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tigertalon
02-03-2007, 08:04 AM
So?

Markku38
02-03-2007, 08:10 AM
Original Finnish http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WWSensei
02-03-2007, 08:14 AM
Spanish originally, though it's been many years since I've usedit regularly. Left Spain when just a child.

capt_frank
02-03-2007, 08:20 AM
Actually, English is my second language. I was originally fluent in Gibberish.

BSS_CUDA
02-03-2007, 08:24 AM
I speak American, Not the King's English

MEGILE
02-03-2007, 08:26 AM
Yes.

RCAF_Irish_403
02-03-2007, 09:12 AM
i speak 'murican

Sintubin
02-03-2007, 09:22 AM
I am belgian ----> We speak here a mix of Dutch/French/German+ English at shool

BrewsterPilot
02-03-2007, 09:23 AM
English is my third language.
What do I win? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif
Anyway, living in Finland, Swedish as my mother tongue, Finnish my father tongue and English learned by living one year in the USA and reading almost only books in English.

horseback
02-03-2007, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
I speak American, Not the King's English Who is this false king you speak of, you vile colonial?

English is literally my first tongue, since that's where I was born. Actually had the accent and everything, until my Dad got transferred from RAF Wethersfield back Stateside to Mountain Home AFB...Essex to Idaho, now there's a transition for you!

cheers

horseback

Deedsundone
02-03-2007, 09:36 AM
From the country of IKEA. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

MEGILE
02-03-2007, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by horseback:

English is literally my first tongue, since that's where I was born. Actually had the accent and everything, until my Dad got transferred from RAF Wethersfield back Stateside to Mountain Home AFB...Essex to Idaho, now there's a transition for you!

cheers

horseback

You lost the accent? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Well anything's better than essex I guess http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

BillyTheKid_22
02-03-2007, 09:53 AM
Howdy! I am deaf and little speak, I am good sign lanaguage!!!! I can Sign Lanaguage Russia, little Mexico, American, Indian sign Language!!! I will learn German sign Lanaguage. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and Cool!!



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DuxCorvan
02-03-2007, 10:07 AM
I'm a Spaniard. I speak Spanish as a scholar and English like a dork. But I'm fluent in the language of physical love.

I.JG53_Steuben
02-03-2007, 10:13 AM
Iam german and i voted yes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Why? ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages

BillyTheKid_22
02-03-2007, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by I.JG53_Steuben:
Iam german and i voted yes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Why? ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I did read it!!!

leitmotiv
02-03-2007, 10:26 AM
Raised to speak Californian but excellent education corrected that.

BillyTheKid_22
02-03-2007, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Raised to speak Californian but excellent education corrected that.


I know! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Good Stuff is Californian Sigh Langauge!! My friend is few deaf people!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

major_setback
02-03-2007, 10:43 AM
Yes. I'm English. But, we dislike being referred to as natives!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


I also speak a little Ikea: "Billy, plomb, klippan, solen". "Det fattas visst en sexkantskruv".

Monty_Thrud
02-03-2007, 10:53 AM
Yes, English is my first language, unless i've had copious amounts of Ale...God bless the Queen!

leitmotiv
02-03-2007, 10:55 AM
Since English were never natives here, how can anybody in the U.S. be a native English speaker? I am also fluent in redneck and ***** bastard.

XyZspineZyX
02-03-2007, 11:01 AM
I'm a french-canadian. So I get referred to as Frenchie, frog, etc...,by my fellow english speaking countrymen. I learned Newfie english at the age of 4, but like leitmotiv, education solved the problem of speaking like one o dem B'ys.

BillyTheKid_22
02-03-2007, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Since English were never natives here, how can anybody in the U.S. be a native English speaker? I am also fluent in redneck and ***** bastard.


I am laugh!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

leitmotiv
02-03-2007, 11:25 AM
Having lived in London, I also understand Yob. A Yorkshire girlfriend taught me that difficult language and thanks to her I wear a flat hat and go about with a whippet.

BillyTheKid_22
02-03-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Having lived in London, I also understand Yob. A Yorkshire girlfriend taught me that difficult language and thanks to her I wear a flat hat and go about with a whippet.


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

waffen-79
02-03-2007, 11:38 AM
nope, but it is my second language

amilaninia
02-03-2007, 12:08 PM
English is my third language,Persian and Spanish are the other two respectively.

ploughman
02-03-2007, 12:08 PM
Thanks to the vagaries o' de Cold War my cradle tongues (sounds dodgy, eh?) were German and English. I'd need regressive therapy to remember any Deutsch now apart from 'achtung, spifire' so yes I'm a native, and I'm and English speaker.

I picked up some Arabic, and duly forgot it, still dream in Indonesian occassionally, and am about to learn Welsh.

tigertalon
02-03-2007, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Since English were never natives here, how can anybody in the U.S. be a native English speaker? I am also fluent in redneck and ***** bastard.

lol good one. So, which is your native language then? 'murrican? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Hmm, how bout using 'first' instead of native then, ok?

I'm born and raised in Slovenia, so my native is Slovenian. Due to common history/TV,radio,music influence/school I also speak Croatian-Serbian. English came as the third, German as fourth (not exactly fluent yet) and learning Russian now.

Slovenia is extremely small (2 million citizens) yet we have sooooo many sooooo different accents that people from one side of the country can have a hard time understanding the ones from the other (especially the ones from hungarian border, as this language is completely different than ours). http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Marcel_Albert
02-03-2007, 12:10 PM
nope but i try my best http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Brain32
02-03-2007, 12:25 PM
No I am not, but I'm damn good at it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

mrsiCkstar
02-03-2007, 12:32 PM
my native language is the ever so excellent Finnish... then I was taught German in school but have forgotten all of that... English and Norwegian are the languages I speak the most.

Taylortony
02-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
I speak American, Not the King's English

that must be through your butt then http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I fart English better than most Americans speak it.......

BTW, Its, the Queens English, you know that old tart that costs the UK taxpayer a fortune whilst Breeding the most backward analy ******ed bunch of Hanger on's I have ever had the misfortune to meet ( Oh and I have met them on several occasions) The sooner we pack them off to the funny farm the better.......... The only thing Charles is good for is for making into caricature can openers where his nose will come in handy.......

F16_Neo
02-03-2007, 01:35 PM
SWE here, always admiring ppl speaking more languages than 2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

NagaSadow84
02-03-2007, 02:38 PM
Deutsch. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Waldo.Pepper
02-03-2007, 02:40 PM
Good thread. I am delighted to learn how cosmopolitan our little gang is.

TheGozr
02-03-2007, 02:54 PM
English is my third language.

France

joeap
02-03-2007, 03:07 PM
English my native tongue, French then Greek. Studied some Russian and have picked up some German (at least can read and understand some) living in Europe the last decade. Playing war games / sims helps a bit too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

muchaclopiec
02-03-2007, 03:21 PM
Im English , but after living in Sydney for a while speak `strain

pielkop
02-03-2007, 03:24 PM
Nope first language is Afrikaans ,but i live in the U.S now so i hardly ever use it

Pirschjaeger
02-03-2007, 07:02 PM
I misread the title as "are you a naked English speaker?" and thought to myself "hey, a thread about me!". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Yes, I'm a native English speaker. Coincidentally, English is my first language too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Then German, Chinese, Arabic, and French.

A few years ago I was at a McDonalds in Beijing. An obvious westerner came in with a bycycle that folded up really small. I wanted to ask about his bike so my first question was "Excuse me. Do you speak English?"

In a familiar southern drawl he replied "Well, actually I speak Murrican." Naturally I chuckled.

After a while he asked what I did for a living. I told him I teach Canadian. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I used to work with some British and Americans who constantly argued over who spoke "actual" English. I often referred to them as "English speaking Natives" or "twitterpated gits". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Truth be told, the closest thing to "real English" is Flemish and a couple lesser known Dutch dialects. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Pirschjaeger
02-03-2007, 07:05 PM
AAAAHHHHH! They've changed the sig size regulations! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Used to be 500x200. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Monterey13
02-03-2007, 07:10 PM
I speak hick and pervert. I also speak some other language after about a fifth of Jim Beam. Not sure what that one is, though.

I can be intellectual when I want to, but hick is so much easier. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Tully__
02-03-2007, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
AAAAHHHHH! They've changed the sig size regulations! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Used to be 500x200. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
Sorry Pirch... old regs were IL2 forums only. Ubi in their wisdom have made some universal rules and unfortunately for us have gone for tighter restriction. There's been a stick at the top of every Ubi forum for about a month making it public... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Tully__
02-03-2007, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by muchaclopiec:
Im English , but after living in Sydney for a while speak `strain
That's spelt "strine" actually, I should know as I speak it as a native.... but I can manage the "English" sub-dialect passably when required
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

muchaclopiec
02-03-2007, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by muchaclopiec:
Im English , but after living in Sydney for a while speak `strain
That's spelt "strine" actually, I should know as I speak it as a native.... but I can manage the "English" sub-dialect passably when required
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>fair dinkum cobber http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Pirschjaeger
02-04-2007, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by Tully__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
AAAAHHHHH! They've changed the sig size regulations! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Used to be 500x200. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
Sorry Pirch... old regs were IL2 forums only. Ubi in their wisdom have made some universal rules and unfortunately for us have gone for tighter restriction. There's been a stick at the top of every Ubi forum for about a month making it public... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh well, it was good while it lasted. Time to reinstall PS and get to work. It also goes to show you how often I glance up at the stickies. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

500x150 it is then. I accept the challenge. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

han freak solo
02-04-2007, 07:24 AM
I speak texafied american english and a wee bit of spanglish. Comprende?

Pirschjaeger
02-04-2007, 07:36 AM
The diversity and possibilities of English are what makes it interesting.

Flying_Nutcase
02-04-2007, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Monty_Thrud:
Yes, English is my first language, unless i've had copious amounts of Ale...God bless the Queen!

Well, you'd have to be with Monty in your name and a Mossie in yur sig. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I'm frum Noo Zuland where we loik fush'n chups on a Froiday noight. Just like the Brutush.

heywooood
02-04-2007, 02:56 PM
I speak nascar...ie: "atsa nascar ya got there."

kirk7312
02-04-2007, 06:09 PM
NO, English is my third language. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I always can not pass the test of English, when I was a student.

NSAdonis85
02-04-2007, 06:23 PM
My native language is Hungarian, then comes Serbian and English (altho I speak the last two a lot better than the first http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif )

Esel1964
02-04-2007, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
I speak texafied american english and a wee bit of spanglish. Comprende?

I too,speak Tejano,Texican,Tex-Mex;or Han's description,if you prefer.

BillyTheKid_22
02-04-2007, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by han freak solo:
I speak texafied american english and a wee bit of spanglish. Comprende?

I too,speak Tejano,Texican,Tex-Mex;or Han's description,if you prefer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Howdy!!~ I can mexico sign language!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I am really American Sign Language. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Blood_Splat
02-04-2007, 11:37 PM
I speak midwest/yankee english. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Esel1964
02-04-2007, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Esel1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by han freak solo:
I speak texafied american english and a wee bit of spanglish. Comprende?

I too,speak Tejano,Texican,Tex-Mex;or Han's description,if you prefer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Howdy!!~ ...I can mexico sign language!!!... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Billy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif,did you have any money riding on the game? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Gumtree
02-05-2007, 12:19 AM
I come from the sunburnt country and speak 'stralian.

Close to English but we shorten some of words, well actually we shorten all our words.

ViktorViktor
02-05-2007, 04:16 AM
Wait a second, the U.S. doesn't even have an official language, does it ? And 99% of U.S. Americans are non-natives.

So U.S. Americans are disqualified from replying to the language question ?

elephant_il2
02-05-2007, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I'm a Spaniard. I speak Spanish as a scholar and English like a dork. But I'm fluent in the language of physical love.

Change Spanish to Greek and that's me too...

fighter_966
02-05-2007, 10:24 AM
Finnish and English and also in somestage of my life i learned to speak Old English: Hwylc is
baes mihtig ofer middangeard baet he be alyse... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Uncle_Stranger
02-05-2007, 10:50 AM
NO, English is my third language.

crazyivan1970
02-05-2007, 10:53 AM
Nope, russian is my first http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

han freak solo
02-05-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by ViktorViktor:
Wait a second, the U.S. doesn't even have an official language, does it ? And 99% of U.S. Americans are non-natives.

" Main article: Languages in the United States

Although the United States has no official language at federal level, English is the de facto national language. In 2003, about 215 million, or 82%, of the population aged five years and older spoke only English at home.[99] Although the United States does not have an official language at the federal level, English is the most common language for daily interaction among both native and non-native speakers. Nowadays, more languages are used in daily life, such as for Spanish speakers who do not speak English. Knowledge of English is required of immigrants seeking naturalization. Some Americans advocate making English the official language, which is the law in twenty-seven states. Three states also grant official status to other languages alongside English: French in Louisiana, Hawaiian in Hawaii, and Spanish in New Mexico."

--- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States


So U.S. Americans are disqualified from replying to the language question ?

Uhhhh. Technicality? The American empire has certainly made it native to my people.

Also from Wiki ---------

Demographics of the United States

Population

Population 300,000,000
Population growth 0.59%
Undocumented immigrants 12,000,000
Citizens abroad 3,000,000 to 7,000,000

Ethnicity

Ethnicities w/ 1 million members 31
German-American 15.6%
African American 12.9%
Irish-American 10.8%
English-American 8.7%
Mexican American 6.5%
Italian-American 5.6%
Scandianvian-American 3.7%
Native American 2.8%

Race

White 74.67%
African American 12.12%
Asian and Pacific Islander 4.46%
Other 5.99%

Affluence

Persons w/ six figure incomes 5.63%
Top 10% of individuals $75,000
Households w/ six figure incomes 17.2%.
Top 10% of households $118,200.

Languages

English (only) 214.8 million
Spanish 29.7 million
Chinese 2.2 million
French incl. Creole 1.4 million
Tagalog 1.3 million
German 1.1 million
Vietnamese 1.1 million

SOURCE: US Department of Commerce

F0_Dark_P
02-05-2007, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by major_setback:
Yes. I'm English. But, we dislike being referred to as natives!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


I also speak a little Ikea: "Billy, plomb, klippan, solen". "Det fattas visst en sexkantskruv".

You never know.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Anyway Swedish is my native language, and just forget the speaking English part http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif



ps: major_setback IKEA furniture is quite good nowdays i put together a "Ivar" and there where no problems at all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

BrewsterPilot
02-05-2007, 12:19 PM
Nstan alla vra mbler r frn Ikea! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

BillyTheKid_22
02-05-2007, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
Yes. I'm English. But, we dislike being referred to as natives!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


I also speak a little Ikea: "Billy, plomb, klippan, solen". "Det fattas visst en sexkantskruv".

You never know.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Anyway Swedish is my native language, and just forget the speaking English part http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif



ps: major_setback IKEA furniture is quite good nowdays i put together a "Ivar" and there where no problems at all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif No plm !!! too bad!!!



http://www.deafblind.com/russima.jpg



Russia sign langugae!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

BillyTheKid_22
02-05-2007, 12:40 PM
http://www.deafblind.com/swedisma.gif



Swedish Sign langugae!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif I know!!!! hahahaha!!

BrewsterPilot
02-05-2007, 12:41 PM
Swedes... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

BillyTheKid_22
02-05-2007, 12:55 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d0/American_finger_alphabet_engraving.png



Amreican Sign language!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

BillyTheKid_22
02-05-2007, 01:10 PM
http://www.deafblind.com/alphabet.gif



Britian sign language!!!

BillyTheKid_22
02-05-2007, 01:45 PM
http://www.auslan.org.au/asset/mod/ASB_FS/LIB_Alphabets/Table_AUS.jpg



Australian Sign Language!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


www.deafnation.com/2007deaflympics (http://www.deafnation.com/2007deaflympics)

Pirschjaeger
02-05-2007, 05:09 PM
I was going to post some universal sign language but I decided it wasn't worth a ban. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Pirschjaeger
02-05-2007, 05:29 PM
I thought these were somewhat interesting.

North America (http://www.muturzikin.com/cartesusa/usa.htm)

Europa (http://www.muturzikin.com/carteseurope/europe.htm)

BillyTheKid_22
02-05-2007, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
I thought these were somewhat interesting.

North America (http://www.muturzikin.com/cartesusa/usa.htm)

Europa (http://www.muturzikin.com/carteseurope/europe.htm)



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I born in Hobbs, New Mexico ( MEXIKO BERRI)

Ares_336sqn
02-05-2007, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
I thought these were somewhat interesting.

North America (http://www.muturzikin.com/cartesusa/usa.htm)

Europa (http://www.muturzikin.com/carteseurope/europe.htm)

Hmm..Very inaccurate map. Where i live people do not speak my language it seems. Instead, they speak the language of another country.Either i do not get out much or i live in the twilight zone! And if this gross intentional "mistake" was made where i live and i know what language i speak, i wonder what other "mistakes" are out there.
Internet is not exactly a reliable source for such "hot" matters .

Pirschjaeger
02-05-2007, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Ares_336sqn:
Internet is not exactly a reliable source for such "hot" matters .

I agree 100%. It's like Wiki, I take it with a grain, or two, of salt.

Esel1964
02-06-2007, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
http://users.skynet.be/bk290425/DGNY/bazookasquirrel.gif



Wiki!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Pretty good eating,if cooked right... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

[]_---_[] KITT
02-06-2007, 02:25 AM
I'm not a native english speaker. Chinese Indonesian. Born, raised in Jakarta. Persecuted in Singapore. Still standing tall despite all. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Here's my last TOEFL score:

Reading: 650
Listening: 610
Structure: 530<-----
Total Score:597
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

If there were a speaking test it would have dropped to 300.

ViktorViktor
02-06-2007, 04:50 AM
Was that squirrel intended to sexy or am I a sick man ?
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Tully__
02-06-2007, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by ViktorViktor:
Was that squirrel intended to sexy or am I a sick man ?
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Yes...

BillyTheKid_22
02-06-2007, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by ViktorViktor:
Was that squirrel intended to sexy or am I a sick man ?
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I am Deaf!!! I am sorry!!! ME http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif!!! I say no gay!!!! i don't like gay!!! Picture off!!!

Jediteo
02-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Lived in Sweden almost all my life (born in japan with swedish parents). I consider myself to be bilingual, as I attend the International Baccalaurete, and study both Swedish and English as native languages (so called A1 languages). All of my education is in english (swedish from grades 1-9). Heading of the Britain to study this fall. Does shakespearian english count as a seperate language?

jermin122
02-06-2007, 06:56 PM
*文是我的母*,英*是我的第二* 。我还想再*一种,也许是德*。

Pirschjaeger
02-06-2007, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Jediteo:
Does shakespearian english count as a seperate language?

Shakespearian is only spoken in pubs half an hour after happy hour, but it's not mandatory. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

heywooood
02-06-2007, 07:31 PM
verily

Pirschjaeger
02-06-2007, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
I am Deaf!!!

Billy, are you really deaf?

The reason I ask is that I'm an ESL teacher and currently studying and focusing on the pathways used for listening and repeating a spoken word.

I teach in China. The majority of my students have been studing for 10+ years and still cannot speak. Chinese are just as intellegent as the rest of us but their study methods are terrible at best.

Basically, the pathway used to speak a written word is visual cortex/ Wernicke's area/ Broca's area/motor cortex in that order. This is the only pathway Chinese use when studying.

To repeat a spoken word the pathway is Audio cortex/ Wernicke's area/ Broca's area/motor cortex in that order. This is what the Chinese don't practice which results in a lack of ability to communicate.

When it comes to study the Chinese are quite lazy and only want the easy way. There is no easy way but there is the right way. They consider the right way to be too much work. I've been developing new methods for raising the listening level of students and have had amazing success straight across the board. But it's hard to find students willing to do even a little work.

To add to the difficulty, Chinese have issues with content. Things that are common knowledge to us are new to them, such as astronomy. You would be amazed at how little they know about planets, stars, and moons.

Back to my original question, are you really deaf? If so I'd like to start a private topic with you and ask you some questions, if you don't mind.

Fritz

BillyTheKid_22
02-06-2007, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BillyTheKid_22:
I am Deaf!!!

Billy, are you really deaf?

The reason I ask is that I'm an ESL teacher and currently studying and focusing on the pathways used for listening and repeating a spoken word.

I teach in China. The majority of my students have been studing for 10+ years and still cannot speak. Chinese are just as intellegent as the rest of us but their study methods are terrible at best.

Basically, the pathway used to speak a written word is visual cortex/ Wernicke's area/ Broca's area/motor cortex in that order. This is the only pathway Chinese use when studying.

To repeat a spoken word the pathway is Audio cortex/ Wernicke's area/ Broca's area/motor cortex in that order. This is what the Chinese don't practice which results in a lack of ability to communicate.

When it comes to study the Chinese are quite lazy and only want the easy way. There is no easy way but there is the right way. They consider the right way to be too much work. I've been developing new methods for raising the listening level of students and have had amazing success straight across the board. But it's hard to find students willing to do even a little work.

To add to the difficulty, Chinese have issues with content. Things that are common knowledge to us are new to them, such as astronomy. You would be amazed at how little they know about planets, stars, and moons.

Back to my original question, are you really deaf? If so I'd like to start a private topic with you and ask you some questions, if you don't mind.

Fritz </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


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I have my friend few Deaf people Mexico, Russia, Chinese, German, Kiev, Ukranie, Indian Some other Deaf people. Lots of fun and Cool!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


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Pirschjaeger
02-06-2007, 09:46 PM
Thanks for your openness Billy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'm not Chinese and know almost nothing of signing. But there is something that I'm am curious about. I'll explain before I ask.

What most people don't realize about audible language is the anticipation factor. We actually have a good idea of what the other person is about to say. We know, in our native tongue, what is about to be said 1/20th of a second before it's said. This is very important and the main difficulty for those who are learning a second language.

If a person knew all the vocabulary and grammar rules of a language before attempting to communicate, communication would be impossible. The missing factor would be the skill of anticipation. This is why second language speakers have such difficulty on the telephone. Face to face they can read the body language. Body language actually happens before the speech, therefore fascilitating anticipation.

So, I am curious. If you could only view a persons hands, not their face or body, would it become more difficult for you to understand?

Also, is American sign language grammatically the same or similar to spoken English?

Not judging you but I noticed you make the same grammar mistakes which tells me that it is very possible that sign language has a different grammar. It was my German friend's English grammar mistakes that taught me German proper grammar.

I also understand that if you were born deaf, you will never be able to speak audibly. This seems logical. But those who are deaf and can speak became deaf after they learnt to speak. Is this correct?

Fritz

BillyTheKid_22
02-06-2007, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Thanks for your openness Billy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I'm not Chinese and know almost nothing of signing. But there is something that I'm am curious about. I'll explain before I ask.

What most people don't realize about audible language is the anticipation factor. We actually have a good idea of what the other person is about to say. We know, in our native tongue, what is about to be said 1/20th of a second before it's said. This is very important and the main difficulty for those who are learning a second language.

If a person knew all the vocabulary and grammar rules of a language before attempting to communicate, communication would be impossible. The missing factor would be the skill of anticipation. This is why second language speakers have such difficulty on the telephone. Face to face they can read the body language. Body language actually happens before the speech, therefore fascilitating anticipation.

So, I am curious. If you could only view a persons hands, not their face or body, would it become more difficult for you to understand?

Also, is American sign language grammatically the same or similar to spoken English?

Not judging you but I noticed you make the same grammar mistakes which tells me that it is very possible that sign language has a different grammar. It was my German friend's English grammar mistakes that taught me German proper grammar.

I also understand that if you were born deaf, you will never be able to speak audibly. This seems logical. But those who are deaf and can speak became deaf after they learnt to speak. Is this correct?

Fritz


Welcome!!! cool! Eye and Speak with Sign Language!! I can little speak with Sign Language. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Pirschjaeger
02-06-2007, 10:40 PM
Hi Billy,

another forum member saw my questions and sent me a PT with this:

Inner Voice (http://www.discovery.com/area/skinnyon/skinnyon971128/skinnyon.html)

I found it very interesting and wanted to know your idea and opinion.

I have always believed that deaf people can hear voices and sounds inside but can't hear sounds from outside.

Very thought provoking.

Pirschjaeger
02-06-2007, 10:42 PM
TigerTalon,

I don't mean to hijack your thread, it wasn't my intention. If you want I will take this to private topics, no problem. Just say the word. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

F19_Orheim
02-07-2007, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Deedsundone:
From the country of IKEA. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Bookshelf Billy here!

tigertalon
02-07-2007, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
TigerTalon,

I don't mean to hijack your thread, it wasn't my intention. If you want I will take this to private topics, no problem. Just say the word. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Absolutely not mate, I'm enjoying the conversation! Carry on! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I was interested in the statistics and I think it cristalized up to now. I just wanted to know which of us here are more - natives or non-natives, it seemed pretty even to me before and it indeed is.

BillyTheKid_22
02-07-2007, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Hi Billy,

another forum member saw my questions and sent me a PT with this:

Inner Voice (http://www.discovery.com/area/skinnyon/skinnyon971128/skinnyon.html)

I found it very interesting and wanted to know your idea and opinion.

I have always believed that deaf people can hear voices and sounds inside but can't hear sounds from outside.

Very thought provoking.


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Ich las es!! Danke. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bremspropeller
02-07-2007, 10:40 AM
I'm a native German speaker.

English was my first foreign language. French was my second.

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BillyTheKid_22
02-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Howdy!! Pirschjaeger, Deaf Zone!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


www.deafzone.ch (http://www.deafzone.ch)



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USA is deaf people!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

VaporBlast
02-07-2007, 02:36 PM
I speek Quebecois, not the Frensh they use in France