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han freak solo
12-06-2005, 09:51 AM
This guy has some fun times in his retirement. Lucky bastid!

Check out the bullet resistant "glass".
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot6.htm

Shooting sand boxes.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot7.htm

And the lock shooting attempts.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot5.htm

Home page.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/index.htm

Lessons learned:
1. It's still fun to shoot stuff.

T_O_A_D
12-06-2005, 10:01 AM
Good stuff, been even better in film.

The 12 guage slug suprizes me not. It has alot of mass, and its not built to expand like an normal rifle or pistol round. This is for shooting the glass.

Now the sandboxes, well he should of shot them with a Bow and Arrow. For some reason Sand dosen't slow on of them down like it does a bullet. I didn't like how his target, and direction of fire was facing the road either. Its probably not a through road, and only goes to the backstop, but it just looks unerving.

han freak solo
12-06-2005, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
Now the sandboxes, well he should of shot them with a Bow and Arrow. For some reason Sand dosen't slow on of them down like it does a bullet.

Like walking through water or running through it, huh?

Saunders1953
12-06-2005, 10:17 AM
Heeeyyy...wait a sec. Mods get blue text? Cool.

T_O_A_D
12-06-2005, 10:24 AM
Yep there is something to be said, about heavy mass plowing its way through something. Short range heavy object do more than long range fast light objects do at close ranges.

Semi truck at 5 mile a hour runs over you, Ouch your dead.

Ford Raner 5 mile an hour runs over you. Ouch again.

But you might survive.




Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
Now the sandboxes, well he should of shot them with a Bow and Arrow. For some reason Sand dosen't slow on of them down like it does a bullet.

Like walking through water or running through it, huh? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

T_O_A_D
12-06-2005, 10:28 AM
Go find that thread tilted I've decided (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4691026973/r/8221004083#8221004083), and see what started the color change. hehehehe


Originally posted by Saunders1953:
Heeeyyy...wait a sec. Mods get blue text? Cool.

Estocade85
12-06-2005, 10:36 AM
"Then, the favorite weapon of the "other side", the 7.62 X 39 AK."

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

peterm1
12-06-2005, 12:59 PM
Does anyone watch the series "Mythbusters"? Saw an episode recently in which they fired everything from pistol rounds up to and including .50 cal rounds into water to test the theory that being under water would save you from being shot. Seems they were right at least in part. Big heavy slow rounds like shotgun slugs penetrated further than modern high speed rounds. Every supersonic round, including the 50 disintigrated into tiny pieces on striking the water. I once saw something similar as a kid. I had a .22 and some .22 high velocity rounds and a few .22 sub sonic rounds which I fired into the end grain of some pine softwood. Every time the slower moving sub sonic rounds penetrated further and the high velocity rounds disintegrated more within an inch or so of penetrating. Weird.

han freak solo
12-06-2005, 01:16 PM
Yeah, I love that show.

I think Estocade was in on the thread a while back with underwater firearms. His sig is one of those projectiles, right?

ploughman
12-06-2005, 01:32 PM
That's great. Tonnes of fun flimisly wrapped up in the guise of 'research.' Every gun I've ever shot has made me smile like a freakin maniac (well not the .50 cal, that scared the sheet out of me) normal guns are more fun than a barrel full of stoats.

I once had to fit out a 'portakabin' (portable building, generally on the back of a big lorry) with a bullet proof internal partition despite telling the customer that, if they wanted to, any gunman could just step outside and shoot the occupants through the 2mm steel exterior wall. By the end of it the internal partition was going to be so heavy that any attempt to move the building would have resulted in the bullet proof screen falling clean through the floor, bit of a bummer but I learned alot about bullet proof screens though.

han freak solo
12-06-2005, 01:53 PM
"Lessons learned:

1. Shooting stuff is fun.

2. It's still fun to shoot stuff.

3. Shooting stuff is fun.

4. Shooting stuff is fun!

5. And, as always, shooting stuff is fun.

6. The sun was shining, it was a lovely day, and it was fun shooting stuff.

7. Shooting stuff is fun.

8. It's still fun to shoot stuff.

9. It was 70 degrees, the sun was shining, it was fun shooting stuff, and this was better than the best day I ever spent at work.

10. And, to keep everybody happy, shooting stuff is Fun.

11. Besides, shooting stuff is fun."

Exactly.

Waldo.Pepper
12-06-2005, 01:57 PM
That was good thanks. I really liked the padlocks.

ploughman
12-06-2005, 02:13 PM
I take back what I said about it fun thinly disguised as research, that bit on the sand boxes was actually informative.

1. It's fun to shoot stuff.

Enforcer572005
12-06-2005, 08:04 PM
yeah, there are all sorts of gun myths that the media in general and the nutjob writers of "Di ck Tracy" have fostered on the world. (cant believe this thing censored that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Eg:
1. that ANY pistol round in existance will penetrate an engine block (detective Tracy always shot the engine blocks out wiht a .357 magnum-usually from one of those hover car thingies, also a myth of similiar proportions).

2. Shooting a gas tank with conventional ammo makes it blow up or ignite. (Go ahead, try it...youll wind up wiht a leaking fuel container).

3. That there is such a thing as "bullet proof vests". (there are types of body armor of varied levels of protection, but nothing is "bullet proof").

4. Glock handguns are made out of plastic and will make it through metal detectors.(the slide is heavy steal, and any detector that would allow that thing thru would let an M-2 .50 cal through.)

5. Hollow point bullets are "dum dum" bullets. (the dum dum was in inovation used by british soldiers at Dum Dum India to stop hopped up religious fanatics from disembowling them-they filed the tip of the jacket off their .303 bullets and this allowed the bullet to expand or tumble/fragment rather than pass through the target. Hollow points pretty much are designed to do the same thing, but are cast that way),

6. It takes 1000 .50 cal bullets to shoot down a Luftwaffe fighter plane. (Only a misguided flight sim programer thats been in the vodka supply believes that).

RedDeth
12-06-2005, 08:55 PM
im curious to see the penetrating power of 12 guage buck vs my yugoslavian SKS....

i will test this on the walls of my apartment...

i shall test and return with pics....

Estocade85
12-06-2005, 08:58 PM
Ah maybe, I don't remember posting in it. My sig is a picture of a fired depleted uramium shell during the separation of the DU penetrator and the aluminum sabot. It's not taken under water AFAIK http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

wayno7777
12-06-2005, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Enforcer572005:



Hey, Enforcer, I don't see any F-86 in your sig http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif....

BSS_Goat
12-07-2005, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by RedDeth:
im curious to see the penetrating power of 12 guage buck vs my yugoslavian SKS....

i will test this on the walls of my apartment...

i shall test and return with pics....


WELL.........how did it go?

T_O_A_D
12-07-2005, 08:05 AM
He probably shot his Bathroom wall. Unlucky for him his 1940's steel tub, sent them back too him, and he has sufford a RedDeath.


Originally posted by BSS_Goat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RedDeth:
im curious to see the penetrating power of 12 guage buck vs my yugoslavian SKS....

i will test this on the walls of my apartment...

i shall test and return with pics....


WELL.........how did it go? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

han freak solo
12-07-2005, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Estocade85:
Ah maybe, I don't remember posting in it. My sig is a picture of a fired depleted uramium shell during the separation of the DU penetrator and the aluminum sabot. It's not taken under water AFAIK http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Oh. Cool. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

polak5
12-08-2005, 02:01 AM
Speaking of mythbusters, i liked the episode when they wanted to test out the theory that taking cover behind a car would save ur life.
I just luv it when they tear s#!t up in that show http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

han freak solo
12-08-2005, 01:39 PM
They have the coolest job on that show.

I remember another "shooter" episode where they tried out bullet resistant "glass". Awesome, awesome show!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Viper2005_
12-08-2005, 03:43 PM
Now the sandboxes, well he should of shot them with a Bow and Arrow. For some reason Sand dosen't slow on of them down like it does a bullet. I didn't like how his target, and direction of fire was facing the road either. Its probably not a through road, and only goes to the backstop, but it just looks unerving.

Arrows have much more favourable fineness ratios* than bullets, a higher mass and a lower velocity.

They tend to have a higher ballistic coefficient than most pistol rounds.

In fact, an English Longbow delivers an arrow with more energy than the round spat out by a Browning High Power.

Historically, firearms were used instead of longbows not because they were more effective but because:

i) It's easier to train a conscript army to shoot a firearm than a bow

ii) They scare the horses

In a fight between equal numbers of civil war era Roundheads and ~1415 vintage Longbowmen I'd back the Longbows all day.

*In fact, for penetration the basic arrow type design is almost unbeatable - hence the modern AP/DS rounds as seen in Estocade85's sig. You need the fins to attain directional stability at high fineness ratios...