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Sordino
01-08-2007, 05:36 PM
I can't seem to find a good balance between sensitive and unresponsive, not to mention I have no idea what all the different bars under each setting mean.

BillyTheKid_22
01-08-2007, 05:48 PM
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Sordino
01-08-2007, 06:17 PM
Not sure what you're trying to suggest there, unless you're saying that they have exact sensitivity settings for IL-2 nestled away some where on their site.

josephs1959
01-08-2007, 07:51 PM
I use the X-52 too. I just use the sliders in the game and dead band adjustments, which suits me just fine. You can use others suggestions as to where "they" like this or that but in the end its up to you how you want your plane to feel. I guess if you want too you can use the software that comes with the stick which in reality has many more options. But which means you'll be fiddling around with all those options just to get it right.

NjWordy
01-08-2007, 08:55 PM
I don't have an x-52, but I've owned an x-45, and I think this works well for any joystick (I'm now stuck with stick twist for rudder control - probably not as necessary if you have pedals): I like to go into the IL-2 hardware > input settings, then use the dropdown box to adjust the yaw (rudder) settings. It shows a group of sliders with a straight, diagonal line portrayed by them. You can think of this as a graph of sorts. This shows the relation between in-game yaw and the amount you have to move the stick. I would change this to more of a curve, so, reading the values below the sliders from left to right, something like: 1,2,4,7,12,19,30 etc. - something with a nice SMOOTH curve and little variation on the left side. Make sure it still goes all the way to 100 on the right side. This will give you a little less movement in game for the first few degrees of your hand / foot motion, which makes for more precise shots, but will still allow for maximum rudder deflection at the end of your control's travel. I haven't bothered much with pitch or roll curves, but you could certainly try. Set dead zones (dead band) for pitch, roll, and yaw to the minimum amount necessary - I believe it shows a small visualization of red and green boxes moving along an axis for each setting, one color is your joystick, the other is what IL-2 sees. You will be able to see how your curve for the rudder worked out (one box will initially lag behind the other on the axis), and you can also use this to properly set the dead zone so that the IL-2 box is centered when your stick FEELS centered to you, even if the computer believes it is not. I think with the newer saitek sticks it will auto-calibrate if you move the stick around to its extremes while playing, so make sure you do that or calibrate using the windows control panel before you change these settings.

Hope this helps, and if I missed something, corrections would be cool!
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Codex1971
01-09-2007, 05:04 AM
I love the X52 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

First I'd read up on stick adjustments and how they affect the game, go here. (http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/sticks.htm)

To adjust the sensitivity you need to do that in IL-2. Try this program IL2-JoyControl (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1021) it allows you to adjust the curves of your stick in a graphical environment, adjust inputs other than Role, Pitch and Yaw and you can even set your inputs higher than 100.

If you want a profile to start off with try Tully's (http://jennirivers.actewagl.net.au/fbx52.zip)

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MrQBerrt
01-10-2007, 09:37 AM
The X-52 is reported to have a curved output from the getgo. The game defaults to curving the input received from the joystick, so for us X-52ers, we're curving an already curved stick. This can be seen when flying on default stick settings by moving the stick bit by bit, and bit by bit, nothing happens, until suddenly, the next bit goes way too far and you over shot your intended consequence.

To eliminate this, some w/ X-52 have set all sliders at 100 for elevator and aileron. For me, I start at 50 on the left, then step up linearly until I'm at 100 on the right. An easy way to do this is in the "presets" box of the program Codex posted. Type in 50 for the "Min" and "100" for the max, then click "Linear" and the program will fill the rest in for you.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Vacillator
01-10-2007, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by MrQBerrt:

To eliminate this, some w/ X-52 have set all sliders at 100 for elevator and aileron.

I have mine set exactly so at 100% right across. For me, lower settings just felt kind of sloppy...

Having said that I would try the excellent tool mentioned above and experiment until you find what's best for your particular flying style and setup.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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stathem
01-10-2007, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by MrQBerrt:
The X-52 is reported to have a curved output from the getgo. The game defaults to curving the input received from the joystick, so for us X-52ers, we're curving an already curved stick. This can be seen when flying on default stick settings by moving the stick bit by bit, and bit by bit, nothing happens, until suddenly, the next bit goes way too far and you over shot your intended consequence.

To eliminate this, some w/ X-52 have set all sliders at 100 for elevator and aileron. For me, I start at 50 on the left, then step up linearly until I'm at 100 on the right. An easy way to do this is in the "presets" box of the program Codex posted. Type in 50 for the "Min" and "100" for the max, then click "Linear" and the program will fill the rest in for you.

I don't get much time to fly so only just over the last two nights got round to setting up my X-52 for the new inouts; I eventually got to exactly the conclusion (50-100) you just posted.

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voyager_663rd
01-14-2007, 07:34 PM
Just cleaning the dust off (with your finger!) that plastic washer is enough to get it sliding smooth again.

Putting vaseline on will allow dust to collect and stay put.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Mysticpuma2003
01-14-2007, 07:53 PM
Vacillator and MrQBerrt, care to post your conf.ini, mine looks like this;

[rts_joystick]
X=0 13 21 28 39 53 65 77 88 96 100 0
Y=0 22 28 37 45 54 65 77 88 97 100 0
Z=0 35 41 48 56 67 76 82 89 95 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=0
U=0 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 100 100 0
V=0 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 100 100 0
1X=0 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 100 100 0
1Y=0 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 100 100 0
1Z=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RZ=0 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 100 100 0
1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RX=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1RY=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0

and I'd be keen to try a couple of others out.

I can move my stick, from upright, so that the top has moved about 4cm before there is any input into the game, and as you can imagine...that's not much good!

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Tully__
01-15-2007, 02:28 AM
For IL2 1946 I haven't changed the default settings.

For most of the rest of the versions, see the Joysticks article link under my sig pic, it has my settings (the Author's) in the section on setting sensitivity.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Therion_Prime
01-15-2007, 03:21 AM
50 60 70 80 90 100 100 100 100 for pitch and roll.

I used to have all sliders at 100 before '46, but I had to adapt the settings because of the new joystick code in 4.07.