PDA

View Full Version : Revised CRG: P11 and IAR **** in need of tips ****



neural_dream
09-11-2005, 03:50 PM
This is the 9th post in a series of topics on the Revised Cockpit Reference Guide that i am working on. It will contain all planes this time blah blah blah ... (go to previous 8 for the rest).
-----------------------------------------------
PZL P.11c (Poland, `39)

The P.11 of the Panstowe Zaklady Lotnicze was one of the best aircraft in the world when it first flew in 1931. By the time the Germans invaded Poland, however, the P.11c was woefully outclassed by the Messerschmitts. Still, the Polish pilots fought bravely, flew the aircraft to its limits and achieved considerable successes against the Luftwaffe. In total 175 P.11c were built.
Max. speed: 275km/h at sea level and 370km/h at 4500m. Stalling speed 120km/h.
Tips:
¦ Make sure you are in gunsight view (default: shift+f1). Otherwise the crosshair is misleading.
¦ The P.11c stalls at around 120km/h.
¦ It has fixed-pitch propeller.
Armament:
fuselage - 2x7.92mm PWU wz.33 (750rpg/45sec), wings - 2x7.92mm PWU wz.33 (350rpg/18sec).
-----------------------------------------------
IAR-80 (`40)

The IAR-80 was strongly based on the Polish PZL P.24, which was built under license in Romania before the war. It was a capable fighter, with excellent manoeuvrability and very good cockpit visibility. It performed quite well in the defensive role. In total around 200 were built.
Maximum speed: 485km/h at sea level and 555km/h at 6900m. Service Ceiling: 10500m.
Tips:
¦.
Armament:
IAR-80: wings - 4x7.62mm Browning FN (1000rpg/60sec)
--------------------------------------------
IAR-81 (`40)

The IAR-81 was the fighter-bomber version of the IAR-80. In the beginning they were supposed to be dive-bombers as an interim solution for the delay in the Stuka deliveries to Romania by the Germans. The IAR-81c had improved armament thanks to the delivery of the Mauser guns from Germany. During the campaign for Stalingrad the IAR-81 suffered heavy losses. In total around 200 of all variants were built.
Maximum speed: 480km/h at sea level and 545km/h at 7000m. Service Ceiling: 10500m.
Tips:
¦.
Armament:
IAR-81a: wings - 4x7.62mm Browning FN (1000rpg/60sec), wings - 2x13mm MG131(350rpg/25sec).
IAR-81c: wings - 4x7.62mm Browning FN (1000rpg/60sec), wings - 2x20mm MG151/20 (250rpg/20sec).
-------------------------------------------

neural_dream
09-11-2005, 03:50 PM
This is the 9th post in a series of topics on the Revised Cockpit Reference Guide that i am working on. It will contain all planes this time blah blah blah ... (go to previous 8 for the rest).
-----------------------------------------------
PZL P.11c (Poland, `39)

The P.11 of the Panstowe Zaklady Lotnicze was one of the best aircraft in the world when it first flew in 1931. By the time the Germans invaded Poland, however, the P.11c was woefully outclassed by the Messerschmitts. Still, the Polish pilots fought bravely, flew the aircraft to its limits and achieved considerable successes against the Luftwaffe. In total 175 P.11c were built.
Max. speed: 275km/h at sea level and 370km/h at 4500m. Stalling speed 120km/h.
Tips:
¦ Make sure you are in gunsight view (default: shift+f1). Otherwise the crosshair is misleading.
¦ The P.11c stalls at around 120km/h.
¦ It has fixed-pitch propeller.
Armament:
fuselage - 2x7.92mm PWU wz.33 (750rpg/45sec), wings - 2x7.92mm PWU wz.33 (350rpg/18sec).
-----------------------------------------------
IAR-80 (`40)

The IAR-80 was strongly based on the Polish PZL P.24, which was built under license in Romania before the war. It was a capable fighter, with excellent manoeuvrability and very good cockpit visibility. It performed quite well in the defensive role. In total around 200 were built.
Maximum speed: 485km/h at sea level and 555km/h at 6900m. Service Ceiling: 10500m.
Tips:
¦.
Armament:
IAR-80: wings - 4x7.62mm Browning FN (1000rpg/60sec)
--------------------------------------------
IAR-81 (`40)

The IAR-81 was the fighter-bomber version of the IAR-80. In the beginning they were supposed to be dive-bombers as an interim solution for the delay in the Stuka deliveries to Romania by the Germans. The IAR-81c had improved armament thanks to the delivery of the Mauser guns from Germany. During the campaign for Stalingrad the IAR-81 suffered heavy losses. In total around 200 of all variants were built.
Maximum speed: 480km/h at sea level and 545km/h at 7000m. Service Ceiling: 10500m.
Tips:
¦.
Armament:
IAR-81a: wings - 4x7.62mm Browning FN (1000rpg/60sec), wings - 2x13mm MG131(350rpg/25sec).
IAR-81c: wings - 4x7.62mm Browning FN (1000rpg/60sec), wings - 2x20mm MG151/20 (250rpg/20sec).
-------------------------------------------

neural_dream
09-11-2005, 03:52 PM
In a few minutes the german jets.

The previous posts:
8. P40, P39, P63: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m...341014153#3341014153
7. Bf109, Bf110: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/5031062053
6. Ki84, Ki100: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/9451054943
5. I16, I153, I185: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/2921071943
4. Stukas,He111: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/3011097843
3. La5,La7: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/9311023843
2. CR42,G50: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/5971000843
1. Ki43,61: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/7311047743

D13th_Toppy
09-11-2005, 05:18 PM
if it helps anyhow,here is the table with all the types and performnances (in real life):
http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/1658/dsc027976bx.jpg

the table says:
Tipul=type
seria de fabricatie=production number
misiunea=mission (in here it means role. prot=prototype/Bopi=dive bomber/ v=fighter)
anvergura=wing span
lungime=lenght
inatime=height
suprafata portanta = lift surface (notn sure i got the right term.. i think it reffers to winglift)
greutate gol = empty weight
greutate maxima = max weight
greutate maxima -v- = max weight for fighter variant
greutate maxima -bopi- = max weight for jabo version
greutate maxima -cu rez sup- = max weight with droptanks
plafon practic = ceiling
timp de urcare la 5000m -v- climbing time to 5000m for fighter version
timp de urcare la 5000m -bopi- climbing time to 5000m for jabo version
viteza max la 5000m -v- max speed at 5000m for fighter version
viteza max la 5000m -bopi- max speed at 5000m for jabo version
viteza max la 5000m -cu rez sup- max spoeed at 5000m with droptanks
viteza minima = minum speed
viteza aterizare = landing speed
rulaj la decolare -v- = takeoff run (in meters) for fighter version
rulaj la decolare -bopi- = takeoff (in meters) for jabo version ( i suppose it also includes a 225kg/250kg bomb)
rulaj la aterizare= landing run
autonomie -v- = autonomy for fighter version
autonomie -bopi- = autonomy for jabo version
autonomie -cu rez-sup = autonomy with droptanks
armament initial = initial weaponry (some planes were also modified in the fieled or after reparations)


here is the air force order for planes:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8171/dsc027986gb.jpg
translation:
comenzi de avioane = aircraft orders
contract comanda = order contract
lansatoare=bomb racks (2+1 means 2 wingracks -also used for droptanks on certain planes- and 1 central bombrack)
Bopi=jabo
mauser = Mg-151/20
Ikaria = Mg-FF produced under licence

also if interested here is the planes repartition in units:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9412/dsc027994nn.jpg

i also have the table with the versions proposed for rearming, and the modifications, and the list with all the airkills achieved by the IAR-8x series... so if you need them... but it's 02:17 here.. and i need some sleep...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

neural_dream
09-12-2005, 08:12 AM
great stuff. Maybe not very suitable for a compact guide like this one, but perfect for the wiki guide of airwarfare: http://airwarfare.com/mediawiki-1.4.5/index.php?title=Main_Page