PDA

View Full Version : I might have talked to a P-51 Veteran today..



Stiletto-
10-23-2007, 05:01 PM
But to be honest I don't really know if I did.

Today an old man came into my place of business, who was a real talker.. I heard him do voice like Popeye the sailor man (it wasn't completley accurate I think mostly do to the age of his voice he said he was 87). He saw me smile at him so he came over and told me he was the 3rd guy to do the voice of Popeye in the 50's. He then said he lived in hollywood at the time and worked for Disney Studios and saw them film 1000 Leagues Under the Sea, etc...

He then starts spouting off saying "1000 of us die a day". I say to him, oh are you a World War II Veteran? he says "yes I sure am!" I ask him what he did in the war, and he told me he was a P-51 pilot. and I ask him some questions about what theatre he served in etc, and he started talking about how 109's and 190's were harder but the Dorniers HE-111's and Stukas weren't too hard. He said he got 22 kills, and I asked him something about maneuvers and he was talking about how someone wanted him to do an Immelman in a Piper Cub before the war, and he said something to the effect that it was too underpowered..

Anyways he said his name was Warren (firt or last I don't know) and that he had 22 kills and was a P-51 Pilot. I looked him up and I cant find anyone with the name Warren, nor can I find anything about him doing the voices for Popeye. I am now just thinking he is an old man telling stories... We've all seen senior citizens who enjoy telling stories and getting attention and there is nothing wrong with that, but this is a little dissapointing if not true.

berg417448
10-23-2007, 05:13 PM
If you want to try to look a US Air Force pilot this is a good source:

http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/avc/avc.asp

There are several Warrens (Last name)in there but I found none with more than 2 kills credited.

Lurch1962
10-23-2007, 05:19 PM
A couple of years ago here in Ottawa, I was sitting in a restaurant and watched a car pull up in the parking lot which bore plates which read "NAP51D". Soon after he got seated, I went over to his table and introduced myself, mentioned seeing his car's tag, and asked if he flew the '51. Yes, says he, around the time of the Korean war, but not in combat apparently. Not wanting to pry, or come across as overly nosy, I kept it at that and thanked him for his military service, shook his hand and left.

LEXX_Luthor
10-23-2007, 05:50 PM
Reminds me of an encounter told about probable 163 pilot.

Me 163 pilots: Anonymous pilot account ~> http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/pilots14.htm (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Erobdebie/me163/pilots14.htm)


Homepage, interesting 163 site ~ http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163.htm (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Erobdebie/me163.htm)

Trigger_88
10-23-2007, 05:57 PM
I was recently on the amtrak and talked to a vietnam F4 pilot. I dont remember his name, unit, or anything like that. I do remember he said he got three kills, two mig-17s with aim-9 sidewinders and 1 mig-21 with the cannon. I think he said he flew between 69-72 or something like that. Is there a list of pilots that had gun kills against the mig-21? Can I find him by his kills?

berg417448
10-23-2007, 06:03 PM
The link I posted earlier yielded this list of 20mm gun kills against Mig - 21 in Vietnam


AUTREY DANIEL L 1st Lieutenant 35 TFS 09-12-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
BEATTY JAMES M JR Captain 35 TFS 05-23-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
BONGARTZ THEODORE R 1st Lieutenant 433 TFS 10-24-1967 MIG-21 F-4D Vietnam 20 MM 1
HARGROVE WILLIAM S 1st Lieutenant 555 TFS 09-09-1972 MIG-21 F-4D Vietnam 20 MM 1
HENDRICKSON JAMES L Captain 307 TFS 10-15-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
JASPERSON ROBERT H Captain 35 TFS 10-08-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
KIRK WILLIAM L Major 433 TFS 10-24-1967 MIG-21 F-4D Vietnam 20 MM 1
RETTERBUSH GARY L Major 35 TFS 09-12-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
RETTERBUSH GARY L Major 35 TFS 10-08-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
RUBUS GARY M Captain 307 TFS 10-15-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
SUMNER JAMES M 1st Lieutenant 35 TFS 05-23-1972 MIG-21 F-4E Vietnam 20 MM 1
TIBBETT CALVIN B Captain 555 TFS 09-09-1972 MIG-21 F-4D Vietnam 20 MM 1
TITUS ROBERT F Lieutenant Colonel 389 TFS 05-22-1967 MIG-21 F-4C Vietnam 20 MM 1
ZIMER MILAN 1st Lieutenant 389 TFS 05-22-1967 MIG-21 F-4C Vietnam 20 MM 1

MrMojok
10-23-2007, 06:09 PM
I don't know if this is all-inclusive or not:

http://users.accesscomm.ca/magnusfamily/ww2usa.htm

Stiletto-
10-23-2007, 08:27 PM
I really didn't get enough info from the guy, maybe some of the kills were in the Korean war or something though I doubt it. I hear he comes in often so maybe I can get his full name or his unit, and if he can't come up with much, either he doesn't want to talk about it or he is just a story teller. But as stated, 1000 go a day, soon there will be no real first hand stories to tell.

dugong
10-24-2007, 05:40 PM
I met Stephen Coonts. We were having a career day at school and I was talking to a few other teachers and with some of the presenters. A teacher knew I was an aviation buff and candidly mentioned the gentleman I was talking to was a pilot from Vietnam. I just said "I bet you have some great stories," he said yeah. We left it at that. A few moments later another teacher told me that was Stephen Coonts! I let him get away!

I have told that story here before. I think it was about 6 or so years ago. As a side note, his ex-wife, president of the PTA, hit on me. She was pretty hot. Of course I was engaged so I was not obliged! Oh well!

Divine-Wind
10-25-2007, 12:55 PM
Stephen Coonts! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif I loved Flight of the Intruder...

M2morris
10-25-2007, 04:56 PM
I have spent some time latley in the VA hospital in Temple Texas and there are more WW2 vets in there than you can shake a stick at, probably any day of the week. I was thinking that if someone was looking to do some interviews that would be a good place to go because it seems that they are usually willing to talk about what they did and where they were etc. You never know who you may be rubbin elbows with in there.