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marc_hawkins
07-02-2007, 04:18 PM
Sooo, tentatively i've been going online and since i am **** and have a not state of the art rig or internet connection I have mostly stuck to ground pounding with the occasional rear gun action to get an air to air kill. when i am in a fighter, even with wonder woman view i stood no chance!

Well, today on uk ded 2 on the channel map I was having a go at the ships in my trusty HE111 but was meeting stiff fighter opposition and was getting shot down before i could drop my torp and thought, what the hell, in a fighter i can atleast hopefully distract some attention from the bombers.

So taking off in a F4 I blundered about and was taken out by a niftly flown mossie, but then on my second go i got into a scrap with a spit, (can't remember his name but cheers mate!) real furball where i twisted and frantically looked for him (and I admit used ww view to orientate myself) and believe it or not I somehow got him, first some solid hits on the port wing and a long burst that broke it off, and into the sea he went!

The thing i did not expect was the sweat down my back and my trembling hands as i leveled off and ran home to claim my points, I actually felt exhausted, elated and actually a little scared! Never had that in a game before, only an echo in off-line il2.

I know people have mentioned it before, but do give it a go if you have never gone online as the description doesn't do it justice. Anyways i actually claimed another spit as well in that game (bit like buses really your first online kill) before resuming my cannon fodder status. Had a go at the jets server and jets are lots of fun even without shooting anything!

Anyway lots of rambling but the point is you never forget your first online kill!

Jaws2002
07-02-2007, 04:45 PM
Great!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Way to go!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Online can be really exciting sometimes. I remember quite a few times that I was completly exausted after a hard fight with tough opponents. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

A human opponent can be really unpredictable.

SeaFireLIV
07-02-2007, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:



The thing i did not expect was the sweat down my back and my trembling hands as i leveled off and ran home to claim my points, I actually felt exhausted, elated and actually a little scared!


Yea, it`s the Human facter. Happened to me first time I went online too.

You know the guy twisting and turning in that computer representation of a Spitfire is real, he`s not an artificial routine, a robot, an object, but a real Human Being, desperately NOT wanting you to shoot him down. You WANT to shoot him down. It`s Human versus Human, it`s the closest you can get to the real thing in WWII without actually dying. AI can never match it cos no matter how `smart` it is, we will always know it`s not Human with the fear of being defeated, with the challenge of facing someone alive.

It wears off after a couple more dogfights.

Then you`ll see the negative side with people who T\K you or steal kills or just use the chat bar to argue and you`ll be glad there`s still an offline AI to go back to sometimes. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

orkan_3d
07-02-2007, 05:02 PM
Occasionally online as 'lampysrevenge'-please aim at the canopy to lessen suffering thankyou

This kind of attitude you must respect!

Deadmeat313
07-02-2007, 05:08 PM
Excellent stuff. Online play really does get the heart rate going doesn't it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I am similar to yourself in that I mostly fly groundpounders unless I want to be an aerial distraction in a fighter. Sometimes I can dogfight successfully, but mostly I get killed in a fighter duel.

I had a mission recently on UK_Ded 2 on the new Italian map, where I flew a Beaufighter on a torpedo run against Axis shipping. On the return leg after successfully sinking a freighter, I was within sight of home base when I spotted a FW-190, strafing ground targets a couple of miles off my port beam.

I thought: he doesn't seem to have seen me, so I can probably get by and land. I'll get good points for the sinking of the enemy ship. OR, I could try to sneak up on him and apply the considerable forward firepower of this machine. The downside being that if he spots me he will be able to run rings around me, and since I have no visibility at all in the rear hemisphere I'll be (ahem) deadmeat.

Common sense went out the window, and down after the Focke-Wulf I flew. I approached in a long, shallow powerdive. As he completed another strafing run and went into a shallow climb, I dropped in behind him.

And totally missed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

I could tell he'd seen the tracer flying past his canopy and he started to take evasive action. I said some bad words, expecting imminent death, but while he jinked and evaded, he didn't try any sharp heavy maneuvers that would have thrown me. It seems he was trying to keep his speed up by being gentle on the controls.

That was fine by me because I was barreling along with loads of spare energy. I followed. He decided to go ballistic and pulled into a vertical zoom climb. I followed, and as he slowed towards the top of his arc I pumped his kite full of .50 and .303 calibre lead. The FW was shattered and one wing was blown off. The pilot bailed as the wreck reached the top of its ballistic arc and started downwards. My Beaufighter carried on straight up past him, buoyed on a massive reserve of energy after my long powerdive.

At this point I was about a minute from my airfield, so it was a simple thing to line up -lower flaps and gear - and perform a (somewhat wobbly) landing.

Wobbly, because I was shaking like a leaf http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif , and I even had to take a few minutes to calm down afterwards.

I love this game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif


TG.

marc_hawkins
07-02-2007, 05:15 PM
Thanks Jaws2002! Still feeling funky about it now! Indeed guys, i even noted with a touch of regret in all the madness that he was too low to bail out, when really of course he was sat in his chair just feeling a bit annoyed (or hopefully pleased with the fight even if it didn't go his way) The downside of human interaction i have began to notice online, but so far i have not let it annoy me too much, the Roxx0Rs1111elevennoneone111!1 people are more than compensated by the good moments at the mo, as is the chance to gain the barest echo of what it was like for those boys back then.

marc_hawkins
07-02-2007, 05:23 PM
I am similar to yourself in that I mostly fly groundpounders unless I want to be an aerial distraction in a fighter. Sometimes I can dogfight successfully, but mostly I get killed in a fighter duel.

Well the way i see it we just represent the majority of real world pilots who never were aces and just hoped to live long enough to prop up the squadron bar and use the pilot glamor to pick up women http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


This kind of attitude you must respect!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
07-02-2007, 05:29 PM
Then you`ll see the negative side with people who T\K you or steal kills or just use the chat bar to argue and you`ll be glad there`s still an offline AI to go back to sometimes.

Yes this does happen everywhere but how often it happens depends on the server you choose to fly in. You will find these things happen far less frequent if you fly in the following servers.

Zeke vs Wildcat
Spits vs 109s
HISTORIA
Warclouds
Winds of War

There are a few others Im sure I left out but the servers I mentioned have very good admins who will not tolerate such behavior. Also if you want a great online experience I can not recommend FS War enough, you can check it out here. http://www.forgottenskies.com/ForgottenWars/default.aspx#

S!

BrotherVoodoo
07-02-2007, 05:51 PM
The thing i did not expect was the sweat down my back and my trembling hands as i leveled off and ran home to claim my points, I actually felt exhausted, elated and actually a little scared! Never had that in a game before, only an echo in off-line il2.


I still happens to me every fight, I love it! No other game makes me do that besides ARMA. S! Sir and welcome to the online skies. If you want to try some coops join in any of the 99th games, we would love to have you.

Xiolablu3
07-02-2007, 06:50 PM
Glad you enjoyed it.

Just one point, you couldnt have gone to WW view on UKded2 cos its cockpit always on.

Where you either on UKded1, or did you mean external view/padlock? If so, dont worry about it, everyone without trackIR uses padlock if its available.

mbfRoy
07-02-2007, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
The thing i did not expect was the sweat down my back and my trembling hands as i leveled off and ran home to claim my points, I actually felt exhausted, elated and actually a little scared! Never had that in a game before, only an echo in off-line il2.
That's exactly what I love about online gameplay and it never gets old

marc_hawkins
07-02-2007, 07:32 PM
Where you either on UKded1
That must of been the feller! All the excitement y'know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


If you want to try some coops join in any of the 99th games, we would love to have you.

Cheers! I may take you up on that sometime! Taking babysteps so far but I think co-ops are the future!

Should maybe go to bed but have nothing to do tomorrow.. Might just have a fly! Oh there goes my life i suppose. After all this time I've still only got the saitek st290 joystick... time to sell liver at some point for all the gubbins I suppose!

slappedsilly
07-02-2007, 07:40 PM
Got my name by going online. I accused people of cheating for nearly a week. Then I finally realized I STANK! I'm better now and can hold my own. I love some of the visuals you get online with 20-30 planes slugging it out over one airfield.

VW-IceFire
07-02-2007, 10:04 PM
Glad you had a good time online...and you picked a good server too. One of my favourites http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yeah it really gets your heart going now and again. I find that more in the harder servers but no matter what mode you're playing its always a blast. There is a dark side to multiplayer but its also quite rewarding.

Next step...grab TeamSpeak and get yourself a cheap mic (mine is as cheap as they come) and get on some of the TeamSpeak servers. Its another one of those things I hesitated to do but it adds a huge other level to online play. Many servers have a TeamSpeak server that goes hand in hand with the IL-2 server.

Badsight-
07-03-2007, 12:39 AM
i still remember the very first online game i joined

what an eye-opener

Worf101
07-03-2007, 05:19 AM
Nice thread and congrats. We all remember our first "online kills" of live opponents. It was "unexpected" for me as well. I'm glad you've hung in there I was discouraged too.

Da Worfster

ake109
07-03-2007, 05:32 AM
What are the good online servers if I want to fly Me-262s vs bombers?

Xiolablu3
07-03-2007, 05:40 AM
MOst of the good servers have Me262's in one or two maps in the rotation, but its really a case of just flying the server you like until it comes around.

You would be waiting a loooong time if you were just on to play Me262.

Also, are you going to be the one flying the bomber? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif


Get on hyperlobby and ask someone to run a coop with me262 vs bombers, thats probably the best idea.

SeaFireLIV
07-03-2007, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by ake109:
What are the good online servers if I want to fly Me-262s vs bombers?


Slight problem with that is that as said before, you`re fighting against Humans and there aren`t many people who want to go up against Me262s without backup. In fact, many servers won`t allow me262s at all since it`s simply an unfair battle. Remember 262s did not go up in equal numbers against fighters in real life and also suffered all kinds of problems, even down to pilots being unfamiliar with the aircraft.

There`s probably servers out there, but unless it`s a CO OP, you`ll get stiff opposition from fighters and you`ll probably be on your own.

Xiolablu3
07-03-2007, 12:32 PM
Ukded2 has some good balanced planesets with Me262's in the mix. They are usually limited to about 15-20 planes. ALso a few Do335's, usually about 5-8

(Forget the name of the map, maybe someone can chip in here)

SPitfire25lbs/Mustang III/Tempest/P51/P47 Late/P38 vs Me262/Ta152/190D9/109K4/ A few Do335's

Berlin 1945 -

La7B20/Yak3P/Yak9u/IL10/A20 vs Me262 (20)/Fw190D9/109K4/Fw190A9/Me110/Ju88

Both good maps.

VMF-214_HaVoK
07-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ake109:
What are the good online servers if I want to fly Me-262s vs bombers?


Slight problem with that is that as said before, you`re fighting against Humans and there aren`t many people who want to go up against Me262s without backup. In fact, many servers won`t allow me262s at all since it`s simply an unfair battle. Remember 262s did not go up in equal numbers against fighters in real life and also suffered all kinds of problems, even down to pilots being unfamiliar with the aircraft.

There`s probably servers out there, but unless it`s a CO OP, you`ll get stiff opposition from fighters and you`ll probably be on your own. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will take a Mustang or P-47 against the 262 anyday in any server. Would be different going against an equally skilled person in a 1v1 room with room to climb be sure, but in the typical server with the typical pilot I love it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

marc_hawkins
07-03-2007, 05:05 PM
I am definitely taking things slowly, getting online in the first place was a major step, since i have a low opinion of my own skills. teamspeak i will do I think as will i kinda join with others kinda in dogfight servers to gain experience before taking the new leap onto co-ops. I noticed today on ukded1 that a couple of us JU88 pilots grouped togever kinda on the desert map in an informal way on route to target, which was kinda cool. landed with one too and he joined me as we swerved onto the apron. Getting back alive is still an achievement in itself! also i find i take care in landing so as not to appear lame in others eyes! how strange. My basic flying skills are improving just because i am in the eyes of my peers i think! shall brave uk ded 2 soon i think...

Oh yes, and because i generally join the side that has less pilots, I am flying aircraft I have not generally got around to. PE 2 FTW!