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mariuszj1939
03-09-2006, 02:36 AM
When and where is earliest possibility to change boat to type IXC from VIIB ?
Is it worth to wait for IXC instead of IXB
(longest range)?

AO1_AW_SW_USN
03-09-2006, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by mariuszj1939:
When and where is earliest possibility to change boat to type IXC from VIIB ?
Is it worth to wait for IXC instead of IXB
(longest range)?


Date of availability: January or February 1941 in the 2nd Flotilla.


Is it worth the wait?

First off, read my signature at the bottom.

Secondly, it depends. The IXC (which is my personal favorite) and the IXB are very similar in every aspect except range. The IXC has the edge over the IXB, but only by a little.

Personally (not trying to be biased), wait until the IXC is available. It's well worth the wait.

mariuszj1939
03-09-2006, 04:37 AM
Thanks,
I thought the same to wait until IXC is offered.

Sadzior_PL
03-09-2006, 07:57 AM
well, it depends what do u expect from the game. If you want long patrols, eg. to africa, get the IX now!. But if you want short patrols, and more exciting game due to shortyer patrols, obtain your VIIB/C now! CAn someone explain what do you mean when you say the VIIB has got the U-FLAK configuration? i mean what flak gunns you can mount on it?

Sergeant_Uhanov
03-09-2006, 09:20 AM
The U-FLAK project really took place in Battle for the Atlantic. Several Uboats were given extra AA weaponry, they had to fight allied aorpower. In SH III the type 3 conning tower (see http://www.communitymanuals.com/shiii/index.php?title=Career_Timeline for exact date of appearence) is this U Boat configuration - 2 light flak and 1 heavy

lecek
03-09-2006, 10:50 AM
Just a correction.

If you don't have any mods, you can get the IXB in October 1940. It will cost 7500 renown.

Regarding waiting the extra year. If your difficulty setting is at least 66% you should be able to come up with enough renown to go from b-c-c/40 as they come out. You will not be able to go for an XXI though. If you want an XXI I would suggest sticking with a VII, they rack up renown faster then IX boats because of the shorter patrols.

U-flack is not 2 lights and one heavy, that is a normal VIIC boat configuration. U-flack is 3 heavy.

Regarding VIIB vs VIIC. Many ppl stick with the B version but I prefer the C. It is true the B goes 5% faster underewater and can go 5% farther underwater, but the C dives 10% faster and goes 10% deeper. (Actual game performance, not manual specs) The extra speed isn't that much and when is the last time you went for range underwater. Keep in mind battery TIME underwater is the same, just the range is a bit less.

CRSutton
03-10-2006, 09:27 AM
Donitz disliked the type IX boat and lobbied heavily for construction of more VIIs in favor of the IXs both before and during the war. To his regret, he was over ruled

He felt (rightly so) that the IX type boat was just too big and clumsy for operations against convoys and only very reluctantly ordered IX boats to attack protected convoys.

Due to its range and the lack of escorts the IX was useful in the early attacks against North America and the Carribean as well as attacks off of the cost of Africa but eventally the Allies were able to provide sufficient escorts to make life very dangerous for them.

By late 1943 with much more sophisticated radar and sonar coming on line-surviving in a type IX got very hard. They are fun early in the war but I have yet to take one into 1944 where I can just imagine what will happen.

AO1_AW_SW_USN
03-10-2006, 05:22 PM
I use the IX Class boats exclusively. Out of 15 careers, I've lost all hands twice. That's not too bad of a ratio if you ask me.

The way you conduct warfare in this game with a IX Class is far different than how you would conduct war in a VII Class. With a VIII Class, you can afford to take chances because of your maneuverability. You don't have that option with an IX Class.

"Runnin -n- Gunnin" should be the farthest thing from your mind as you leave Lorient. To be a successful IX Skipper stealth, surprise and most importantly caution must be exercised at all times.

See an Escort, or an Aircraft? Dive you fool!