can not help themselves. We all know...there is no need to prove your intelligence on historical accuracy. It does not come across as cute or witty. Closer to obnoxious.

S!

ARCHIE_CALVERT
11-06-2009, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
Some of the comments posted is a good example why Oleg is so reluctant to post screens of unfinished objects. Oleg knows they are not 100% and he has informed us many of times. But, a few just can not help themselves. We all know...there is no need to prove your intelligence on historical accuracy. It does not come across as cute or witty. Closer to obnoxious.

S!

Don't agree, I would hope that he does read these comments, because it might turn up something that hasn't been noticed yet by Olegs team...

I know it helps to show WIP shots to others not involved with it, take Magpies Whirly, we've made sure that it's been given an airing after every major update and welcome constructive criticism to ensure we get it right before it's finally released...

Just have to think of criticism in a positive light... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Muddy17
11-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Uh Oh,, well they got it all wrong ,,,man that is really it this time!!! IM NOT BUYING THIS GAME if they dont get the rivet count right around the gas cap!!!

FlatSpinMan
11-06-2009, 10:29 PM
I love the sunlight, especially on those boats.
Got to say though, please turn on anti-aliasing for the screenshots. I read somewhere that whatever system they're running in doesn't allow it but come on! These amazing images, particularly for a FLIGHT SIMULATOR no less, aren't shown of to their full effect, I think.
Anyway, enjoying the updates.

stalkervision
11-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
Some of the comments posted is a good example why Oleg is so reluctant to post screens of unfinished objects. Oleg knows they are not 100% and he has informed us many of times. But, a few just can not help themselves. We all know...there is no need to prove your intelligence on historical accuracy. It does not come across as cute or witty. Closer to obnoxious.

S!


actually havok the obnoxious one here is you.

We were just having some harmless fun. Lighten up will you. I will point this one thing out thou for you since you don't seem to be aware of it.

ever heard of the word "game patches" IMO, if oleg who we all dearly respect and appreciate I am sure and other sim developers got their respective target audience buyers more involved in the process of game development by posting some development screenies and asking for opinions of what is right and wrong with the aircraft and equiptment shown and the scenery developed this would go along way to lessen the need for so many game patches we all have to wait eons to get after we purchase the game. IMO there are some of the smartest aircraft and ww 2 historians right here on these boards who's excellent knowledge is just being wasted quite often. I am often quite amazed at the collective aircraft knowledge shown here.

It would also lessen the need for so many redos. Isn't this what we all want after all?

Of course this is only my opinion.

RSS-Martin
11-07-2009, 01:12 AM
+10 Stalkervision!

That guy rather has hundreds of posts of "Droll" "fantastic" "OMG I wet myself" etc. than that people talk about the aircraft.

Oh well that kind you have everywhere. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

ploughman
11-07-2009, 03:05 AM
Nice, like the water especially. The top down shot of the fishing boat shows another order of magnitude of detail in the water than I've seen elsewhere.

Kind of Oleg to put a pie-munching Spitpilot in the cockpit to make it look cramped, always thinking of those sensitive Lufty's. http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

Three updates in three weeks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

doraemil
11-07-2009, 03:42 AM
Got to appreciate Oleg and his teams effort to keep posting pics.


The water and boats / ships are well done. Nice reflections and detail.

I learned something new about the BR 20. And the 100 octane call to Moscow I was laughing.

The guys over in 1C saw the spit pilot pictures and then commented on his jacket and said the jacket was inaccurate.

Since game design is alot of compromise, I would rather want accuracy to be directed towards the weapons systems, flight models, damage models . . .


But this is opening the dialogue. I mean Oleg n Co are human and they will make mistakes.

And its funny what people do sometimes with them. Like how someone did the jurassic park photoshop in the original 10-23 sets.

This is fun, a new game is coming out and we watching history in the making.

Choctaw111
11-07-2009, 09:20 AM
Some of the shots the the previous update were amazing. The way that the cloud looks with the sun shining through them brought a big smile to my face, as well as many other things, but the clouds in the one screenie were just gorgeous.

major_setback
11-07-2009, 09:42 AM
I like what Foo'bar did with the Stuka images. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/att...=100727&d=1257256186 (http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100727&d=1257256186)

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100727&d=1257256186

major_setback
11-07-2009, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkIX:
100 octane fuel marker too, somebody will be on the phone to Moscow as we speak. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

I know nothing about the type of fuel used, but found an interesting discussion about use of 100 octane fuel in BoB:

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/for...uring-bob-16305.html (http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/technical/use-100-octane-fuel-raf-during-bob-16305.html)

Low_Flyer_MkIX
11-08-2009, 02:40 AM
Exactly my point Major - despite some interesting input, the usual suspects with their usual input - makes one wonder if they save it all to cut and paste whenever the opportunity arises. Must be more to life than attempting to hobble one side or another in a computer game for your own advantage. Look at my plane - it's uber!

Xiolablu3
11-08-2009, 03:22 AM
You only have to ask any RAF pilot who was in the BOB and they will tell you that they used 100 octane throught he battle.

Others say how they were very greatful for stocks of 100 octane fuel sent from the USA, which they used through the BOB.

Just ask the pilots, they know what fuel they used. No need for all this back and forth arguing and trying to guess what context the letters are used in.