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bunkerratt
09-22-2010, 03:54 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/201...britain_titanic_book (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100922/lf_nm_life/us_britain_titanic_book)

Kaleun1961
09-22-2010, 04:18 PM
BR,what in your opinion is the crock; the part about the steering error or the part about the ship sinking because they sailed on? I've sent the article to a friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about these things as he is a retired ship's captain and Welland Canal pilot.

bunkerratt
09-22-2010, 05:37 PM
well i think it's nothing but a very cheap ploy to sell a book ...the "steering issue for ships early in the century is fairly well known..well if your into ships and history it is ..you know i dive wrecks ..and trying to find a "old" wreck using the log books if you have them one has to take into account the issue in question...or you end up "miles" off the track...

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/boxco000.htm



as for the steaming on and "pushing" the water
into her... how far did she go after the strike? lets ask how long does it take to stop a huge liner going ahead full?

i fully belive this comes on the heels of the latest survey of the debris field's
as always the "enlisted is blamed for the mess...who gave the command to change the helm?
an officer..who gave the order to run full ahead?..lets put the cause of the deaths on the bottom line the ship was designed to carry more life boats but the bean counters said they could save money only putting the number "required" on her as well as the higher up's saying more life boats would spoil her looks also in question is the fact that she left port without optics for the lookouts and other posts.as for causeing the line to go bankrupt?..i don't think so ..the lines actually made little money off the rich folks..at the time almost lines in service made huge profits from the 3rd class and steerage tickets.if one looks at the loss of life it's almost all of the 3rd class that died
what caused the huge loss of life? trying to save a dam dollar or pound...
thats the facts as i have read over the years
lets not forget the expansion joint failure ..white star changed that part of the blueprints on her sisters
sorry if iv'e gone on about this .

Kaleun1961
09-22-2010, 06:29 PM
Not at all, BR. I've heard of the steering issue as well. I agree, bottom line, it was officers who caused the loss as well as design defects. They were so interested in setting a speed record that they ignored the iceberg warnings. Hubris and all that.

MartiniMik
09-23-2010, 05:03 AM
Kaleun,
Please make sure to post your friend's feelings on the issue. I too read the article with interest and would like further insights as to its credibility.

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Kaleun1961
09-23-2010, 10:58 AM
I sent him the link last night but he is having computer problems; he has been unable to open any attachments I have sent him and I have no clue what the problem is. I had to go to his house one time to clear up a spyware infestation. It may be something as simple as security settings but he lives over an hour away so it's not an easy drive to work on it. I'll be seeing him on Sunday so I'll ask him then. I know in the past he has railed against the careless attitude with which the ship was operated and I suspect he will still be of the same opinion.