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Kaleun1961
06-10-2007, 08:21 PM
Somebody in another forum pointed out this site, amateur photos from the Yugoslavian civil war. I've only looked at a few, so cannot vouch for the 60+ pages of photos. And of course, I only post this for general interest, not to start a political discussion about that war.

Balkan War (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31537)

TooFastForLove.
06-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Very interesting pics, and I can sure say I'm glad I wasn't there.


Actually that is one war I really never understood. I've made some half-hearted attempts to learn the gist of the war, who did what, and the motives behind it, however it never really came to me. Perhaps I'd have to sit down and read a book about it some time.

Messervy
06-10-2007, 08:46 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?s=1...f1eca&t=31537&page=2 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?s=1ba760d2c5b28c6b7ff1bbf9a41f1eca&t=31537&page=2)

b.Scheller - post No.27 explains it in few words.

Celeon999
06-11-2007, 02:56 AM
Oahhh that was really one of the dirtiest wars among the dirty ones. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

All those paramilitary nutter's , armed to the teeth and out of control, with nobody really able to tell what their agenda was/is and on which side they are on.

Ive posted some pics from the post war time (if that ever really has arrived) before here.

Moving heavy armor into Pristina..... finally. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3295/00003557100071jd1.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3481/00003557100061tg1.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7937/00003559130091dk0.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2779/00003557110121wt0.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5393/00003557490031sg4.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/386/00003557490041yq3.jpg

Goose_Green
06-11-2007, 03:03 AM
It was one of those wars where the media totally miss informed the masses mainly because they had their own agenda plus the conflict was so confusing. The peeps at home would never understand it.

I only understood it better when I was in BiH in 2000 - 2001 as a member of the UK's commitment to SFOR. Only then did I manage to scrape the surface of the whole thing. It's centuries old mistrust and hatred being bottled up until the pressure cooker blew it's lid in 1991.

I have pictures of my time there, you can find them here Bosnia Hercegovina (http://www.pbase.com/kevbelcher/bosnia_2000__2001)

Celeon999
06-11-2007, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by Goose_Green:
It was one of those wars where the media totally miss informed the masses mainly because they had their own agenda plus the conflict was so confusing. The peeps at home would never understand it.

I only understood it better when I was in BiH in 2000 - 2001 as a member of the UK's commitment to SFOR. Only then did I manage to scrape the surface of the whole thing. It's centuries old mistrust and hatred being bottled up until the pressure cooker blew it's lid in 1991.

I have pictures of my time there, you can find them here Bosnia Hercegovina (http://www.pbase.com/kevbelcher/bosnia_2000__2001)

Not just the media, it was also NATO inventing a lot of "bullsh-you know" to cover up mistakes and justify military strikes.


I remember this story of serbian militias burning some village by opening gas valves in the houses cellar's and putting candles in the attics as some form of timer fuse.


Nice story, but physically impossible as gas is heavier than air and so the gas can never reach the attic with the candle.

Ergo : If you do this, absolutely nothing will happen.

The story was made up and never happened.

Reporters travelled to the village a few years after and found it completely intact , the inhabitants never saw a single serbian soldier during the whole conflict.

Another thing was a manipulated Luftwaffe recon photo.

Our former defense minister presented this photo to the press as proof of ethnic cleansings in big scale.

Journalists found out that the date shown on the photo was manipulated with photoshop to create the impression that this photo was shot recently.

The truth is that the photo pre-dated serbian movements in that region.

The inhabitants left the village a month before the fire. It was propably caused by a stray artillery grenade and the whole village burned down as nobody was there to extinguish the fire.

The whole conflict was not just complex it was and is full of lies and propaganda from all sides. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Its better not to turn that TV on http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Goose_Green
06-11-2007, 03:46 AM
Yeah, I heard that story about the gas in the homes thing - but I never bought it though.

The thing that people would never understand are the scenarios where Serbs were fighting with Bosnians to fight Croats in one area, while in another area the Serbs would be fighting with the Croats against the Bosnians - this whole thing would confuse the hell of of any ordinary folk back home while watching it on TV.

In the end the Serbs were made out to be the bad guy while the Bosnians were made out to be the poor innocent ones - but far from the truth as each side were as bad as each other. All with a little help form the Media and NATO, while the poor old guys dressed in blue berets and white vehicles were left powerless and stuck in the middle of it all.

Messervy
06-11-2007, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by Goose_Green:
All with a little help form the Media and NATO, while the poor old guys dressed in blue berets and white vehicles were left powerless and stuck in the middle of it all.

Goose, have you seen a TV movie "Warriors"?
It's a perfect example of the above statement.

Goose_Green
06-11-2007, 06:49 AM
I don't recall a movie called that - maybe I should look it up.

Messervy
06-11-2007, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Goose_Green:
I don't recall a movie called that - maybe I should look it up.

Higly recomended! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

gsc67
06-11-2007, 10:01 AM
Hi gents....
Great discussion...
My next door niebour is from there and he and his brother both fought in the war. His brother lives with him now and lost both legs to a mine. He sat down with me one night after he came over and walked into the garage and saw me cleaning my Yugo 59/66. Well...needless to say I recieved a first rate education on brutal warfare. His daughter, now 18, still jumps at the slightest loud sound and you can only imagine the terror that never leaves. There is war...then there is WAR. Until I listened to him I never truly understood the real difference. I know now that I am a better man to have met him.
Thanks for the post guys !

klcarroll
06-11-2007, 11:13 AM
@gsc67;

I think you have "hit the nail on the head"!!

We seem to be moving into an era where "Fear and Horror" are the primary weapons.

....It makes me wonder if we will ever attain the status of "A Civilized Species".

Sad, ......Very Sad!

*

[]_---_[] KITT
06-13-2007, 12:13 AM
All war is saddening. I have only remember glimpses of tv news about the Balkan war when it was happening....I didn't and still don't know what was really goin on in that war....i was still in my primary/secondary school days back then. I used to be told to be quiet whenever i said somethin....well...'provocative'...in my own home or even room though in my mind i was only saying what i believed. It was an era of a different order.

Celeon999
06-13-2007, 03:09 AM
Funny coincidence : At the moment our government thinks about extending our KFOR mandate for yet another year.

10 years....and they still cannot go. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

If you ask me..they wont be able until another 10 years have past.

The situation will become critical again when the Kosovo may declare itself independent. This will be the next big trigger for paramilitary violence as the serbian militias will never accept this and the albanian militias will answer every move they might make. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif


Here are some more pics. Very old and taken during or short after the war.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4544/76erversmechbtl081pj9.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2729/76erversmechbtl111sj8.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4061/76erversmechbtl151yt3.jpg

A destroyed church. Propably another retaliation attack for some other retaliation that destroyed a mosque or something. The ping-pong of violence in full run. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4631/31204681ik6.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8673/31179091ve8.jpg


Propably a common view for Goose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/560/76erversmechbtl171dw6.jpg

Kaleun1961
06-13-2007, 08:03 PM
Why does that second picture remind me of the "Ramel" scene in Saving Private Ryan? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

VikingGrandad
06-14-2007, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
Why does that second picture remind me of the "Ramel" scene in Saving Private Ryan? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

I see exactly what you mean http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

(watch out for sticky bombs...)

Celeon999
06-14-2007, 04:01 AM
I know it too.

But what just in this moment really worries me is that it was a ---->Sock<---- bomb http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

I wonder what Socko's comment to that scene would sound like ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Do i really want to know ?


I like this pic

Making new friends http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"...and if you ever say again that Miroslav Klose is a bad goal hunter ...."


http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/729/00003558770061xd7.jpg

Jaste07
06-14-2007, 09:04 AM
All very interesting photos. Look at how young some of the militiamen are in the second photo from the first post.

That last photo is pretty good, haha I'd like to know what he's saying right there.

gsc67
06-14-2007, 09:16 AM
He is most likely saying... " My wife would never ride that pole right there in the open... she would only do it inside where there is air-condition ! Get you **** straight buddy !! "