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blackpulpit1970
03-11-2006, 07:40 PM
Hello all what is the correct altitude for this plane to stay fast and do well, also what is best rad,prop pitch and gun convergence for this plane. Basically i would like to know peoples opinions on how to fly this plane properly and what are some of its advantages. Any info would be greatly appreciated and if someone could send me or post here a few tracks online or off of them flying it would be great, salute all and thanks.

VW-IceFire
03-11-2006, 11:00 PM
There are a few topics about this aircraft that have cropped up around here since release. You may want to search in depth for those http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Some very useful information is available at this website with regards to performance:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/tempest/temptest.html

Be sure to check for the +9lb boost variant. The other boosts (+11lb and +13lb) are faster at low altitudes while maintaing the same overall top speed.

This report in particular is good for outlining the type we have:

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/tempest/tp.html

The best height for changing the supercharger appears to be around 4000m. According to the test notes, the supercharger stage should be changed when the boot pressure falls below 4lbs in combat power or 2.5lbs at normal power.

Gun convergence is personal preference. Fly a QMB with the type, get a sense for when you start to shoot at enemies, and use that as your baseline for what your convergence should be. Mine is 290m for cannons and 275m for machine guns. I continually tweak these settings to get the best possible result for my preferences.

The best way to fly the Tempest is using energy techniques. While the type can actually turn fairly well that is a dangerous thing as speed bleeds quickly and the turn rate quickly worsens. Fly the Tempest like you would a Corsair or a FW190. Attack from above, use your speed to make a pass, use your roll and turn only when necessary to correct onto the target and either successfully destroy or break off.

Never get into a sustained turn fight.

Engine settings are interesting in this plane. WEP causes overheat quickly. Use ample radiator while not in combat and use the "prop pitch" control to maintain the RPM's at a more nominal level when using WEP. Somewhere around 80% seems to work well although results do varry depending on how much management you want to invest.

The Tempest is a specialists aircraft much like the FW190 or P-38. You need to know your plane and know it well. Other types you can jump into and do fairly adequately but with these they tend to take some work, knowledge, and management skills to keep in the fight. Good luck!

skabbe
03-12-2006, 06:41 AM
the boom and zoom is not what I expeted from the tempest, and I am a bit annoyed that YAK outperform tempest in every way.


though if you want to climb, dont do it steep. pluss you can overheat the engine for like 3 minutes or more

Brain32
03-12-2006, 11:22 AM
the boom and zoom is not what I expeted from the tempest
Then your expectations were wrong. Overall Tempest is modelled superb, but lowest possible boost rating is really preventing it to shine.
11lbs is what we should have.
Oleg can we trade 25lbs Spitfire(UFO http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif) for a proper Tempest?

VW-IceFire
03-12-2006, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by skabbe:
the boom and zoom is not what I expeted from the tempest, and I am a bit annoyed that YAK outperform tempest in every way.


though if you want to climb, dont do it steep. pluss you can overheat the engine for like 3 minutes or more
You were joking about this right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Right?

mynameisroland
03-12-2006, 01:41 PM
Yak 9 U out does the Tempest 9lb in most areas. Id be comfortable fighting a Yak in the Tempest but Id be equally happy about fighting a Tempest in a 9 U if you know what I mean.

The only fighter that makes me poo myself at the moment when Im in a Tempest is the D9.

Kocur_
03-12-2006, 02:18 PM
Just flew a couple of sorties in a DF server in Tempest. Just do what IceFire said and you will be as happy about Tempest as Iam now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Btw. I joked a while ago, that proof of Tempest proper modelling would be its disapperance from DF servers in a few days after it was introduced. Lots of Spitfires, Yaks, Las, Bf-109s but I saw maybe one more Tempest during those like 2hrs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VW-IceFire
03-13-2006, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Kocur_:
Just flew a couple of sorties in a DF server in Tempest. Just do what IceFire said and you will be as happy about Tempest as Iam now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Btw. I joked a while ago, that proof of Tempest proper modelling would be its disapperance from DF servers in a few days after it was introduced. Lots of Spitfires, Yaks, Las, Bf-109s but I saw maybe one more Tempest during those like 2hrs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I know...it was insanely popular for maybe 48 hours after the patch release and now its quite common for me to be the only guy in a 1944/1945 dogfight server to be flying it. Its like I had said all along...dangerous to the enemy in the right hands and dangerous to the pilot in the wrong hands.

Your assumption is pretty much bang on with what I had assumed as well. Can we call you an oracle? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As for the Yak-9U outperforming it...thats an unusual thing to think about. Turning wise I'd say the Yak-9U will ultimately win out but when it comes to speed, dives, and firepower the Tempest is far better. Hardballs aircraft viewer for instance puts the Tempest as superior in speed at altitude as well as sea level while turn and power to weight are in the Yak's favour.

Lets also keep in mind that the Tempest has double the range and likely has a higher cruise speed. The Tempest like any other fighter has its share of advantages and disadvantages...its not perfect or best in category in every single way. But its very close against the opposition and thus a pilot who leverages its strengths against the enemy will have a solid chance.

This is the sort of fighter I expected and was hoping to spend some time learning. I'm starting to break the surface of understanding the aircraft now. I can be seriously dangerous now. Which is good...

Brain32
03-13-2006, 05:15 PM
Currently the only thing that bothers me about our Tempest is that it's early 1944 Tempest, properly flown Dora is almost untouchable because when you attack it, it will outdive/outaccelrate/outrun you. This can be quite frustrating inability to catch any late 44+ Axis plane is quite dissapointing.
11lbs should had been done, in all other aspects of our Tempest(handling,DM,etc.), I'm perfectly happy.

VW-IceFire
03-13-2006, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Brain32:
Currently the only thing that bothers me about our Tempest is that it's early 1944 Tempest, properly flown Dora is almost untouchable because when you attack it, it will outdive/outaccelrate/outrun you. This can be quite frustrating inability to catch any late 44+ Axis plane is quite dissapointing.
11lbs should had been done, in all other aspects of our Tempest(handling,DM,etc.), I'm perfectly happy.
Hawker Haven on CWOS...see what we can do.

MLudner
03-13-2006, 05:32 PM
I constantly have over-heat problems in combat with the Tempest. I am beginning to think of it more as a Typhoon within this game...

Should the boost only be used in short - very short - bursts?

jds1978
03-15-2006, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by MLudner:
I constantly have over-heat problems in combat with the Tempest. I am beginning to think of it more as a Typhoon within this game...

Should the boost only be used in short - very short - bursts?

Overheat is the Tempest's Achilles Heel. I fly with rads fully open and prop pitch at 85-90% when not in combat and very seldom overheat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif