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XyZspineZyX
10-14-2003, 09:33 PM
Alright, I am considering getting the patches for my relatively new FB, but have heard some complaints on these boards regarding them. I get the impression that they sometimes cause more problems than they fix.

Is that an accurate assesment, or is it worthwhile to get the patches for this game?

Any and all opinions would be appreciated, thanks.

XyZspineZyX
10-14-2003, 09:33 PM
Alright, I am considering getting the patches for my relatively new FB, but have heard some complaints on these boards regarding them. I get the impression that they sometimes cause more problems than they fix.

Is that an accurate assesment, or is it worthwhile to get the patches for this game?

Any and all opinions would be appreciated, thanks.

Buzz_25th
10-14-2003, 09:36 PM
You only need one patch. Get the 1.11 patch and never look back.

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XyZspineZyX
10-14-2003, 09:39 PM
get the 1.11 for out of the box. There are a mix of improvments an to some regressions. Short of my pet peeves I think it is overall an ok patch

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XyZspineZyX
10-14-2003, 10:08 PM
you need the patches for online play. Considering that the AI behavior has been dramatically improved for offline I'd get it even if you don't fly online.

ppl complaining about this game are loud, but hardly representative of the average FB owner.

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XyZspineZyX
10-14-2003, 10:32 PM
Get The Patch. If you don't like it, you can always go back. My power supply blew up in very spectacular fashion and it blew away my 1.1beta Patch which was my favorite although I am starting to like this one too.

Without it, you can't use I~16 at all unless you wanna sim an arcade rocket powered armoured tank. It was radically fixed in climb, damage, and energy bleed and is now my fave to use like I always wanted it to be. Fw-190 is now a usable fighter also. It was severely crippled in climb in original FB although it now has infinite instantaneous turn rate and can cut a square corner but it don't last long. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Oh and it rolls like a rifled bullet too. And we now have *much* longer lasting smoke pillars when a plane crashes and burns. I love this. Also the forest grafix is much faster now. They fixed something.

Also, the Fb109E outclimbs all other higher powered Fb109s in 1.0 even K4. In fact, Fb109E is the only 1.0 fighter able to climb with 1.0 I~16. They fixed that too.

Stop whining and get The Patch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 10:45 AM
Yea patch 1.1B is much better than 1.11 for me. In 1.11 FM and DM is mixed and go to "balanced game" not really simulations. People let's play with 1.1 B !!!

Read artical at these page:

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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 11:15 AM
1.1b has been most successful patch so far even though stupid auto-radiator bug exists. 1.11 is sadly needed when playing online. 1.11 has some adventages though; anyone can be ace if using P-39 or LaGG-3. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif (No offence to all long-time P-39 and LaGG -jockeys intended, but the new ones)

Recently made unofficial poll produced VERY polarized results; that tells much about quality of the latest patch. And one little "revealment" at vow-hq slipped from maker of IL-2 compare.

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 11:26 AM
What revealment exactly?

Tully__
10-15-2003, 11:32 AM
If you want to play online you'll probably need 1.11, otherwise it's up to you. If you're offline only, I recommend try them all and fly the one you like.

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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 11:42 AM
StG77_Fennec wrote:
- What revealment exactly?
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You can find it from ORR or fron the link Kwiatos provided. It was naturally widely explained and belittled afterwards in several forums/threads.

ORR topic was this http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=Olegmaddoxreadyroom&id=zuncb

No more post are needed in that thread though.

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 12:34 PM
im still p*ssed that they havent fixed the sound glitches, ive tried everything, hard acceleration options, different drivers, only thing i havent done is buy a new sound card... after all the sound wasnt rogered before.

its the greatest shame i find just because when i first played FB 1.0 i remember thinking 'wow, the engine idling, and sounds in general are SUCH an improvement from IL2' then i install the patch and for some reason they sound worse than the original game. irk. other than that the patched game is better than the 1.0 release.

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 12:40 PM
download 1.11, you will need it to fly online and will need to be at 1.11 to upgrade to 1.2 when its released.

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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 12:44 PM
Well, 1.11 is definitely better, but you may not like it if you`ve got too used to the out-of-the-box version.
The I-16 is killable. (Still one of my fave character planes, though).

The hurricane does not fly with anti-grav boosters any more, this cauised a lot of complaints at first cos people had gotten used to flying the invincible hurri that could take on even later war planes on its own.
It was fun but I knew it couldn`t be right.

I think Oleg made an `arcadish` version to sucker in new users `weathered` complaints from realistic simmers until the patch was out.
Anyway, in all departments 1.11 is better, except for sound. It still has some probs (you may be lucky and find non, but I still get loud bangs every now and then).

Seeing some noob enemy planes balk and spin cos you`ve scared them is worth it alone! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 12:53 PM
Patches are relatively ok. But problem is that it seems no one have clear idea how FM should look like. Its now like "ehmm we have found bug, lets fix it" next patch "Well we have fixed one bug but created 3 or more new".... And so on.. its bit confusing to learn all aircrafts again.
but If u patch from v1.00 its ok u will get better sim than v1.00 ufos /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 01:03 PM
Kwiatos wrote:
- Yea patch 1.1B is much better than 1.11 for me. In
- 1.11 FM and DM is mixed and go to "balanced game"
- not really simulations. People let's play with 1.1 B
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Uhm... - I have no problem outclimbing Russian planes in FWs or BFs. I'd say the 1.11 is an improvement overall no matter if you're offline or online.



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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 01:38 PM
Yea of course that you can overclimb russian planes on bf K-4 fox example but different is minimal compare K-4 to example La7. How about G-10 G-14 you are in big trouble when you try outclimb La7. How about F4 compare to red planes ast the same year of war. How about extra climb I-16 and Chaika fighter? How about DM of Fw 190 -flying tank he. The same I-16 DM? How about spin character of Cobra and I-16 example. How about G2 extra climb rate? How about energy bleed in manouvers some red plane? How about strange laggs online game (in 1.1B there aren't). Etc., Etc. , .............

Yea 1.11 is very good. But only for newbies http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

That's only my opinion.

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XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 06:00 PM
Hmmm...I installed the 1.11 patch no problem, but it seems to me the game has gotten a little choppier on my machine. Could I be imagining this?

My comp is soild, but not op-of-the-line, and was running FB 1.o like a dream, with the proper minor graphical adjustments. Could the patch be responsible?

XyZspineZyX
10-15-2003, 06:54 PM
Try Hunter82`s sound config adjustments- on technical forum or his Mudmovers. Just copy and paste.

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