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taly01
11-01-2004, 09:58 PM
I know many people like seeing a new plane version added but it doesn't really mean much when most types are already in the game.

I would like to see continued improvement of the AI and campaign as this is what really makes the game fun.

1) Better Dissimliar Air Combat tactic of AI. ie. The AI 109E/P40 should not turnfight vs I-16/Zero ( at least on mid->high skill ) **The old Aces of Pacific/Europe was good at this, especially for the Ace defined pilots.

2) More varied moves for AI pilots **1942 Pacific Air War had some cool moves that the AI would sometimes use that made you go WOW!

3) Better AI flight management, ie not sending a whole squadron from 15000ft to 1000ft to attack a lone enemy.

Mc_Wolf
11-01-2004, 10:36 PM
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I also think so. For certain theatre, we already have enough aircrafts. WE need pay more attention on the details of the game.

clint-ruin
11-01-2004, 10:47 PM
There is some interesting new behaviour to the AI, you just need to look closer. I think they're really pushing towards the absolute edge of their AI system for PF, though, given its age and that there hasn't been any kind of lowlevel rewrite or redesign since 2000.

Just for instance - think of how many planes in FB we have. Now think of how many interactions those planes can have with each other. Now think how that changes given the different e retention/turn/speed/critical alt/dive characteristics of all those planes. Seems like an awful lot to dig into and hand tune.

Philipscdrw
11-02-2004, 05:59 AM
It's old now isn't it? My my, they do grow up so fast these days!

Luftcaca
11-02-2004, 09:49 AM
Long have I stood high and proud in my crusade to rework the AI and make it better, but one day I realised that it wouldnt change and the we beter live with it....but NOW god forgive me but I think the AI is BETTER with PF! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

well at least IN PF's campaigns...sheesh it just seems to me that the AI CAN finally make deflection angles...and that it is more agressive and fights better when teamed with another friendly plane...or maybe Im just thinking and seeing stuff cuz Im always terribly outnumbered in my IJA campaign...

and also, for some reason, I find the Gustavs to be pretty good lately in my Russian Campaign (Kuban 43)

BUT

the AI still sufferes from terrible unawareness when engaged far from their combat waypoint, Zeros included.

So far 50% or more of the Zeros Ive shot down with my Wildcat havent even fought... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

SeaFireLIV
11-02-2004, 09:59 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Luftcaca:
Long have I stood high and proud in my crusade to rework the AI and make it better, but one day I realised that it wouldnt change and the we beter live with it....but NOW god forgive me but I think the AI is BETTER with PF! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[QUOTE]

Never thought I`d see the day. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sapre
11-02-2004, 10:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by taly01:
I know many people like seeing a new plane version added but it doesn't really mean much when most types are already in the game.

I would like to see continued improvement of the AI and campaign as this is what really makes the game fun.

1) Better Dissimliar Air Combat tactic of AI. ie. The AI 109E/P40 should not turnfight vs I-16/Zero ( at least on mid->high skill ) **The old Aces of Pacific/Europe was good at this, especially for the Ace defined pilots.

2) More varied moves for AI pilots **1942 Pacific Air War had some cool moves that the AI would sometimes use that made you go WOW!

3) Better AI flight management, ie not sending a whole squadron from 15000ft to 1000ft to attack a lone enemy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I really do think so too.
I got sick and tired seeing shoting down 4 airplane's that doesn't even try to evade.
I really do hope that 1 of the "feature we coudn't ready it for the release" includes the new AI.