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Monson74
07-12-2005, 03:18 AM
So, who's gonna bring it home this year? Seems like a more exciting race now than it has been the previous years. What do you think? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

lbhskier37
07-12-2005, 07:15 AM
Don't mess with Texashttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CWH1089
07-12-2005, 07:29 AM
the man's got a lot of competition this year, but in the back of our minds we all know who's gonna take it agian this year http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050709/capt.tdf15807091733.cycling_tour_de_france_tdf158. jpg

edit: I fixed your link

steve_v
07-12-2005, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Monson74:
OT: The Yellow Jersey OT? I don't think so.
Agree that the Tour this year has been exceptional. After todays stage 10, Lance seems very much in control with the help of the Discovery team. Tomorrow will be even better with the Madeleine, Telegraphe, and Galibier.

http://www.letour.fr/2005/images/profil_11.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-12-2005, 10:59 AM
Yup coverage over here in the uk on terestrial tv has been pathetic but what I have seen of it sure has been good. Plenty of thrills and spills this year but the Armstrong is still looking in good shape and I think he is banking on taking that jersey with him when he retires http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dunkelgrun
07-12-2005, 11:59 AM
Armstrong. Not only will he win it again but he'll deserve to win it again.
My local pub has one of Miguel Indurain's hats on display; if they ever get one of Lance's then they'll really have to prise me out of there with a crowbar!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Lance Armstrong. The greatest.
From an old Eddie Merckx fan.


Cheers!

tplynn
07-12-2005, 12:03 PM
LANCE RULES!!

knightflyte
07-12-2005, 08:29 PM
My brother used to race competition cycling. He competed in the Paris Brest Paris race. Its a 600 mile (could be more.... but NOT less) race run over 2-3 days. It was GRUELING training for him. Even with all of his training (and it WAS A LOT) he had to drop out 30ish miles from the end because of severe leg cramps. Apparently his support team missed the refill location they were supposed to meet at and he never got water.

So.......... knowing what it takes from watching my brother to compete at that level I'm very impressed with Mr. Armstrong. (his own health victories notwithstanding which only ADD to the accomplishment)

As an aside.....I'm glad Cheryl Crow ain't there this year. The media played to much to her, when she actually has nothing to do with the race or anyones success. (I heard they broke up...)

Zyzbot
07-12-2005, 08:39 PM
Think again...she was there:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_galle....crow/content.2.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/12/gallery.crow/content.2.html)

knightflyte
07-12-2005, 11:51 PM
Oh, well. Nothing against her...... just don't think she needed to be featured like she was last year.

Zacast
07-13-2005, 12:42 AM
Lance, of course =)

Monson74
07-13-2005, 01:44 AM
Hmm.. well maybe he's just wearing everyone tired before igniting the afterburners. I myself have done some amateur biking since I was a kid & though I'm in a fairly decent shape I still think it's impressive to watch these guys go uphill at 40 km/h - hats off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

BaldieJr
07-13-2005, 10:02 AM
I haven't been able to watch since Rasmussen destroyed everyone on that hella climb.

I have no idea where the field is now. I need better TV!

steve_v
07-13-2005, 11:39 AM
EuroSport has live coverage and excellent commentary, both verbal and written. Check it out at http://www.eurosport.com/tourdefrance2005/

BaldieJr
07-13-2005, 12:14 PM
I just found OLN. They are showing the tour almost 24/7 here in the states. Here is the schedule:

http://www.olntv.com/tdf/article/view/758/?ss=tv&tf=Body.tpl

I like Lance as much as the next guy, but I have really enjoyed watching Rasmussen race.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-13-2005, 01:24 PM
Looks like I am gona have to get cable tv bloody channel 4 in the uk ditched the tour in (what seems like) favour of 24 hour coverage of that bloody big brother sh1t3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

sunflower1
07-13-2005, 02:26 PM
Lance set the stage for his whole career on the Manayunk Wall. He just road away from the best in the world as a youngster. Back then people thought perhaps he was only a one-day race sort of rider.

My friend Dan did a little riding with Lance while Lance was still an amatuer. His comment was, "the thing you don't really get about him until you ride next to him is how physically large he is compared to everyone else, he's bigger and stronger and his lungs work better."

My state's road race championship is named for Dan, he was a really credible cat 1 racer and was good enough to spend some time at the olympic training camp. In addition to being very generous with his knowledge,he was also a very talented observer of racers and racing. He thought, 15 years ago, that Lance would be far and away the best there had ever been, from having ridden with him on half a dozen training rides.

If you know anything about the personalities of bike racers, and their egos, you'll understand why I relate the story- a talented eye, himself a talented racer, thought that Lance would be unstoppable before he really demonstrated such ability. That's the kind of athlete Lance is.

TX-EcoDragon
07-13-2005, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Monson74:
So, who's gonna bring it home this year? Seems like a more exciting race now than it has been the previous years. What do you think? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Wait. . . there is a question about this??

;-)

RedDeth
07-13-2005, 06:09 PM
this is a joke right?

no one can compete with Lance Armstrong.

i put him in the top 5 athletes of all time.

of all sports.

LStarosta
07-13-2005, 06:49 PM
If Steve Prefontaine raced bikes, his name would be Lance Armstrong. Nuff said. This guy is as much a legend for cycling, in my opinion, as Steve Prefontaine is for Cross Country and Track.

I too put Armstrong in my top 5 list of athletes right there with Prefontaine.

GR142_Astro
07-13-2005, 08:37 PM
Merckx is still the greatest all-round racer to me, but Lance has knocked off a huge piece of sports history for himself. Seems odd that this will be his last, but it was a heckuva run.

Still, let's not forget about this trailblazer of US cycling:

http://www.cyclefit.co.uk/serrota_2004/pics/lemond.jpg

http://grahamwatson.com/dublin/lemond/images/image22.jpg

WWMaxGunz
07-13-2005, 08:51 PM
Steve_v, what's with that picture you keep showing? Sour grapes from some people?
It is an insult to what all Armstrong has been through and done but the crowd that
kind of thing probably comes from, nothing is too small for them. Nothing. They
know every time they take a leak.

GR142_Astro
07-13-2005, 09:04 PM
Not sure what the insult would be.

That's just a crazy diablo guy who's been a tour fixture for years. It cracks me up how long he can actually run alongside these guys going uphill. I would be tempted to do what Pedro Delgado did one year and chuck a full waterbottle at his head!

http://www.eniac.es/usuarios/earaoz/perico31.jpg

dadada1
07-14-2005, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
Steve_v, what's with that picture you keep showing? Sour grapes from some people?
It is an insult to what all Armstrong has been through and done but the crowd that
kind of thing probably comes from, nothing is too small for them. Nothing. They
know every time they take a leak.

Why so touchy? So defensive? Are you in posession of the facts?

He's a mad German who's been a regular feature of the tour for years and a big cycling fan. Heres a link below explaining who he is and how he got his knickname.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=33569

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-14-2005, 09:03 AM
Hey Max come on bro can't we all just get along http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sunflower1
07-14-2005, 09:17 AM
When LeMond was racing the US Juniors races would reach their field limits and sometimes you couldn't enter day-of-the-race. It hasn't been that way since, as far as I know, though a perusal of this year's amateur results locally looks better than it has in a long time.

BaldieJr
07-14-2005, 09:32 AM
Biking is hot stuff right now. I run into lots of other cyclists when I'm out on weekends.

I just wish these 50-somethings would stop passing me on hills. Surely its thier bikes.

dadada1
07-14-2005, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Biking is hot stuff right now. I run into lots of other cyclists when I'm out on weekends.

I just wish these 50-somethings would stop passing me on hills. Surely its thier bikes.

Sorry to report cycling is 90% rider 10% bike.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-14-2005, 10:05 AM
Hey if you want a real laugh do what I did and throw your gears away.....single speed all the way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

BaldieJr
07-14-2005, 11:15 AM
Single-speed might be fun but I love those high-speed flats and downhills too darned much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Congrats to David Moncoutie for todays stage win. What a day for a French victory eh?

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-14-2005, 11:30 AM
Kewl look forward to watching the highlights when I get home and your right about the single speed with regard to flats you just cant get the speed up although I still have some different ratio's to play with.

Downhills are pretty much the same as the ever were for me but then I ride single track hard tail not 'road'. Never was much of a 'stiff back' but can understand the appeal of the long distance road trip. Maybe one day I will treat myself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Freycinet
07-14-2005, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
Steve_v, what's with that picture you keep showing? Sour grapes from some people?
It is an insult to what all Armstrong has been through and done but the crowd that
kind of thing probably comes from, nothing is too small for them. Nothing. They
know every time they take a leak.

Take it easy, in Europe that pic is just funny, nothing else. The "devil" is a classic of the Tour. Would you happen to be very christian? I hear that many devout christians in the US have problems with depictions of the devil.

As for the Tour: GO RASMUSSEN! (I'm a fellow Dane). I hope you'll sprint away in the Pyrenees!

Monson74
07-15-2005, 07:39 AM
Check this out:

http://www.tourdefrancenews.com/tourdefrance/experts/co...s1-12604-661,00.html (http://www.tourdefrancenews.com/tourdefrance/experts/columns/0,5976,s1-12604-661,00.html)

38 seconds up to Lance - this is going to be a thrill. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

BaylorMax
07-15-2005, 07:44 AM
I'm looking forward to next year's tour when there is not a single dominant rider, yet! Who's going to win next year?

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-15-2005, 08:40 AM
Yeah thats an interesting point it should be quite a slug fest next year Thor / Ulrich perhaps or is he going to retire too? Maybe that guy from Khazakstan he put on a bloody good show on the mountain.

x6BL_Brando
07-15-2005, 09:34 AM
Hey, it's a great race this year ain't it? LA is one iron-willed guy, and his wingmen are really in that groove too. I hope the man retires on a win!

The Devil is hilarious and also kind of symbolic of what the race means. Putting one's body through sheer hell to achieve the shining Grail, why shouldn't there be a devil nagging away somewhere, exhorting you to give up and take a train? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

@Steve-v

I meant to pop this in an earlier thread but got sidetracked. My all-time hero of the Tour will always be Jacques Anquetil. It's an age thing, I know, and it's probably impossible to pick an all-time-greatest - but he surely made his mark!

I used to time-trial with a London club, and I did at least 15 miles every day on a high-geared, fixed-wheel Holdsworth. Shoe-plates & toe-clips of course, and just the front brake http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
It was a pig at first, but a great way to exercise all the leg muscles. I used to wish I could freewheel on the downhills - it was hell holding the pace with my legs! But I'd read that JA trained this way, so I had to emulate my hero http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this evening's resume on TV http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-15-2005, 10:34 AM
Yikes !! Fixed wheel ? Thats bloody scary stuff Brando

x6BL_Brando
07-15-2005, 01:28 PM
Yikes !! Fixed wheel ? Thats bloody scary stuff Brando


Looking back it was! At the time, I was 16 and it was all the vogue, how could I not? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The roads were a lot clearer in those days too - plenty of room to go over the top without getting instantly squashed by the car 6 inches off your back wheel, LOL.

BaldieJr
07-16-2005, 10:24 AM
Its saturday...

My speedplays have not arrived by post and Rasmussen has lost time in the Tour de Lance.