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rijnton1944
03-09-2005, 04:14 PM
Although I bought a Geforce 6600GT not so long ago I already think about upgrading. This game is so addicting....and my wife doesn't have a problem with it. I was thinking of the Geforce 6800GT or Ultra.
What I would like to know is:
1} Is the Geforce 6800 GT a good choice ? And does it need more power than the 6600 GT, which works fine on my 350W psu ?
2} Is the 6800 Ultra worth the extra money ( I think it's about " 100,- more here in Holland ). If so, do I then also need another power supply ? That would set me back another " 100,- I suppose.
3) Does it matter which brand I buy ? I now have a XFX, that did't give problems until now and which is easy available in my neighborhood. I also saw a shop not far away from here that sells the XFX 6800GT with
singleDVI (don't need dual) for a competive price. The other brands available here are Club3D, Asus and MSI.
Thanks in advance.

BaldieJr
03-09-2005, 04:17 PM
6800GT OC from BFG

As for performance increase over your current card: I've no idea. I only know that the BFG 6800GT OC is the best bang for buck in the 6xxx series.

crazyivan1970
03-09-2005, 04:20 PM
I`d upgrade PSU first. 350W nowdays... is like having 4GB hard drive http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Deffinitely pushing it for 6800GT and higher. Ever considered ATI? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Obi_Kwiet
03-09-2005, 04:28 PM
Patience padawan. In May the R520 will be out. 24 pixel pipelines. Estimated to be 3x the speed of the X800XT. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

crazyivan1970
03-09-2005, 04:29 PM
24 pipes huh... where is the world coming to lol

rijnton1944
03-09-2005, 04:30 PM
Thanks. Didn't consider ATI until now, because I read all these raving reviews of NVidia.

crazyivan1970
03-09-2005, 04:40 PM
Don`t believe anything you read mate. Nvidia got caught cheating on bench marks not once http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-09-2005, 04:44 PM
6800GT is too slow for your needs?

Get compressor cooling for CPU, RAM and GFX-card and a Warp-Core inside your PC and you can play IL2 with so many FPS your monitor will melt away.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BaldieJr
03-09-2005, 04:48 PM
nVidia is as innocent of that charge as ATI. Shame shame shame!

faustnik
03-09-2005, 04:50 PM
I'd wait on an ATI until they fix some issues with PF.

Xiolablu3
03-09-2005, 05:07 PM
Don't waste money upgrading from a 6600GT to a 6800 mate.

Its daft.

The 6600 should already run your games on high-max detail.

What are you going to gain from buying a 6800? A big whole in your wallet.

MrOblongo
03-09-2005, 05:14 PM
Lol...and some of us still have a GeForce MX400 64MB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif .

rijnton1944
03-10-2005, 04:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
6800GT is too slow for your needs?

Get compressor cooling for CPU, RAM and GFX-card and a Warp-Core inside your PC and you can play IL2 with so many FPS your monitor will melt away.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably you misread my question. I have the 6600GT and think about upgrading to a 6800GT.
Or do you mean something else ?

Manos1
03-10-2005, 06:41 AM
The 6600GT is one of the best cards to have today (best value for money).

I would consider buying a new card ONLY if it would allow me do one of the following (or both):

- Fly with water=3
(change the line in your conf.ini to water=3 and watch the IL2FB video with the F4F Corsair attacking the Japanese Destroyer, watch the movemenet of the waves in the video)
- Fly at resolutions 1600x1400

Flying with water=3 requires a graphics card with ShaderModel 3.0, only nVidia cards have this option today.
Unfortunately, even a 6800GT does not fly very well with water=3, frames rates are very low.

Therefore, waiting for the new ATI card (May 2005, with Shader3.0) is for me the best option!
24 "Pipelines"
32 Texture Units
96 Arithmetic Logic Units (ALU)
192 Shader Operations per Cycle
700MHz Core
134.4 Billion Shader Operations per Second (at 700MHz)
256-bit 512MB 1.8GHz GDDR3 Memory
57.6 GB/sec Bandwidth (at 1.8GHz)
300-350 Million Transistors
90nm Manufacturing
Shader Model 3.0
ATI HyperMemory
ATI Multi Rendering Technology (SLI)
Launch: Q2 2005
Performance: Over 3x Radeon X800 XT !!! (for single R520)
And I do not dare guessing what nVidea will come out with as responce by September... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Alternatives in the meantime?
- Buy a new, SLI motherboard
You can then put two nVidia Graphics cards inside (almost doubles the performance in very high resolutions)
LOTS OF MONEY INVOLVED (new motherboard + 2x graphics cards)

- Just overclock your current graphics card (and wait for the next nVidia or ATI model)
You need a small program ForceWare Coolbits 2.0 to unlock the hidden features of the nVidia drivers. Then, oyu can let the nVidia drivers decide how much your graphics card can be overclocked.
Apart from that you need to find some information about the ideal settings of your conf.ini
Read here http://e-335thgreeksquadron.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72
(extracts of postings I found in the IL2FB Forum)
The 6600GT GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) is manufactured with a better process than the GPU of the 6800 series. The size of the chip is smaller for the same number of transistors.
The advantage is less heat and therefore the GPU can withstand higher MHz speeds.
The 6600GTs can be overclocked at much higher speeds than the 6800s. Because of that, at low resolutions (1024x768) they tend to reach the speed of the 6800s.
My 6600GT is overclocked by about 100MHz ! By the original nVidia drivers. And since the nVidia drivers monitor the GPU temperature the driver will revert to the initial GPU speed if it notices overheat.