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raaaid
04-13-2008, 09:49 PM
see this query on google and notice how i ask to include ALL WORDS and what do i get

http://www.google.es/search?hl=es&q=update%2Bgame%2Bmotorola%2Bw377&meta=

not a single result matching all words, yeah but i get 2000 pages selling me **** i dont want

well we live in a free world, ive been last 10 hours trying to get a chess game for my motorola, well is not posible, id pay up to 10 euro for it but is unavalaible, though millions would like to have it and would pay for it


well free enterprise is dead the comunist won the game they decide what you see and buy when you use any search engine

Col.BBQ
04-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Try putting "Chess Game" into your search field.

Cajun76
04-13-2008, 11:36 PM
Ever heard of "Operator Error"?

I searched for "motorola chess w377"

and got http://www.mobilerated.com/motorola-w377-games.html

I'll even narrow it down: http://www.mobilerated.com/chess-1878.html

What do I know? I'm stupid....

zardozid
04-14-2008, 12:20 AM
You are right...they do think we are all stupid. I'm sure that they assumed that some idiot looking for a chess game for a Motorola would use words like "chess game" and "Motorola"...


Frigg'in Idiots!!!! (http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=K4H&q=chess+game+motorola+&btnG=Search)

raaaid
04-14-2008, 05:31 AM
thanks guys but its more difficult than that

my point is i want ALL 4 words to be searched

but it doesnt the dumb thing doesnt give me a single hit in which it includes ALL 4 hits

before it used to but not anymore, as we are all dumb we dont even realize

i wonder is it the fluiorine in water and lead in air or is it natural what makes let tread on us

if you show me a search engine which searches ALL 4 words ill believe theres still freedom of enterprise, google not, yahoo not

skarden
04-14-2008, 05:48 AM
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9730/smileyemoticonstextemotgr0.gif

Seriously Raaid,you need to try a little harder sometimes

raaaid
04-14-2008, 05:59 AM
ill explain better:

this free games for mobiles sites offer you java games, but motorola, at least my phone doesnt let you load this files, you have to change the flash of the phone

seems they dont want you to play for free, and they dont sell you games that make you think like chess, they sell you shootem up so you join the americas army

now if i use google or yahoo and search for ALL 4 words it wont work it will show me what they want

when it started search engines searched for ALL words if you wanted them to but not anymore

havent you seen my link i clearly search for all 4 words and it gives me 2000 hits of which none includes all 4 words, its all bull

to me seems simple, eveytime less freedom we live in the brutal dictatorship of money and corporations deciding how many children we have

MalaKa911
04-14-2008, 07:13 AM
Who's that girl in your sig raaaid?
Looks like one of the girls from Charmed.

raaaid
04-14-2008, 07:27 AM
yep thats it, rose mcgowen i watch charmed just to see this awesome girl

wouldnt be cool that magic was true?

SeaFireLIV
04-14-2008, 09:14 AM
That sig is the one constant of raaid that shows he aint all that nuts...

Beware the day that sig vanishes....

AKA_TAGERT
04-14-2008, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by zardozid:
You are right...they do think we are all stupid. I'm sure that they assumed that some idiot looking for a chess game for a Motorola would use words like "chess game" and "Motorola"...
Checkmate! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Outlaw---
04-14-2008, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
not a single result matching all words, yeah but i get 2000 pages selling me **** i dont want


Very first hit...

www.filebuzz.com/findsoftware/Motorola_W377_Usb_Driver_software/1.html (http://www.filebuzz.com/findsoftware/Motorola_W377_Usb_Driver_software/1.html)

has ALL 4 WORDS.

End of story.

--Outlaw.

raaaid
04-14-2008, 11:15 AM
do you realize that your link of the 200 results none include the searched words

its a link that cheats you into think you found what you were searching for

ive tried changing the drivers but no succes at all

after spending 12 hours searching on how to get a chess game for my motorola i give up, when its time ill buy a phone with chess

Outlaw---
04-14-2008, 11:29 AM
The first hit contains all 4 words. This is a fact that can't be disputed. It may not be a page you find useful, BUT IT CONTAINS ALL 4 WORDS.

End of story.

--Outlaw.

raaaid
04-14-2008, 02:40 PM
yep and when kids search for micky mouse disney and go to a fake site with porn just because google gets paid just by showing this site with whichever words you used what

they took the avalability to seacrh ALL words, if people is happy with this thats what theyre gonna do next

Whirlin_merlin
04-14-2008, 03:02 PM
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=micky%2Bmouse%2Bdisney...ial&client=firefox-a (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=micky%2Bmouse%2Bdisney&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GBhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.giffficial&client=firefox-a)

I'm disapointed no porn, even though you spelt it wrong.

raaaid
04-14-2008, 03:07 PM
you may say what you want but the fact is that years ago you could search for all words and now you cant

not with a single search engine, and how is it call when theres a pact between main bussiness alike to harm the customer

i dont navigate anymore

luftluuver
04-14-2008, 04:17 PM
Jeez raaid, I typed in <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">motorola > chess games</span> and guess what?

Outlaw---
04-14-2008, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by raaaid:
...just because google gets paid...


The above statement is 100% junk.

You do not have to pay to have your site indexed by google. You can't increase your rank by paying. Ranking is a measure of many factors and if you maximize those factors on your site you will be ranked higher. If you know how to take advantage of that then you can get ranked very high while another more relevant site is ranked very low. ALL CRAWLING INDEXERS WORK THIS WAY AND ALWAYS HAVE.


On a related note...
The rankings have just changed such that the first hit no longer has all 4 words. This does NOT mean, however, that it did not have all 4 words the last time it was indexed. Neither google nor yahoo are real time, which is simply the way it is.

I had to go to the third listing (the second one had all words but "update") to get a solid hit on all 4 words...

http://www.il-2.info/raaaidscrap/google/raaaid.jpg

You may say what you want, but the fact is that I can no longer buy a brand new Apple computer with a Motorola 68000 series processor. That does not mean there was a conspiracy to "suppress" that computer. It simply means that things have changed.

No conspiracy, no end of free enterprise, no communist take over.

There is nothing stopping you from starting your own search engine and there are several non-crawler type search engines. You should use one of those instead of spouting more conspiracy theory drivel.

--Outlaw.

raaaid
04-14-2008, 05:48 PM
so what you are saying is that evry single hit of the 2000 include all 4 words?

if its so ill be glad to be wrong

anyway search engines changed because before all word were shown in front

anyway thanks a lot for your time outlaw appreciate it

Outlaw---
04-15-2008, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
so what you are saying is that evry single hit of the 2000 include all 4 words?


At the time they were indexed, yes. That does not mean that they do right now. For example, if you google, "at thunderbolt web solutions" the very first hit will be the default page of www.tbws.net (http://www.tbws.net) and it does, indeed, contain all those words.

I can remove those words from that page anytime I want. Google (and other search engines) will NOT pick up that change until they index the page again, which may take weeks. During those weeks, they will incorrectly show the link as having all the words.



Originally posted by raaaid:
anyway search engines changed because before all word were shown in front


As I said before, SEARCH ENGINES ARE NOT REAL TIME. There is no way for google to know when a web site owner changes the page. What you want is impossible. The search engines haven't changed, the web has changed.

Now, they have changed in the way they rank pages but not the way they fundamentally operate. The biggest "change" is that people know how to manipulate the search engines. There is an entire industry built on that (see http://www.web-positiongold.com/ for an example).

Now find something else to complain about.

--Outlaw.